Idiot president will revoke 14th Amendment by executive order
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Hillary and the Democrats are not doing it. No Dem or Republican has ever done it.
Changing the Constitution requires an 80% vote in Congress...Trump wants to override Congress and change the constitution on his own through an executive order.
If he is able to amend the constitution on his own then he has absolute power. There would be nothing to stop him from dissolving Congress, suspending elections, and appointing himself Leader for Life.
and by happy coincidence BeerBoy happens to believe that a President has unlimited power to circumvent laws. Yes, Kavanaugh truly believes that a President is above the law.
The 14th amendment was written in a time before we had ILLEGAL immigration. It was created to give freed black slaves and indians a right to citizenship.
Today, with "Birther Tourism" and illegal immigration, there is no real definition of citizenship for them. Kind of a grey area thats being taken advantage of.
Nowhere in the amendment does it say that babies born to "Illegal immigrants" are entitled to citizenship.
How familiar are you with the U.S.? Repealing the 2nd Amendment will NOT happen in our lifetimes, and likely our children's lifetimes.
Dont bet on it. Did you ever think a guy that dresses as a girl would be allowed in the same washroom as your wife/daughter?
It all starts with certain people only being allowed to obtain guns. Do you think you might be eligible? We as ordinary citizens only listen to the obvious. We see politicians deflecting from an answer and dont call them out on the what the real answer is.
When someone tells you that there would be a vetting system but doesnt really offer up ALL the details, just some of them, why would you think its a good idea?
He just doesn't know much about the US Constitution and the ambit of presidential powers.....
But that's how the courts interpret it because there is no other interpretation that you can fit to the plain wording of the Amendment.
So Trump is still an idiot.
No, trump is not an idiot. He wants to put this before the courts to have a better definition of the law. The law was written long ago. Its not clear enough regarding the issues presented today.
Would you want a better definition of it as well?
Nowhere does it say they are not entitled. And that's how every President after Adam s got his citizenship, even though it wasn't written.
You're right about the 14th's history, but it's a history of using laws to deny obvious right and justice. The Amendment was the exception to that sorry record. People born in the country, perhaps second or third generation, who have known and had no other homes and no other citizenship cannot just be denied, to suit the selfish wishes of the privileged.
Except by criminal countries where justice is just a myth.
You should consider changing your handle to Densehammer.
Repealing the 14th Amendment would do irreparable harm to the American economy. Who do you think does most of the RD in the USA, Mississippians?
There is nothing in the wording of the 14th Amendment or its judicial history to support what Trump is doing. It's a pre election scam to whip up his base. And it's stupid.
I could say that the first degree murder prohibition in the Criminal Code has never been specifically interpreted to include being beaten to death with a giant cabbage and demand to have it litigated by the Supreme Court. But that would be almost as stupid as Trump and his antics, wouldn't it?
Ain't it cool oagre.
Trump could expel all those illegal Orientals and South Asians working to advance nuclear medicine, gene therapy, experimental oncology....and replace them with Trump's base. That would be heaven!
To praise Fathammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAF5-iao95c
This is not true, Trump knows its covered under 14th amendment, but he wants the higher courts to decide if the interpretation is constitutional.
14th is somewhat vague on whether the kids of illegal immigrants should still get birthright.
Some other G10 countries have abolished automatic citizenship recently if a child was born on their soil, but parents were not citizens
What in the world is vague about it: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
A thousand corrupt lawyers cannot create doubt about that. However, the current Supreme Court may very well.
