Hence, the problem with stats. An anti-gun nut would say LEGALLY REGISTERED CRIME GUNS SEIZED HAVE NEARLY DOUBLED IN THE LAST 4 YEARS by using the stats for 2013 and 2017. A gun nut would say LEGALLY REGISTERED CRIME GUNS SEIZED HAVE DROPPED BY ALMOST TWO-THIRDS IN THE LAST 8 YEARS by using the stats for 2010 and 2017. Of course, both these statements are true. But they tell a misleading picture. To get a clear picture, you need to take into account more than a couple data points. It looks to me like the trend is mildly downwards.Personally I would have gone one step further and requested overall numbers for 'gun crime' bearing in mind these figures from TPS include something as simple as a legitimate firearm being stolen from the legitimate owner...
Handgun ban supported by majority of Canadians: Nanos survey
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I get it! police carry handguns for shooting people. Brilliant deduction, Sherlock!
The article is a bunch of conflationary garbage.
"The allure of a quick sell at a high profit margin is one reason legal owners might sell their guns. One man sold 47 guns and made over $100,000 in a five month period, the detective said."
Did you know that each handgun sale/transfer must be approved by the Chief Firearms Officer (OPP)?
So how on earth did the OPP approve the legal sale of 47 handguns to the same licensed person? The CFO has the authority to deny the transfer for any legitimate reason, including unjustified numbers of handguns. The transfer of more than a couple of handguns warrants police investigation.
If they did so, then it's the enforcement system that's broken.
More likely, the 47 'guns' are not handguns, but long-guns. But the issue here is handguns, thus the conflation.
The article likely was written by a junior, lowly paid Canadian Press staff writer, with a greater ideological bent than journalistic integrity.
Don't believe everything you see or read in the mass media.
Actually, the rate of accidental shootings in the US is quite low: 500 per year.
That's considering that there are over 85 million known legal pistol owners in the US, and their storage requirements are very slack compared to the requirements in Canada: storage and transport.
The average kid in the US has a much greater chance of drowning in the family swimming pool than being shot accidentally by the gun of a negligent gun owner.
Ergo, if we follow the logic here, swimming pools ought to be banned, as they are not really necessary. Besides, if it only saves one life......
Seems like the Olympic committee and thousands of Canadians disagree with you. Thousands of Canadians with no criminal record, no history of domestic violence and who are checked every single day by the donkey wallopers.
You should take a look at who the top anti gun people are in Canada. Maybe check out the Criminal Code and Firearms Act. Educate yourself.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...receded-cukiers-exit-from-brocks-top-job.html
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So if hand guns are banned then I guess that police should be banned from having guns as well since gun crime will be almost non existent and police seem to be a major source of illegal domestic guns.
These statistics are from a 2012 article so they cover less than 4 years. (over 100 lost guns a year)
Based on Freedom of Information requests, the National Firearms Association (NFA) has determined that since October 2008, police forces and other law-enforcement agencies have lost at least 428 firearms nationwide. Thirty-two were lost by or stolen from the RCMP. Another 316 went missing from municipal police forces, while 80 have gone missing from other agencies, exclusive of the military. The missing arsenal includes two sniper rifles lost by the Peel regional police outside Toronto, one handgun left in a Tim Hortons, one dropped in a parking lot and several left behind at crime scenes
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/lorne-gunter-when-police-mishandle-guns-vs-when-you-do
These statistics are from a 2012 article so they cover less than 4 years. (over 100 lost guns a year)
Based on Freedom of Information requests, the National Firearms Association (NFA) has determined that since October 2008, police forces and other law-enforcement agencies have lost at least 428 firearms nationwide. Thirty-two were lost by or stolen from the RCMP. Another 316 went missing from municipal police forces, while 80 have gone missing from other agencies, exclusive of the military. The missing arsenal includes two sniper rifles lost by the Peel regional police outside Toronto, one handgun left in a Tim Hortons, one dropped in a parking lot and several left behind at crime scenes
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/lorne-gunter-when-police-mishandle-guns-vs-when-you-do
On HH's racist point where this started, how many Muslim terror attacks are there in the US per year?
Just like we ban police from speeding, running red lights, or leaving their lane in traffic in the course of their duty?
Based on the number of Muslims in the US, and the incidents carried out by them are ssat thao few that they make the news when they occur, I would sayely that the risk is extremely low.
If there were 3 Muslims in the US, and one carried out a terrorist attack, then I would be very concerned about them. But as there are millions out there, and maybe fewer attack than the number of fingers on your hands, then I have no issure with them.
The problem in the US is inner city gangs that came as a result of economic desparity and urban decay.
Nice to see a gun fan that isn't wrapped up in the extremist racial agenda that many of the NRA disciples find appealing.
The majority of Canadians do not realize how many steps are required to own a restricted weapon - so many have the reaction that a ban of handguns will automatically make a diference. This is misinformed. Canada already has good gun laws and additional requirements for restricted weapons. Eg: In addition to a PAL, you need to take an additional safety course in to upgrade your license. Then every restricted weapon must be registered according to the Firearms Act (eg: the weapon is identified by serial number and description. The registration is under one name.... In other words a Gun registry but for restricted weapons). THEN you need an Authorization to Transport. So it is not an easy, one step process. Canadian fire arms regulations are more than adequate to control the ownership of legal guns - both restricted and non-restricted. Banning handguns will do nothing to make Canada safer because our current laws already require steps for the LEGAL purchase of a firearm. Legal firearms are not the problem.
Promo exposed your hypocrisy.
So if the media spreads bullshit it not acceptable. If someone like you spreads bullshit, it is perfectly fine.
More hypocrisy.
Unless you know for a fact there is a flaw in the survey, you are grasping at straws and have no rational reason to doubt the results.
Please point out precisely where the bias was. Based on your knowledge of polling, where are the flaws in the methodology?
However, the question was posed to voting public, the people who you mention above work for and are supposed to listen to.
How about you educate yourself. Try living outside of Toronto as well. Canada is a large country.
Better yet, go through the process to get a license and see how tough it is and what it takes.
https://www.cbc.ca/listen/shows/bc-today/episode/15601662
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sask...et-in-attacking-senseless-gun-crime-1.4830587
Also look at who one of the biggest supporters of gun bans is and what type of person she is.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...receded-cukiers-exit-from-brocks-top-job.html
