Screening - are you okay with providing real info to providers?
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Which means it is paramount to create an alias for the hobby. An in good standing Terb/twitter (or other types of social media switter, ig etc) account will help that.
No personal information. It's a win-win for both sides.
Ding ding ding. We have a winner!
It is just time to hit the ignore switch on the trolls
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I guess not! Lol. Do you?
So why don't you feel good sharing your personal information with providers then, if not to protect yourself?
Hmm, I think any woman who disagrees with you is uppity in your books.
If this was a different forum I’d be thinking #gamersgate now.
If this was a different forum I’d be thinking #gamersgate now.
I didn't refer to anyone as 'uppidity', that was your choice of label for Jessica I believe and can see how you are trying to shift the word to me. I disagree with her, but I don't tend to label people. Go have a look. Throwing around name-calling gets you banned like 2nd Ranger from last night (I believe, I know he is banned and threads he started were removed)
How again are you assessing my relationships with any other women? Based on my terb comments to you and a bunch of old timers? Seems like a bit of a reach, but you do you.
PS - I'm not sure I'm catching your #gamersgate reference or relevance here. You do know that #gamergate was feminist propaganda created by Anita Sarkeesian about female superheroes having tight costumes and bouncing cartoon boobs and bums, right?
I don't usually bother to reply to your neutral posts from the back benches, but I'm curious why you constantly post the same comment of creating a terb or Twitter handle for hobbying?
Anyone who reads this here has this already; because we're already on terb NOW.
I think I've seen you post this over 10 times at least, who are you talking to? The contensious discussion / thread title is always about real info /personal information being shared, not terb handles. No one has argued about terb or twitter that I've seen, but I'm new, maybe I'm missing something. Anyhow...
Heh, I knew it. That kind of distorted perception could only come from one of those.
Holy crap. Not another one of these threads. Please see what i posted when this was discussed in the lounge mere weeks ago.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?626458-Ladies-require-references&p=6045094#post6045094
“There really should be a sticky about this.
If you have no references
1. Most who require refs will book you with some form of confirmation of who you are.
2. Some will accept a terb handle, if you have a presence here, have reviewed, and don’t act like a dick in these forums.
3. Some (if their primary concern is no shows) will accept some kind of prepayment.
4. If none of the above are acceptable, there are literally dozens of other great options! Look for well- reviewed agency girls. There are some wonderful providers who, with the added risk mitigation that the agency provides, will see guys with no reference. If you are smart, choose agency girls that have a presence here or on Twitter. Then you can build a bit of a “portfolio “ of girls who now can act as references for you! Problem solved!
(Of course if you want a good reference, be a good client. Show up. On time. Be discreet when you arrive. Be clean, take shower when offered, even if you just had one. Be nice, treat the provider like a real woman, not simply a sex toy. Pay. Preferably immediately upon arrival. Respect limits and don’t overstay your welcome. If you do this, you will build a good reputation as a good client, and you will have no trouble booking the girls you want to see ) as an aside, for me at least a good reference has really broken the ice with a new girl, and allowed us to skip that initial slightly uncomfortable few minutes, and get right to really getting To know each other. In at least one case I’m sure it helped make a session super hot as well, cuz I got such a good ref, that the girl was actually excited to see me (or maybe it was just a little competitiveness, to show me she could give me a hotter time than the other girl!”
Decide how much info you are able to disclose,based on your own privacy needs / risk tolerance, if that doesn’t match with what an SP needs to feel safe/ comfortable, move on. Ffs
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?626458-Ladies-require-references&p=6045094#post6045094
“There really should be a sticky about this.
If you have no references
1. Most who require refs will book you with some form of confirmation of who you are.
2. Some will accept a terb handle, if you have a presence here, have reviewed, and don’t act like a dick in these forums.
3. Some (if their primary concern is no shows) will accept some kind of prepayment.
4. If none of the above are acceptable, there are literally dozens of other great options! Look for well- reviewed agency girls. There are some wonderful providers who, with the added risk mitigation that the agency provides, will see guys with no reference. If you are smart, choose agency girls that have a presence here or on Twitter. Then you can build a bit of a “portfolio “ of girls who now can act as references for you! Problem solved!
(Of course if you want a good reference, be a good client. Show up. On time. Be discreet when you arrive. Be clean, take shower when offered, even if you just had one. Be nice, treat the provider like a real woman, not simply a sex toy. Pay. Preferably immediately upon arrival. Respect limits and don’t overstay your welcome. If you do this, you will build a good reputation as a good client, and you will have no trouble booking the girls you want to see ) as an aside, for me at least a good reference has really broken the ice with a new girl, and allowed us to skip that initial slightly uncomfortable few minutes, and get right to really getting To know each other. In at least one case I’m sure it helped make a session super hot as well, cuz I got such a good ref, that the girl was actually excited to see me (or maybe it was just a little competitiveness, to show me she could give me a hotter time than the other girl!”
Decide how much info you are able to disclose,based on your own privacy needs / risk tolerance, if that doesn’t match with what an SP needs to feel safe/ comfortable, move on. Ffs
I must not be playing in the same park...
1- I have a texting app and I've NEVER been challenged. I wouldn't pay for a burner phone, hobbying is expensive enough as it is! Beside, wtf am i going to tell people for having 2 phones if they see it?!?! Instead I have a ALL FREE second secret user account on my phone which is 100% independent from the "real me" phone account and it works like a charm with ZERO flaws
2- I have never shown any ID or personal info and never will I, same goes for etransfer deposits. If you like risks, enjoy them. Personally, I aim to reduce them.
3- I've never been asked for a reference, yet I could provide over 30! I've never been asked for a Terb handle either. tbh Terb never comes up during any encounter and that's how I want to keep it. I think the active members on Terb have this illusion that every Hobbyists in Ottawa are involved with Terb and that we somehow have enough power here to influence the industry...
Which park are you playing in?? How many Providers ask for these kinds of thing? Like 10 in Ottawa? I guess I never texted them to inquire about their services.
Reading Massman, I feel like bobbiz and clearly not playing in the same park, city...
So to reiterate: Formal screening/references?
ID-bad...really bad!
TERB handle-useless...
Personal cell - rolling the dice
Etransfer - come on, who is that dumb especially on an initial booking
WKRP's favourite DJ covered it from the outset in his initial post - "So no, while I respect the reasoning behind it I would never send anyone compromising information. It's just not worth the risk of your life being burnt to the ground."
Again, the legal risk is still 100% born out by the hobbyist with each and every exchange with a provider. While a provider has a definite greater physical risk, the math would tell you the probability is low on an initial exchange and diminishing with each successive booking...the legal risk however remains the same and unshared... (arguably could be greater with each additional exchange). Providing a drivers license is akin to providing gas to a fire that hasn't been lit... I've never been asked for a reference..so wondering the same as his bobness,."not in the same park" is right...licenses ...that's an out of this world suggestion..has me wondering what other planets have cars?
) A good instinct and some smarts have been and are likely to remain the most effective tools for screening each side of the transaction where it matter's most on that initial visit. This should be about reducing risk and increasing reward for all involved. Imagine world with little to no risk for both sides...could that mean lower rates and higher volume ...win-win?Good thread! Lots of good opinions.
Toronto is a different beast altogether than Ottawa, with a lot more fish, and even more hooks! You have some very level headed, positive, smart, and unselfish SP's contributing some good perspective.
My highlights:
There's a resounding theme of an SP being harmed or threatened by one client, causing them to change their screening process for all future clients.
Asking for an SP reference seems to be suicide for one relationship for a potential new one, so you hope it's hope worth it, but you know exactly which of your SP's you won't risk slighting them for this purpose... especially if they don't ask for references themselves.
The most common element throughout was definitely that most indy and non Indy SP's and MA's don't ask for any of it, so just find another with less screening required (and usually less uptight overall).
There are plenty of guys being blackmailed in the states right now with panic caused by the BP shutdown. The personal information they gladly turned over to SP's is being used against them.
A hobbyist only has to misguage who they provide this information to once and it could be social life / marriage / career ending.
Some older clients seem almost flippant about it and hand it over no problem. I'm not sure if it's bravado or if they just dgaf anymore.
Food for thought. I know where I stand on personal information and reference requirements.
Edit to add 2 great things:
1) Probably the most true statement about this hobby you'll ever read I saw from massman, so props for this:
"Wow. However great this girl may or may not be, the negative posts confirm that she does not understand one (the) major absolute non-negotiable requirement guys expect from escorts. Total and complete lack of drama."
2) J-E-T-S WIN! 7-4!
Pretty much exactly how I see it. The point of the thread was really to see how much risk tolerance most people have, and I'm not surprised most people come down on the side of not providing personal information. As noted above though, I've no issue with those who do ask for that kind of information and I respect why they do, it's not worth the risk for me.
This is not an anonymous industry. It is a discrete industry but not an anonymous one.
That is a misconception that people need to come to terms with. On both sides of the coin.
That is a misconception that people need to come to terms with. On both sides of the coin.
Nope! Your real life stays private, always, and if you don't like it, 99% will just find someone else. You don't run the show Jessica and there is no professional standards in this ever changing industry. You have to evolve with the times just like we all do as well. Run it any way you want, but staying anonymous is perfectly fine for almost all encounters. If someone wants to take the risk, they can (but they shouldn't due to extreme high risk) #brokenrecord
