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Most Of America’s Terrorists Are White, And Not Muslim

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Most Of America’s Terrorists Are White, And Not Muslim
Right-wing terror is real, and it's a problem.


By Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, HuffPost

When it comes to domestic terrorism in America, the numbers don’t lie: Far-right extremists are behind far more plots and attacks than Islamist extremists.

There were almost twice as many terrorist incidents by right-wing extremists as by Islamist extremists in the U.S. from 2008 to 2016, according to a new report from The Nation Institute’s Investigative Fund and The Center for Investigative Reporting’s Reveal.

Looking at both plots and attacks carried out, the group tracked 201 terrorist incidents on U.S. soil from January 2008 to the end of 2016. The database shows 115 cases by right-wing extremists ― from white supremacists to militias to “sovereign citizens” ― compared to 63 cases by Islamist extremists. Incidents from left-wing extremists, which include ecoterrorists and animal rights militants, were comparatively rare, with 19 incidents.

When it comes to right-wing extremism, attackers are also 'mostly men' and 'almost purely white.' Reporter David Neiwert

While the database makes a point of distinguishing between different groups within right-wing extremism, lead reporter David Neiwert told HuffPost that “those are all gradations of white supremacy, variations on the same thing.” When it comes to right-wing extremism, attackers are also “mostly men” and “almost purely white,” Neiwert said.

Attacks by right-wing extremists were also more often deadly, with nearly a third of right-wing extremist incidents resulting in deaths compared with 13 percent of Islamist extremist cases resulting in deaths. However, the sheer number of people killed by Islamist extremists ― a total of 90 people killed ― was higher than the death toll at the hands of right-wing extremists ― 79 people killed.

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump has focused his rhetoric and policies almost entirely on countering Islamist extremism, and not white supremacist extremism.

“As with a lot of things related to Trump and the Islamophobic right, the reality is viewed through an upside-down looking glass,” Neiwert said. “The reality is the most significant domestic terror threat we have is right-wing extremism.”

Jeremy Christian, accused of fatally stabbings two men who tried to stop Christian from harassing two young black women who appeared to be Muslim, in Portland, Oregon -- May 30, 2017.

The Investigative Fund’s findings reflect those of previous studies of domestic terrorism. The New America Foundation, for instance, which has been tracking deadly terror incidents on U.S. soil since the Sept. 11 attacks, also finds an almost two-to-one ratio of attacks by far-right extremists to Islamist extremists, with 21 deadly attacks by far-right extremists, compared to 11 by Islamist extremists.

Despite the facts, many Americans still associate terror attacks with Islamist extremists rather than far-right extremists, Neiwart noted.

“I think the larger perception in the public ― and this includes many progressives and liberals ― is the inversion of the reality: that the greatest threat we face is Islamist radicals,” Neiwert said. “And it’s reflected in the way the press report upon various kinds of domestic terror attacks: When it’s a white domestic terrorist, they underplay it, write it off to mental illness.”

The reality is the most significant domestic terror threat we have is right-wing extremism. Reporter David Neiwert

The media has a long history of double standards when it comes to covering terrorism ― starting with how slow mainstream media is to label attacks by white perpetrators as “terrorism,” and quick to label them as such when attackers are perceived as nonwhite or “other” ― and specifically, Muslim.

Part of problem is the complex nature of how officials choose to categorize attacks as terrorism. The FBI has specific criteria its uses to classify terrorist incidents ― but the public doesn’t always agree with officials’ labels. For instance, many people condemned the government for not labeling Dylann Roof a terrorist after he killed nine black churchgoers in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015, even though he specifically said he was there “to shoot black people,” according to witnesses.

“There’s actually a debate over whether what Dylann Roof did was domestic terrorism, when it so plainly is domestic terrorism,” Neiwert told HuffPost. “A lot of this has to do with embedded judgements about where these threats come from ― and that has to do with fear-mongering around Islamophobia.”

The solution, according to Neiwert, lies with the government first acknowledging the scale of the problem of far-right extremism, and then dedicating resources to fighting it.

So far Trump has shown a clear double standard in his response to terrorism: After Islamist extremists attacked London on June 3, for instance, Trump condemned the violence on Twitter the same day ― but after an attack in Portland, Oregon, by a white supremacist on May 26, Trump waited more than two days before tweeting about it. After the London attack, Trump also called on the courts to reinstate his travel ban on certain Muslim-majority countries ― which was roundly criticized. After the Portland attack, Trump made no calls to change policy to prevent future attacks.

The Trump administration also reportedly just dropped funding for nonprofit Life After Hate, a group that helps people leave the white supremacist movement.

But it’s not just Trump that’s the problem. The Fund’s database goes back to 2008 and shows clearly how government resources have been disproportionately dedicated to tackling Islamist extremism over right-wing extremism. The government succeeded in interrupting the vast majority of Islamist extremist terror cases since 2008, for instance: 76 percent of incidents tracked were “foiled plots,” which the group noted showed “a significant investment of law enforcement resources.” When it came to right-wing extremism, only about a third of incidents were interrupted ― 35 percent ― and the majority of the cases included acts of violence that led to deaths, injuries or damaged property.

At the end of the day, it’s not only on the government to acknowledge the reality of the growing threat of far-right extremism, according to Neiwert, it’s on everyone from members of the media to average Americans.

“First thing we need to do is recognize that it’s there, it’s a problem, it’s a threat ― as great a threat as Islamists,” Neiwert said. “And it needs to be taken seriously.”


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Yeah you'll get more instances of "right-wing" terrorism since there are several hundred million more people in the US that are "right-wing" than are Muslim.

The fact that the numbers are even comparable indicates that Islamic terrorism is a serious problem that occurs at substantially and obscenely higher rates.
 

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Yeah you'll get more instances of "right-wing" terrorism since there are several hundred million more people in the US that are "right-wing" than are Muslim.

The fact that the numbers are even comparable indicates that Islamic terrorism is a serious problem that occurs at substantially and obscenely higher rates.

Let me throw another fact at you. Muslim extremism and violence have been around since the 1970's and were exported to the West in 9/11. That's 15 years ago. It takes time for an extremist nutbar movement to grow.

Rightie violent extremism is still a new phenomenon. Give it time and it will be FAR more widespread than Muslim extremism - even in proportion to respective population shares.

And what are the "substantially and obscenely higher rates of Muslim terrorism? - Well under 0.01%, last I checked.

 

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Let me throw another fact at you. Muslim extremism and violence have been around since the 1970's and were exported to the West in 9/11. That's 15 years ago. It takes time for an extremist nutbar movement to grow.

Rightie violent extremism is still a new phenomenon. Give it time and it will be FAR more widespread than Muslim extremism - even in proportion to respective population shares.
What you are seeing in USA is the formation of a Nationalist Brown shirt movement, which will grow in the fascist atmosphere created by Trump.

It is good TV entertainment. The reality show that is USA politics will become more and more extreme to keep the people entertained.
 

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What you are seeing in USA is the formation of a Nationalist Brown shirt movement, which will grow in the fascist atmosphere created by Trump.

It is good TV entertainment. The reality show that is USA politics will become more and more extreme to keep the people entertained.

It's already pretty evident if you follow the Sun op eds that righties post on this page and Fox News. To sell advertising, you need to trigger people. To trigger people, you need to be increasingly alarmist and extreme in your coverage and headlines. The righties feed off the media and the media feeds off the righties.
 

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Since there are over 245 million white Americans, it is far more truthful to say that almost all white Americans are not terrorists or terrorist supporters.

"Demography of the United States - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States
Whites constitute the majority of the U.S. population, with a total of about 245,532,000 or 77.7% of the population as of 2013."

Until they were all killed or captured, left wing terrorism (remember who kidnapped Patty Hearst) was the major terrorism danger in the U.S.
 

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Since there are over 245 million white Americans, it is far more truthful to say that almost all white Americans are not terrorists or terrorist supporters.

"Demography of the United States - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States
Whites constitute the majority of the U.S. population, with a total of about 245,532,000 or 77.7% of the population as of 2013."

Until they were all killed or captured, left wing terrorism (remember who kidnapped Patty Hearst) was the major terrorism danger in the U.S.
Wrong The KKK were the early terrorists in the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

So the right wing terrorism will always go down in American History as the biggest terrorist group.
 

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Since there are over 245 million white Americans, it is far more truthful to say that almost all white Americans are not terrorists or terrorist supporters.
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Yet your ilk still pretend that 1.5 billion Muslims are terrorists or terrorist supporters.
 

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It should be noted that many acts that have been labelled as right wing terrorism are in reality not right wing. It's liberal obfuscation to deflect from the true problem of radical Islam.
 

mandrill

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Ignorance is bliss. You fail to realize many in the KKK were left wing Democrats. Learn some damned history before you spout off nonsense.

Nonsense. They were actually "Dixiecrats" - nominally part of the Democratic Party, but virulently racist and right wing. By the 1950's, the Dixiecrat and northern Democrats had nothing ideologically in common. It was purely a tactical alliance which was about to splinter apart.

The Dixiecrats were never even remotely left wing.

The amusing thing is that you rant at Beaver and scold him about being ignorant, while getting all your facts wrong yourself.
 

mandrill

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It should be noted that many acts that have been labelled as right wing terrorism are in reality not right wing. It's liberal obfuscation to deflect from the true problem of radical Islam.

Huh?????

You mean the idiot who attended every Trump rally and sent pipe bombs to leading Dems isn't a rightie? He's a Democrat in disguise? How does that work in your head?

And how is that a "liberal obfuscation to deflect from radical Islam"? Your posts are often just ridiculous.
 

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Nonsense. They were actually "Dixiecrats" - nominally part of the Democratic Party, but virulently racist and right wing. By the 1950's, the Dixiecrat and northern Democrats had nothing ideologically in common. It was purely a tactical alliance which was about to splinter apart.

The Dixiecrats were never even remotely left wing.

The amusing thing is that you rant at Beaver and scold him about being ignorant, while getting all your facts wrong yourself.
3 Dixiecrats out of hundreds switched to the Republican party after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed. The last sitting KKK Senator was none other than Robert Byrd. A staunch West Virginian Democrat.
Q: Which president's administration instituted the Federal Housing Administration in 1934? A: FDR (Democrat)
Q: Which president oversaw the FHA's post WWII discriminatory practices from 1946-1953 which led to white flight to the suburbs? A: Truman (Democrat)
Q: Which president sent in the National Guard to Arkansas when they refused to abide by the Brown v Board of Education(1954) decision? Made civil rights a national priority? A: Eisenhower (Republican)
Q: Which president's administration created and oversaw policies that further ghettoized Blacks and led to the disintegration of the black family leading to civil unrest and riots? A: L.B. Johnson (Democrat)

LBJ made blacks subservient to the state to secure their votes indefinitely. There's no denying history here once black folks become truly educated about what happened to their plight and who was responsible for it there will be 'black flight' from the Democratic Party plantation. It's already starting.

Get enlightened by reading Dinesh D'Souza's Hilary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party.
 

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Let me throw another fact at you. Muslim extremism and violence have been around since the 1970's and were exported to the West in 9/11. That's 15 years ago. It takes time for an extremist nutbar movement to grow.

Rightie violent extremism is still a new phenomenon. Give it time and it will be FAR more widespread than Muslim extremism - even in proportion to respective population shares.

And what are the "substantially and obscenely higher rates of Muslim terrorism? - Well under 0.01%, last I checked.

Koresh? Ruby Ridge? Oklahoma Bombing?
 
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