You guys really pay that much?

[Knuckle Ball]

You clearly know nothing about my business model. I'm not worried one bit about a trickle effect. My rates are considered on the higher end in Durham. It still works for me. I meet and usually exceed my quota monthly. I often take months off from new clients. I don't need this as an income which is why I can dish back to the guys what they dish out first.

Which is what happened here. You want to have a respectful conversation, no problem. You want to start making judgmental generalizing sweeping statements and negatively labelling people, I'm going to show you how the same can be said for you. Which is exactly what I did in my first reply to you.

When you spoke maturely about it with Bone Ranger, I gave you the credit for that.

There is a difference in the tone of some of these posts and it is those whiney negative ones that get the pushback. Because I can push back when others can't.

I have repeatedly helped newbies on this board. I've PMed members I think could help a newbie who is jumping in head first, giving loads of personal info, paying really high rates, etc. I feel they don't know all the risks and get caught up in what they perceive the rewards are. So I am not averse to a discussion. But some of this is simply not discussion. It is whiny. It is complaining. It is bitching for the sake of bitching. So I call it out for what it is.

There is one thing in life that is always true and never changes:

Whenever somebody says, “It’s not about the money” you automatically know with absolute and complete certainty that: It’s about the money.

 

[Jasmine Raine]

There is one thing in life that is always true and never changes:

Whenever somebody says, “It’s not about the money” you automatically know with absolute and complete certainty that: It’s about the money.

I never said I wasn't in this business make money. I said I don't care about your so-called ”trickle-effect” LOL.

I like padding my retirement. I'm not going to lie. No need too. But if you think that I need this to pay my bills so I will shut up like a good little girl and ”respect” the men who ”pay my bills” you are out to lunch bud. Just because you are a guy on this board, doesn't mean you are MY client and I don't have to bow down to the opinions of the men here. I will call it as I see it and when I see whining, I say so.

There are ladies who can not stand up to the overzealous complainers, because they can't risk the possible backlash and hurt to their income. I don't have that problem. Money may be what I'm after but it is not something I rely on this industry to make.

So it's not about the money. Not in the picture you are trying to paint.

However, moving on past your games, and back to the topic at hand, essguy_ - you nailed it in the head. No need to say anything further.

Unless Mr. Ball - you feel the need to get the last word as some triumphant win of posting. I leave it with Y'all.

Laters

 

[The "Bone" Ranger]

Well said

I've said this before and will say the same again when this question comes up.
There is no direct correlation between rates, service or looks. There are many indy and agency SP's who charge hourly rates of $250-300 that are just as good looking, provide better service than others who are charging $350/hr +. This is not to say that there aren't SP's who charge $350/hr that are great SP's. There are also many SP's who advertise as courtesans and charge higher rates in this city, but truly lack the attitude, service, looks and professionalism.

And to anyone who has a problem with this question being asked, if you don't like the question that's your problem you can simply ignore threads like this, but to attempt to tell other posters to stay in their own lane or mind their own business, it shows your lack of professionalism.
This is an Escort Review Board and hobbyists can ask questions to your dismay.

 

[squeezer]

Since cars have come into this topic and Essguy, my first ever car was a Hyundai Excel! I still remember that POS but I loved it. I washed it, waxed it and thought I was a player driving around town winking at all the ladies.

Now that I'm an adult in June I decided to look into purchasing Mercedes-AMG. I was in meetings downtown so I stopped into Mercedes Downtown Toronto. Took it for a spin, loved it of course and chose color and options. I was given a price of $147,000.00. I thought to myself, "Squeeze, go check Mercedes Brampton." The weekend came and I strolled into the Brampton dealership. Lo and behold, the same car came in at 139,5 something. I decided to give Toronto a chance to up their game and on the Monday I stopped in. Told the salesmen that I found the same car for $135K, I know I lied. He asked me where and I told him Brampton. I ended up purchasing the car for 137K. Now you ask the moral of the story, WHY WOULD I PAY $147K for the same car I37K. It just doesn't make any sense.

Hot girl > Sex> Orgasm > Leave $250

Hot Girl> Sex> Orgasm > Leave $400

Really?? LOL.....

 

[explorerzip]

I’ve seen no evidence of these discussions changing anything one way or the other.

You see no evidence because there is none making the discussion pointless.

 

[explorerzip]

There is one thing in life that is always true and never changes:

Whenever somebody says, “It’s not about the money” you automatically know with absolute and complete certainty that: It’s about the money.

You should get someone to nominate you for Nobel prize for that amazing discovery.

 

[kkelso]

Since cars have come into this topic and Essguy, my first ever car was a Hyundai Excel! I still remember that POS but I loved it. I washed it, waxed it and thought I was a player driving around town winking at all the ladies.

Now that I'm an adult in June I decided to look into purchasing Mercedes-AMG. I was in meetings downtown so I stopped into Mercedes Downtown Toronto. Took it for a spin, loved it of course and chose color and options. I was given a price of $147,000.00. I thought to myself, "Squeeze, go check Mercedes Brampton." The weekend came and I strolled into the Brampton dealership. Lo and behold, the same car came in at 139,5 something. I decided to give Toronto a chance to up their game and on the Monday I stopped in. Told the salesmen that I found the same car for $135K, I know I lied. He asked me where and I told him Brampton. I ended up purchasing the car for 137K. Now you ask the moral of the story, WHY WOULD I PAY $147K for the same car I37K. It just doesn't make any sense.

Hot girl > Sex> Orgasm > Leave $250

Hot Girl> Sex> Orgasm > Leave $400

Really?? LOL.....

Now the thread should be "You guys really pay that much for a car??"

No way I'd be spending 100 sessions with my fav SP for a car

KK

 

[squeezer]

It doesnt matter if you started it lol. It is not your place to tell someone how much their time is worth, therefore, stay in your lane.

xoxo

I just can't stay in my own lane so I will apologize but I must say, it's not very nice to call your fellow provider's "trash" on Twitter for somewhat agreeing with some parts of this discussion.

Come on young lady, you're better than that, I have faith in you.

 

[tribunus]

The only chicks getting all bent out of shape in this thread are the fat ones.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

You should get someone to nominate you for Nobel prize for that amazing discovery.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

I never said I wasn't in this business make money. I said I don't care about your so-called ”trickle-effect” LOL.

I like padding my retirement. I'm not going to lie. No need too. But if you think that I need this to pay my bills so I will shut up like a good little girl and ”respect” the men who ”pay my bills” you are out to lunch bud. Just because you are a guy on this board, doesn't mean you are MY client and I don't have to bow down to the opinions of the men here. I will call it as I see it and when I see whining, I say so.

There are ladies who can not stand up to the overzealous complainers, because they can't risk the possible backlash and hurt to their income. I don't have that problem. Money may be what I'm after but it is not something I rely on this industry to make.

So it's not about the money. Not in the picture you are trying to paint.

However, moving on past your games, and back to the topic at hand, essguy_ - you nailed it in the head. No need to say anything further.

Unless Mr. Ball - you feel the need to get the last word as some triumphant win of posting. I leave it with Y'all.

Laters

All of the poor, oppressed, down-trodden $400/hr escorts out there undoubtedly appreciate your selfless efforts to advocate on their behalf.

:flypig:

 

[azeri99]

It's supply and demand, if guys are willing to pay what a girl is asking why should she lower her rates, it's not like they can do this forever, it's a short career for most, they have to make as much money as they can for as long as they can. The good ones can demand more, just like athletes, LeBron is going to earn more than some jobber on the bench

 

[doggystyle99]

I seriously don't know how many times this has to be talked about. Dude, if you don't like the rates then don't see her. If you really want to see her you will save up.
It's like going to McDonalds VS Burgers Priest. Both are going to be yummy, both are going to be satisfying, but one is three times as much. People still go to Burgers Priest and they are doing very well and people still go to McDonalds. Perhaps, like for my situation, you go to Burgers Priest because of they carry things that you can eat because you are on a specific, doctor ordered diet (I am keto and Burgers Priest carries Keto friendly foods....while McDonalds does not).

Whatever someones reasoning for seeing a provider is their business and not yours. Don't be bitter because these providers charging $400h+ be happy for them and their success.

Also, I don't think its fare to call someone a fool for spending their money the way they see fit. People could say that to you for paying to see providers when tinder is free. You are still spending money that you technically don't need to spend so does that make you a fool too?

Minding your own business/ staying in your own lane is always free and does wonders for your physical and mental health!!!

xoxo

Vio

Comparing it to McDonalds VS Burger Priest is not a correct comparison as McDonalds is an inferior quality of a product with inferior service and Burger Priest.
Not only is McDonalds product quality is inferior to Burger Priest, the taste is inferior to Burger Priest, also service is inferior to Burger Priest. So in that case you are getting what you pay for. Unless you are attempting to argue that all $250/hr SP's are inferior to $350/hr SP's and all $350/hr SP's are inferior to $500/hr SP in terms of Service, and looks. And that assessment would be completely false as there are many SP's who are just as good if not better at $250/hr than others who are at $350/hr +.

As I've said numerous times there is no direct correlation between SP rates, service or looks. There are many indy and agency SP's who charge hourly rates of $250-300 that are just as good looking, provide better service than others who are charging $350/hr +. This is not to say that there aren't SP's who charge $350/hr that are great SP's. There are also many SP's who advertise as courtesans and charge higher rates in this city, but truly lack the attitude, service, looks and professionalism.

And you telling other member to mind their own business and stay in their own lane shows your lack of professionalism.
This is an Escort Review Board and hobbyists can ask questions they see fit, if you don't like this topic, thread or any other thread you can simply ignore these threads, but yet here you are on this topic attempting to shame posters into not posting. And then head to Twitter to rant and complain about other SP's and hobbyists. That truly is a lack of professionalism.

 

[testing1]

Since cars have come into this topic and Essguy, my first ever car was a Hyundai Excel! I still remember that POS but I loved it. I washed it, waxed it and thought I was a player driving around town winking at all the ladies.

Now that I'm an adult in June I decided to look into purchasing Mercedes-AMG. I was in meetings downtown so I stopped into Mercedes Downtown Toronto. Took it for a spin, loved it of course and chose color and options. I was given a price of $147,000.00. I thought to myself, "Squeeze, go check Mercedes Brampton." The weekend came and I strolled into the Brampton dealership. Lo and behold, the same car came in at 139,5 something. I decided to give Toronto a chance to up their game and on the Monday I stopped in. Told the salesmen that I found the same car for $135K, I know I lied. He asked me where and I told him Brampton. I ended up purchasing the car for 137K. Now you ask the moral of the story, WHY WOULD I PAY $147K for the same car I37K. It just doesn't make any sense.

Hot girl > Sex> Orgasm > Leave $250

Hot Girl> Sex> Orgasm > Leave $400

Really?? LOL.....

You make the assumption that all girls are the same. Though I don't personally pay the higher prices I completely understand it for the experience. It is no different than paying for a more expensive bottle of wine because it is the one you want or for better sports tickets because you want to go instead of watching it on TV to save money that you don't need.

 

[explorerzip]

All of the poor, oppressed, down-trodden $400/hr escorts out there undoubtedly appreciate your selfless efforts to advocate on their behalf.

:flypig:

Just like those poor, oppressed, down-trodden guys that cannot afford the $400 escorts.

 

[oil&gas]

There are losers who are never able to get sex from
desirable women. They tend to blame women who reject
them but fail to grasp their repulsive personality. We call them
incels. Second to incels there are cheapos who can't afford
high-price escorts and yet cannot bring themselves to buy
sex from cheaper providers. There has to be another term
to label these cheapos.

 

[rhuarc29]

Wow, this thread is kind of rough. But I guess the OP got his answer...though I think he knew before asking.

In all my years of hobbying, the number of ladies whose service, appearance and personality I felt was worthy of the $350+ price range could be counted on one hand. To properly understand the value, you need to understand what else you could do with that money. I could treat my family to an extremely nice meal. I could see 10 movies in the VIP theater. I could upgrade my computer, car, or surround sound. I could buy 10 UHD movies and enjoy 20 hours of entertainment. I could buy 30 books and get DAYS of entertainment. Or I could spend 1 hour in a session with an SP. Whether or not the value is there depends entirely on the caliber of the lady. Not everyone understands value or, in the case of those with lots of easy money, not everyone CARES about the value equation.

In addition, I've found that, more than in any other industry, the price point often does not reflect the quality of the experience when it comes to SPs (unless it's under $240/hour, in which case the quality noticeably drops off). Which makes it relatively easy for me, the OP, and everyone else, to avoid those higher rates if desired. Could be easier still if the industry was more transparent, but we won't have that until we have decriminalization.

I just don't understand why this topic is brought up (not that I'm opposed to discussion). We each have our own value equation, or lack thereof. Yes, I find others often spend insane amounts on a subpar experience. I'm sure still others would feel the same about me. The point is, there are a plethora of options. Just go where you see the right value.

 

[explorerzip]

Wow, this thread is kind of rough. But I guess the OP got his answer...though I think he knew before asking.

Of course he knew the answer. That's why he hasn't shown his troll face since.

 

[jcpro]

You make the assumption that all girls are the same. Though I don't personally pay the higher prices I completely understand it for the experience. It is no different than paying for a more expensive bottle of wine because it is the one you want or for better sports tickets because you want to go instead of watching it on TV to save money that you don't need.

Squeezer is mostly right. I've paid a little and I've paid a lot. In the end there is very little difference, if any. Coming from a dirt poor background, although I can now afford it, I look for value. In ALL my purchases, including this activity. The ladies are free to charge whatever they want just as I'm free to shop.

 

[John Henry]

There are losers who are never able to get sex from
desirable women. They tend to blame women who reject
them but fail to grasp their repulsive personality. We call them
incels. Second to incels there are cheapos who can't afford
high-price escorts and yet cannot bring themselves to buy
sex from cheaper providers. There has to be another term
to label these cheapos.

Since when is not being to afford a high priced girl considered cheap ???? Not everyone makes bags of money to be spent with out caution . Have you noticed the real cheapos ?? They are the ones that have the money to spend . Just because a person doesn't have the money to spend does not make them cheap .

Losers who are not able to get sex from a desirable women . Then may I ask what are you doing on a review board . What brought you here . Is it because you can't find a desirable civvy so you are left to pay for it . Does that make you a loser ?

Now for the ladies that are saying staying in your own lane . Who made you Queen ? Do you never look for a deal when shopping? Do you always pay the full asking price on something that you want . Never wait or look for a deal . There have been threads here with women asking advice about buying certain items or dealing with insurance situations . I certainly don't hear from you ladies saying suck it up honey and pay the asking price to get something repaired or take the first offer that an insurance claim has to offer . But when men talk about money being paid for a ladies service you say suck it up , don't look if you can't afford it and stop being so cheap .

Let's see how cheap you are when the money is coming out of your pocket .

Yes when it comes to money going into ladies pockets from men some of you ladies have a different attitude . How nice .