Quality of SPs gone down?

[texasjones]

Apparently the world consists of Canada and USA

Please provide examples of better cities, instead of ignoring my mention of Rome and Sydney. I could add London, Barcelona, Milan, Munich. I've been to them all, Toronto is still tops for me. I will give plenty of credit to Montreal as well, as I've never had a bad time their either. Canada in general is the best. You should be proud of that.

There are hubs that you might be thinking of where the price is super cheap and the women are abundant, but I might not be comfortable in those environments, so I can't compare as I haven't indulged.

 

[yomero5]

I disagree. In my 20 years of hobbying, the quality has remained much the same, except around 2001, very few girls would do BBBJ, now 99% of girls do BBBJ. And of course, the rate for HH has increased from about $100 to $160, but that's inflation.

 

[futbolplaya]

I respectfully disagree with the OP and would chalk most of his sentiments to rising costs and to a lesser extent, the advent of sugar baby sites and elimination of craigslist/backpage. You used to see legit amateurs and girls trying out SPing on those classified sites, now I feel like those girls end up on SA or even places like Tinder.

 

[Cardinal Fang]

Has anyone else noticed in the last year or so that the quality/attractiveness of SPs have gone considerably down hill? And rates continue to climb/remain high for even some questionable looking providers..I get it, beauty is subjective but let’s be honest here.

Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder. What you may think is not attractive others may find the opposite.

I'm curious about this statement of yours though. It could ALSO be said that the quality of the Hobbyist has gone down over the years. I've been on the boards for quite a while. More than I care to admit and during that time I've seen both escorts and hobbyist change. Sometimes for the good and sometimes for the worse. Goes both ways in my book.

 

[kherg007]

Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder. What you may think is not attractive others may find the opposite.

I'm curious about this statement of yours though. It could ALSO be said that the quality of the Hobbyist has gone down over the years. I've been on the boards for quite a while. More than I care to admit and during that time I've seen both escorts and hobbyist change. Sometimes for the good and sometimes for the worse. Goes both ways in my book.

+1. I know in my own case I've gone downhill, cuz for some reason every year I get older...LOL...not to mention weaker...grayer...gotta battle ear hair now, what's with that bullshit? Now get off my lawn!!

 

[Cardinal Fang]

+1. I know in my own case i've gone downhill, cuz for some reason every year i get older...lol...not to mention weaker...grayer...gotta battle ear hair now, what's with that bullshit? Now get off my lawn!!

preach!

 

[Fun For All]

Wrong. It's one of the best cities in the world.

Go to Vegas, NY, Chicago, LA, Miami, Rome, Sydney and dare to compare what you have in Toronto.

Spoiled, you're all so spoiled.

I would agree, there are many good looking SPs in the GTA area at a very reasonable rate...

 

[malata]

not really, a Star is born every time i drink milk. Some Stars light up the Milky Way more than others

 

[The "Bone" Ranger]

The first SP I ever saw was strikingly beautiful, the last SP I saw was as beautiful, if not more (13 years later), and I have seen all kinds in between so I would say "no."

 

[hedo rick]

Prices have definitely gone up.
Back in the day, $200 would get you an hour with just about any agency girl or independent.
Now you need to go to Montreal for those kind of rates, and even then, they're creeping up.

A $300 indy back then was for a A++ DDG, well reviewed, top service girl. Now the quality at that price point (and above even) has gone down significantly if you're not careful.

 

[explorerzip]

The common issue with these rate vs quality / attractiveness threads is that the latter are totally subjective. What one guy thinks is an attractive / quality girl is not the same as someone else. That's the very reason why girls have mixed reviews. Even if we compare girls that provide exactly the same acronyms at the same price, we would still have massive variability between then because of personal preference.

Secondly, no on would have the time or money to see enough girls to make any concrete judgments about rates vs looks or services. The only way you can judge that is to go see her for yourself.

Let's assume for a moment, that the OP actually wanted to get to the bottom of this issue. He would have to be willing to data mine ads for rates, services offered, during a certain period of time and do a statistical analysis. Looking at random ads, reviews or Twitter tells you nothing.

 

[Shooter75]

I think Toronto has some very beautiful and very enthusiastic Escorts. Can't speak to quality, being better, like looks wise, or service,10-15yrs ago as I wasn't around back then.
But some of the escorts I see are soo hot and sexy.
If your careful and do your research, like looking for good reviews,. You can avoid being taken advantage of and wasting your hard earned money. Don't go for anything under $200.00, just don't do it, why take the chance?

Find yourself about 5-10 escorts that you like and get along with. I'm talking about professional Escorts who take their job seriously, not crazy drugged out whore's Then keep your eyes open for new talent, get a half hour for a test drive lol. And if she's awesome ad her to your list of angels. I think it's a good idea to have a budget like $220.00-$250.00 range. That way you get more bang for your buck literally lol.

And if one of your favorites escorts ups her prices. Remember that the little porn star cutie pies never stop coming, you'll find a new favorite soon enough.
And try not to get emotionally and personally involved, your only dealings with the girl should be money and fucking. And pleasant conversation but that's it.

-Shooter75

 

[Platon]

I don't think that the quality has gone down overall but there is this trend: considerable number of girls with otherwise average skill and looks become or try to become twitter sensations and charge outrageous amounts of money. If you saw some of those girls before they became "famous" there is no way you are going to pay the $$$ they now want as your previous experience doesn't justify the cost.

There are also fewer agencies operating downtown which may create perception of reduced quality due to limited talent pool. Back in the day you had Roommates, Bonbons, Sassy Angels (under old management), High Society Girls (now outcall only with outrageous prices), Dream Makers. It was a lot more fun to hobby downtown. These days the escort scene little by little starts to reflect the overall atmosphere of Toronto - overpriced blob of concrete with limited variety. Although as some have rightly noted we are still doing ok compared to many places in the world.

 

[Micber]

have not hobbying long but quality is good compared to other countries (Dominican republic, South Korea,US). What I find difficult is the amount of fake ads/pics and scams. Reliability+quality=$$$ (you get what you pay for)

 

[lulupoo]

Toronto has never been a really great city for SP's. For that you need to go to Montreal.

And oilgas is right, some serious hotties at Allure and HFH

i've always felt you get better service going independent but perhaps I should really start thinking about agencies.

 

[TFZL1]

If the ones you’re seeing aren’t doing it for you, you need to find more better.

Lots of great ones on here. :happy:

 

[Frankfooter]

Wrong. It's one of the best cities in the world.

Go to Vegas, NY, Chicago, LA, Miami, Rome, Sydney and dare to compare what you have in Toronto.

Spoiled, you're all so spoiled.

Agreed, and across Canada only Montreal comes close.
Safe, easy and really great ladies.

 

[squeezer]

Lots of great agencies with good looking ladies at a good value still in Toronto. The more we support the agencies with good value and avoid the entitled princesses, the more agencies will come.

As one mentioned, stay away from the perceived Twitter stars. The ladies that want to date (to take more money with less sex), be taken out for 3 hours to only bang for 30 minutes of that $1000 fee.

There is never any need to pay more that $300 an hour, actually no need to ever pay more than $250 an hour if one is a smart and educated hobbyist.

 

[Shooter75]

Lots of great agencies with good looking ladies at a good value still in Toronto. The more we support the agencies with good value and avoid the entitled princesses, the more agencies will come.

As one mentioned, stay away from the perceived Twitter stars. The ladies that want to date (to take more money with less sex), be taken out for 3 hours to only bang for 30 minutes of that $1000 fee.

There is never any need to pay more that $300 an hour, actually no need to ever pay more than $250 an hour if one is a smart and educated hobbyist.

Very interesting squeezer, what you say of agencies and princesses. You should tell more of what you know. It would help guys with less experience avoid disappointment and loss of money.


-Shooter75

 

[wazup]

Long time hobbyist infrequent poster. Now before I begin I’ll aplogize in advance before all the white knight defenders crawl out and come roast me. Hoping to have more of an honest discussion here. Has anyone else noticed in the last year or so that the quality/attractiveness of SPs have gone considerably down hill? And rates continue to climb/remain high for even some questionable looking providers..I get it, beauty is subjective but let’s be honest here. Again, not meant to be a hurtful post I could very well be missing something completely as to where all those classically beautiful provides have gone since the beginning of the year..

Thanks for all your reviews over the years, much appreciated.