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Brett Kavanaugh and His Accuser Say They’re Willing to Testify

bver_hunter

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I don't believe one word she says. It's Clarence Thomas all over again, only this accuser has even less credibility. She had plenty of chances to seek justice. He has been in the public eye for almost two decades. Coming out at the Supreme Court hearings, through a letter(who the fuck writes letters, anymore?) to a partisan hoe tells me all I need to know. Should she be believed? As much as Bill Clinton's accusers were believed. Fair's fair.
The victim is a "hoe"?? Kavanugh has all along showed how little credibility he has. It is not easy for a woman to come out and reveal their experiences in these matters. It is brave for her to do so.
So much for a dude that pretends that he is a family man. He is nothing less than a douche bag, who like Trump himself are always trying to blame the victims. But then Trump has a base that buys all of his lies from Day 1. I did not believe one single word from Kavanaugh, when he was interviewed by Congress.
 

Charlemagne

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If she show can show evidence beyond uncooborated testimony it should be weighed.

And her councilling sessions don't qualify.
Actually the word of a mental health professional has a lot of weight, whether YOU want to believe that or not.
 

K Douglas

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Actually the word of a mental health professional has a lot of weight, whether YOU want to believe that or not.
She's a pawn, being used by the (Un)Democrats and their allies. Probably paying her a decent amount of money. Just like the ladies in Alabama. Funny how their allegations just disappeared once Roy Moore lost to Doug Jones.
 

Butler1000

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Actually the word of a mental health professional has a lot of weight, whether YOU want to believe that or not.
She isn't testifying. And I doubt the Senate will hear from her.

In essence it's the same testimony, just hearsay.

What people don't realize is the threats a few GOP Senators have been receiving over this confirmation. As well as their staff. That is going to weigh heavier.

She will get to speak. And in the meantime we shall see what her past has to say.
 

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This is beauty. The best part runs from 3 minutes onwards. So apropos.
 

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The victim is a "hoe"?? Kavanugh has all along showed how little credibility he has. It is not easy for a woman to come out and reveal their experiences in these matters. It is brave for her to do so.
So much for a dude that pretends that he is a family man. He is nothing less than a douche bag, who like Trump himself are always trying to blame the victims. But then Trump has a base that buys all of his lies from Day 1. I did not believe one single word from Kavanaugh, when he was interviewed by Congress.
Pay attention! I said letter TO a partisan hoe- Dianne Feinstein. He has so little credibility that the Dems had to reach right down to the bottom of the gutter and 36 years back because they couldn't nail him on his record. You're wallowing with pigs, buddy.
 

jcpro

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She's a pawn, being used by the (Un)Democrats and their allies. Probably paying her a decent amount of money. Just like the ladies in Alabama. Funny how their allegations just disappeared once Roy Moore lost to Doug Jones.
No, you're wrong. This is completely organic and spontaneous. That's why Feinstein sat on the letter since July and that's why the "victim" paid for a polygraph test and hired a lawyer in August. Timing is everything, if you're going to attempt to destroy a Republican appointed judge.
 

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. . .Kavanugh has all along showed how little credibility he has. It is not easy for a woman to come out and reveal their experiences in these matters. It is brave for her to do so.
So much for a dude that pretends that he is a family man. He is nothing less than a douche bag, who like Trump himself are always trying to blame the victims. But then Trump has a base that buys all of his lies from Day 1. I did not believe one single word from Kavanaugh, when he was interviewed by Congress.
How asinine, a highly respected jurist who has served for over a decade on what amounts to the second most important court in the U.S. has "little credibility" and is "a douche bag."
 

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Actually the word of a mental health professional has a lot of weight, whether YOU want to believe that or not.
Memories from 37 years ago, particularly when they fly in the face of all later conduct as well as others memories of the same time period do not have greater wait merely because they come forth in the context of marital counseling.
 

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I don't know. I'm waiting to see the testimony.
That is definitely a much different approach than you have with the Mueller investigation.

You have not seen the evidence (of which a lot is gotten via TESTIMONY) but you are sure that they have nothing on trump.

Why are you not consistent?
 

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Unless there is a stained dress he’s in pretty good shape.
 

Butler1000

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That is definitely a much different approach than you have with the Mueller investigation.

You have not seen the evidence (of which a lot is gotten via TESTIMONY) but you are sure that they have nothing on trump.

Why are you not consistent?
Apples and oranges. That simple.
 

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I'm not entirely comfortable with barbequing a guy over some bad teenage behavior from 35 years ago. I can remember doing some stupid shit back then too. He was 17 for fuck's sake. It's the stupidity of youth and I'm willing to give him a pass on it. From what I've read, he was quite drunk, as was his buddy. (I've been there, I've seen that.) It was a party at a house, he's high on youth and hormones and has teenage energy to burn and everything is in technicolour and going at warp 7. He made a teenage pass at a girl and she got out of there and no harm was done. (Yes yes, I know, she claims she was scarred for life, had to even tell her shrink about it. Sorry about that, but in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't that bad.) But you know what, I was at that party (so to speak) and a dozen other parties just like that where dumb kids get together and the drama commences. It's normal teenage behaviour. Now it seems stupid and childish (and guess what, it is.) But at 17, he's closer to 12 than he was 25.

All that said, if it did go down as she said (and I do believe her), then he just lied about it. That my friends, as Bill Clinton knows, is an entirely different kettle of fish.
 

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I'm not entirely comfortable with barbequing a guy over some bad teenage behavior from 35 years ago. I can remember doing some stupid shit back then too. He was 17 for fuck's sake. It's the stupidity of youth and I'm willing to give him a pass on it. From what I've read, he was quite drunk, as was his buddy. (I've been there, I've seen that.) It was a party at a house, he's high on youth and hormones and has teenage energy to burn and everything is in technicolour and going at warp 7. He made a teenage pass at a girl and she got out of there and no harm was done. (Yes yes, I know, she claims she was scarred for life, had to even tell her shrink about it. Sorry about that, but in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't that bad.) But you know what, I was at that party (so to speak) and a dozen other parties just like that where dumb kids get together and the drama commences. It's normal teenage behaviour. Now it seems stupid and childish (and guess what, it is.) But at 17, he's closer to 12 than he was 25.

All that said, if it did go down as she said (and I do believe her), then he just lied about it. That my friends, as Bill Clinton knows, is an entirely different kettle of fish.
There is zero evidence.

It’s 35 years ago.

It’s clearly a political stunt by desperate Democrats.

I don’t see GOP Senators falling for it.

Could make some compelling GOP ads in North Dakota and Indiana.
 

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Maybe things have changed but I remember there were a lot of groping by both females and males at the high school and university parties I attended but I don't recall it ever rose to the level of rape, attempted rape, murder or attempted murder.

The onus, as it should be, is for the accuser to prove her (or his) case. One and only one accuser in 36 years makes me skeptical.
 

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Whether this is true or not - it is really over-riding issues that are of equal or even greater concern: His personal finances. This is all in his financial disclosures, and show high amounts of personal line of credit and credit card debt (for his level of salary) - eg: $200,000 at one point on three cards. This debt just vanished one month, paid off - so how did he pay off these debts? That's why there were questions about possible gambling problem. A judge, possible gambling problem, high fluctuations in personal debt.. yeah, what could possibly go wrong here?
 

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Whether this is true or not - it is really over-riding issues that are of equal or even greater concern: His personal finances. This is all in his financial disclosures, and show high amounts of personal line of credit and credit card debt (for his level of salary) - eg: $200,000 at one point on three cards. This debt just vanished one month, paid off - so how did he pay off these debts? That's why there were questions about possible gambling problem. A judge, possible gambling problem, high fluctuations in personal debt.. yeah, what could possibly go wrong here?
Wasn’t the explanation that he bought baseball tickets for others and they paid him back?

I think if there were a credible vice issue the Dems would focus on that vs an alleged 35 yr old grope.
 

essguy_

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Wasn’t the explanation that he bought baseball tickets for others and they paid him back?
Yeah, that's what he said. But it doesn't really add up to a $200K credit card debt level at one time, unless he was buying ticket inventory to scalp on the side.... LOL! Don't know about you, but I've never come close to running up $200K debt at one time on tickets of any kind. But I'm sure he and his buddies are big MLB fans, and like a good pal, he fronted tickets for everybody using multiple cards. You DO realize how preposterous that sounds?
 
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