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You guys really pay that much?

essguy_

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I don’t mean to brag but I just bought a 1984 Hyundai Pony. I could have saved money by settling with a 1981, but fuck it. I bought fake mag wheel hubcaps on Kijiji too. It is one SWEET RIDE. Life is too short to deny yourself of the finer things in life.
 

Jasmine Raine

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I don’t mean to brag but I just bought a 1984 Hyundai Pony. I could have saved money by settling with a 1981, but fuck it. I bought fake mag wheel hubcaps on Kijiji too. It is one SWEET RIDE. Life is too short to deny yourself of the finer things in life.
LMAO!!!! That was awesome. Enjoy your ride!
 

itd131

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Never, for me everything in life is about perceived value (to myself) - just because I can afford those rates doesn't mean I will pay them. There are many things in life I can afford which I don't purchase, no different for services.

You bring up a good point because when I visit various independents' websites and go to their rates I ask myself the same question, who the hell is paying these rates?! If you can buy the same Ferrari for $100 or for $200 obviously I am going to pick the $100! In this business you do not get what you pay for...
Yes, this is the thing that I think confuses a lot of guys. When I first got into this world I saw some very high priced SPs and found they offered no more or less really compared to SPs at more standard rates. There really isn't much reason to pay high end rates that I can see. Having said that, if you really want to see a lady with higher rates, then go for it, it's your money. It's not something I would do these days but I'm not one to judge. If it's worth it to you then enjoy yourself and don't look back. To the OP - don't try to figure this out, you won't. There are hundreds of reasons why people charge what they charge and pay what they pay and in the end, why care? Do what works for you and move on.

Violette, some guys might be bitter, but that's not where my comment is coming from. If a lady can charge $500 and hour and run a successful business then good for her and I admire her business skills. If I could figure out a way to make $500 an hour, I would do it too. If paying higher rates affects some dude's ego, frankly, who the fuck cares? Dude needs to grow up.
 

Knuckle Ball

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I'm not whining. I could give two shits. My rates aren't that higher and guys are not bitching about me.

What you said to Bone Ranger is a sensible and mature way to handle it. I totally agree. I agree that the board is used to warn about bad escorts and promote good ones. Just like you said.

But that does not mean that coming here to bitch about rates that you are either unwilling to pay or can't afford is what this is meant for. That is whining. Who TF cares what some other guys pay??? Anyone who does actually care have got some priorities wrong if you ask me.
If we were on a car forum, there would be guys who would bitch about Mercedes and the men who buy them as status symbols, penis extenders, etc. when they could buy a perfectly good Honda Civic. Then the Mercedes guys would respond by explaining all the reasons they buy expensive vehicles and accuse the Honda guys of being broke ass losers who are too ignorant to appreciate life’s finer things.

All good. The people who sell Mercedes vehicles aren’t gonna yet all butt hurt over the convo any more than the people who sell Honda’s. No one’s gonna lose an eye.
 

Knuckle Ball

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I'm not whining. I could give two shits. My rates aren't that higher and guys are not bitching about me.

What you said to Bone Ranger is a sensible and mature way to handle it. I totally agree. I agree that the board is used to warn about bad escorts and promote good ones. Just like you said.

But that does not mean that coming here to bitch about rates that you are either unwilling to pay or can't afford is what this is meant for. That is whining. Who TF cares what some other guys pay??? Anyone who does actually care have got some priorities wrong if you ask me.
If we were on a car forum, there would be guys who would bitch about Mercedes and the men who buy them as status symbols, penis extenders, etc. when they could buy a perfectly good Honda Civic. Then the Mercedes guys would respond by explaining all the reasons they buy expensive vehicles and accuse the Honda guys of being broke ass losers who are too ignorant to appreciate life’s finer things.

All good. The people who sell Mercedes vehicles aren’t gonna get all butt hurt over the convo any more than the people who sell Hondas. No one’s gonna lose an eye.
 

Jasmine Raine

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If we were on a car forum, there would be guys who would bitch about Mercedes and the men who buy them as status symbols, penis extenders, etc. when they could buy a perfectly good Honda Civic. Then the Mercedes guys would respond by explaining all the reasons they buy expensive vehicles and accuse the Honda guys of being broke ass losers who are too ignorant to appreciate life’s finer things.

All good. The people who sell Mercedes vehicles aren’t gonna yet all butt hurt over the convo any more than the people who sell Honda’s. No one’s gonna lose an eye.
You all think it is stupid to pay certain rates. We think it is equally stupid to whine and complain about someone who your not going to see anyways. And equally stupid to worry about someone else spending.

But I guess that's men for you.
 

Jasmine Raine

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Yes, this is the thing that I think confuses a lot of guys. When I first got into this world I saw some very high priced SPs and found they offered no more or less really compared to SPs at more standard rates. There really isn't much reason to pay high end rates that I can see. Having said that, if you really want to see a lady with higher rates, then go for it, it's your money. It's not something I would do these days but I'm not one to judge. If it's worth it to you then enjoy yourself and don't look back. To the OP - don't try to figure this out, you won't. There are hundreds of reasons why people charge what they charge and pay what they pay and in the end, why care? Do what works for you and move on.

Violette, some guys might be bitter, but that's not where my comment is coming from. If a lady can charge $500 and hour and run a successful business then good for her and I admire her business skills. If I could figure out a way to make $500 an hour, I would do it too. If paying higher rates affects some dude's ego, frankly, who the fuck cares? Dude needs to grow up.
That pretty much sums it up nicely. Thanks.
 

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You all think it is stupid to pay certain rates. We think it is equally stupid to whine and complain about someone who your not going to see anyways. And equally stupid to worry about someone else spending.

But I guess that's men for you.
Truer words have never been spoken....
 

explorerzip

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I dunno why people get so pissy about the topic of money and what constitutes “fair value”? Terb is an escort review board FFS...it’s entire existence is predicated on exactly this discussion. It is central to why guys come here...Deal with it.
This "discussion" has been going on forever and will never lead to any change in rates. Actually, it causes ladies to increase their rates and screening processes that separate the tire-kickers from the serious guys and I'm all for it. The whiners can keep doing what they're doing while I enjoy.
 

essguy_

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You all think it is stupid to pay certain rates. We think it is equally stupid to whine and complain about someone who your not going to see anyways. And equally stupid to worry about someone else spending.

But I guess that's men for you.
Truer words have never been spoken....
Definitely a guy thing. Eg - you should hear some of the comments ever since I traded my CCM bike with the banana seat and high handlebars and some cash for my ‘84 Pony (which I call “The Stallion”). Eg: some friends ask: “You paid HOW MUCH for that POS?” Hey, it’s my money!

I think they are jealous.
 

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From someone that has spent over 5k on a pair of event tickets, the buyer gets to decide how extravagant they want to be with their own money.
I’m not sure why guys get all worked on how others spend their money.
 

Knuckle Ball

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You all think it is stupid to pay certain rates. We think it is equally stupid to whine and complain about someone who your not going to see anyways. And equally stupid to worry about someone else spending.

But I guess that's men for you.
It’s not so much a matter of thinking it’s stupid...You feel threatened by the idea of guys questioning your rates. You worry that if the “high end” girls start charging less then there will be a trickle down effect and all sp’s will have to charge less. Thus, you shame guys who have the audacity to question why rates are the way they are in order to protect the existing rate structure.

The reality, of course, is that your earlier comment was correct: Rates are what they are. No amount of whining by guys or sp’s will change that. To the extent guys find these discussions helpful to clarify for themselves what they are willing to pay there is nothing wrong with discussing this topic. You may rest easy, though, knowing that rates will remain unchanged.
 

Knuckle Ball

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This "discussion" has been going on forever and will never lead to any change in rates. Actually, it causes ladies to increase their rates and screening processes that separate the tire-kickers from the serious guys and I'm all for it. The whiners can keep doing what they're doing while I enjoy.

I’ve seen no evidence of these discussions changing anything one way or the other.
 

TFZL1

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This topic keeps coming up, and it’s kind of entertainment in itself. People can go ahead and judge me for what I spent money on. I see escorts and don’t bitch about rates. I’ll buy gifts and or bring surprises for the ones I think are special. I’ll even pay for social time when I want a lady to accompany me to an event. I’ve taken some lady’s to concerts, movies, dinners, even cirque du soleil. I’ve taken a few Lady’s shopping, had some fun with that. And I won’t see, and not even interested in, the ones who I don’t think there is value.
I look up Lady’s on here, or on vipfavours, or on twitter and when I see a rate that’s too high, imho, I don’t follow.
I never critisize, best wishes to them, but It’s just so easy to find providers that are worth the price.
Ok, the part I will bitch about in a review is unreasonable upcharges. That is a major point that needs to be highlited in a review as a warning to others. Guys also need to warn each other about the deceptive gold diggers. I’ve seen some lady’s that started with reasonable price, but then went for more and more and more.
 

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I notice for a while.that all the sudden popular agency girls go independent and their prices jump to 350-400 an hour. Are some of you guys pay that much?
I've said this before and will say the same again when this question comes up.
There is no direct correlation between rates, service or looks. There are many indy and agency SP's who charge hourly rates of $250-300 that are just as good looking, provide better service than others who are charging $350/hr +. This is not to say that there aren't SP's who charge $350/hr that are great SP's. There are also many SP's who advertise as courtesans and charge higher rates in this city, but truly lack the attitude, service, looks and professionalism.

And to anyone who has a problem with this question being asked, if you don't like the question that's your problem you can simply ignore threads like this, but to attempt to tell other posters to stay in their own lane or mind their own business, it shows your lack of professionalism.
This is an Escort Review Board and hobbyists can ask questions to your dismay.
 

Jasmine Raine

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It’s not so much a matter of thinking it’s stupid...You feel threatened by the idea of guys questioning your rates. You worry that if the “high end” girls start charging less then there will be a trickle-down effect and all sp’s will have to charge less. Thus, you shame guys who have the audacity to question why rates are the way they are in order to protect the existing rate structure.

The reality, of course, is that your earlier comment was correct: Rates are what they are. No amount of whining by guys or sp’s will change that. To the extent guys find these discussions helpful to clarify for themselves what they are willing to pay there is nothing wrong with discussing this topic. You may rest easy, though, knowing that rates will remain unchanged.

You clearly know nothing about my business model. I'm not worried one bit about a trickle effect. My rates are considered on the higher end in Durham. It still works for me. I meet and usually exceed my quota monthly. I often take months off from new clients. I don't need this as an income which is why I can dish back to the guys what they dish out first.

Which is what happened here. You want to have a respectful conversation, no problem. You want to start making judgmental generalizing sweeping statements and negatively labelling people, I'm going to show you how the same can be said for you. Which is exactly what I did in my first reply to you.

When you spoke maturely about it with Bone Ranger, I gave you the credit for that.

There is a difference in the tone of some of these posts and it is those whiney negative ones that get the pushback. Because I can push back when others can't.

I have repeatedly helped newbies on this board. I've PMed members I think could help a newbie who is jumping in head first, giving loads of personal info, paying really high rates, etc. I feel they don't know all the risks and get caught up in what they perceive the rewards are. So I am not averse to a discussion. But some of this is simply not discussion. It is whiny. It is complaining. It is bitching for the sake of bitching. So I call it out for what it is.
 

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I notice for a while.that all the sudden popular agency girls go independent and their prices jump to 350-400 an hour. Are some of you guys pay that much?
you pay more when you go on regular dates
 

essguy_

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Guys - to be serious for a moment - take a restaurant analogy. There are high priced restaurants that are crap. There a low priced restaurants that are great. There are high priced restaurants that are great. And there are low priced restaurants that are crap. BUT... unless you have actually dined there, how can you comment? And if somebody wants to go there anyway and enjoys it, how does that effect your life one way or the other? It doesn’t. Besides, tastes and value are totally YMMV. There are lots of choices out there for every taste and budget.

In conclusion, I would suggest that rather than make blanket complaints about generic price levels in the lounge, make concrete reviews in the review section. If you’ve seen somebody and felt it was poor value (or vice versa) - make a post.

Anyway, have to go out and wax my Hyundai - don’t hate me because can afford to splurge on my beautiful ‘84 Pony (aka “The Stallion”).
 

Mable

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Everyone has their own SUBJECTIVE price point, regardless of the item involved. I know what I will pay for whatever, and that is that. As long as the guy is spending his own money, that is his business alone. In my business, I charge by the hour/and day. Many have much lower rates. People are free to not walk in my front door.
 
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