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Clearly fake news. Besides, it was the victims’ own fault. They should’ve had armed security and been carrying guns. Only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, folks! #thoughtsandprayers
 
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One love affair they just can't quit. Only country in the world where having a gun is considered normal.
 
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K Douglas

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There haven't been 307 mass shootings in 2018. Gun control advocacy group propaganda designed to stoke fear. The number of mass shootings is more like 20-25.
 
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K Douglas said:
There haven't been 307 mass shootings in 2018. Gun control advocacy group propaganda designed to stoke fear. The number of mass shootings is more like 20-25.
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I am not sure, but I think a shooting of more than one counts as "mass".

I am sure that it means shootings, not deaths.

I am 100% sure that KD is sooo far off it is laughable unless the bar for "mass" is 7 or 8. Hardly surprising but easily as laughable as anything else he has posted.
 
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K Douglas said:
There haven't been 307 mass shootings in 2018. Gun control advocacy group propaganda designed to stoke fear. The number of mass shootings is more like 20-25.
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Can't tell if serious, bot, or just an alt-right propoganda spreader?
 
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It's come to a point where we ask no one get shot in the USA? There are more guns in the USA then there are citizens.
 
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Well Tory is on again about banning guns in Toronto. That will put the fear into the gang bangers!!! Forget the jail sentences and all that other stuff, Tory will slap them with a hefty bylaw ticket !! How would that work? If you reside in the boundaries of Toronto, even if you have legally owned firearms, you would have to surrender them or move?
 
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kugel2 said:
Well Tory is on again about banning guns in Toronto. That will put the fear into the gang bangers!!! Forget the jail sentences and all that other stuff, Tory will slap them with a hefty bylaw ticket !! How would that work? If you reside in the boundaries of Toronto, even if you have legally owned firearms, you would have to surrender them or move?
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Tory is an idiot politician. He knows a gun ban wo t achieve a thing, he said so himself years ago. But now it's all about politics
 
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shack said:
I am not sure, but I think a shooting of more than one counts as "mass".

I am sure that it means shootings, not deaths.

I am 100% sure that KD is sooo far off it is laughable unless the bar for "mass" is 7 or 8. Hardly surprising but easily as laughable as anything else he has posted.
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The criteria for mass shootings used to be 4 or more deaths but then it morphed into 4 or more injured.
The United States' Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition, and defines a "public mass shooting" as one in which four or more people selected indiscriminately, not including the perpetrator, are killed, echoing the FBI definition of the term "mass murder"
I tend to use that definition but don't discern between whether the victim is killed or injured.

1. 4 or more people injured and/or killed
2. be in a public place
3. not related to another crime i.e. drug deal gone bad, armed robbery, gang activity

When you apply these criteria the number of mass shootings drops dramatically.
 
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K Douglas said:
The criteria for mass shootings used to be 4 or more deaths but then it morphed into 4 or more injured.
The United States' Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition, and defines a "public mass shooting" as one in which four or more people selected indiscriminately, not including the perpetrator, are killed, echoing the FBI definition of the term "mass murder"
I tend to use that definition but don't discern between whether the victim is killed or injured.

1. 4 or more people injured and/or killed
2. be in a public place
3. not related to another crime i.e. drug deal gone bad, armed robbery, gang activity

When you apply these criteria the number of mass shootings drops dramatically.
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The subject is mass shootings, not mass killings.

If you apply the criteria you stated, specifically "1. 4 or more people injured and/or killed" then the number 307 as of Nov. 7th. is correct. It's now 309.

The Wednesday night massacre at the Borderline Bar and Grill, which left 13 people dead, including the gunman, became the nation's latest mass shooting, according to data from the Gun Violence Archive, a not-for-profit organization that provides online public access to information about gun-related violence.

In all, 328 people died in those incidents, and 1,251 were injured, according to the data. The numbers include incidents in which four or more people were shot or killed, not including the shooters, according to the archive.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
 
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