dougy want to fight the feds on carbon tax lol

[nottyboi]

When asked about Ford’s stance, McKenna said “we’ve been clear if the federal government has to step in, the revenues will go back to the province — but we will determine how they go back, and we could give them back directly to people and businesses so they would not go to the government.”

But in a statement to the Star, Ford said a PC government would fight the federal Liberals.

A carbon tax “makes life more expensive, and our province more uncompetitive,” he said. “I have been very clear, the Ontario PCs will scrap Kathleen Wynne’s expensive cap-and-trade carbon tax scheme.

“We will also take the federal government all the way to the Supreme Court if we have to, if it means stopping this tax from being rammed down our province’s throat.”"

Net Net, if Ford kills Cap and trade, Fed carbon tax kicks in. Feds have jurisdiction on environment and can pretty much impose ANY tax they want. So Ford will waste MILLIONS in a battle he has no chance of winning. People would vote for this clown? really? OMG.

 

[Frankfooter]

Course they will!
They will take him at his word, even if there is no chance he'll do what he claims he can.
Ferris Wheels for all!

 

[Boober69]

When asked about Ford’s stance, McKenna said “we’ve been clear if the federal government has to step in, the revenues will go back to the province — but we will determine how they go back, and we could give them back directly to people and businesses so they would not go to the government.”

But in a statement to the Star, Ford said a PC government would fight the federal Liberals.

A carbon tax “makes life more expensive, and our province more uncompetitive,” he said. “I have been very clear, the Ontario PCs will scrap Kathleen Wynne’s expensive cap-and-trade carbon tax scheme.

“We will also take the federal government all the way to the Supreme Court if we have to, if it means stopping this tax from being rammed down our province’s throat.”"

Net Net, if Ford kills Cap and trade, Fed carbon tax kicks in. Feds have jurisdiction on environment and can pretty much impose ANY tax they want. So Ford will waste MILLIONS in a battle he has no chance of winning. People would vote for this clown? really? OMG.

So you would rather get ripped off by the carbon tax cash grab which the Liberals can't even explain, than vote for someone who will challenge it altogether?
And it amazes me what people assume Ford will do. How do you know?
If you don't like the guy that's your opinion...but basing your opinion on something that he hasn't done?
Don't you think there has been enough proof over the past 15 years of how much the Liberals have mismanaged our finances? Boondoggles, criminal convictions, etc?
But that's ok?
Jeezuz.

 

[JohnLarue]

When asked about Ford’s stance, McKenna said “we’ve been clear if the federal government has to step in, the revenues will go back to the province — but we will determine how they go back, and we could give them back directly to people and businesses so they would not go to the government.”

But in a statement to the Star, Ford said a PC government would fight the federal Liberals.

A carbon tax “makes life more expensive, and our province more uncompetitive,” he said. “I have been very clear, the Ontario PCs will scrap Kathleen Wynne’s expensive cap-and-trade carbon tax scheme.

“We will also take the federal government all the way to the Supreme Court if we have to, if it means stopping this tax from being rammed down our province’s throat.”"

Net Net, if Ford kills Cap and trade, Fed carbon tax kicks in. Feds have jurisdiction on environment and can pretty much impose ANY tax they want. So Ford will waste MILLIONS in a battle he has no chance of winning. People would vote for this clown? really? OMG.

Alberta will soon have a change in government , Sask has always been against this idea, if the new premier of Ont fights this , Justin's plan falls apart.
Capital is leaving Canada right now , Justin will soon have to answer some very serious questions about how his policies have rendered us un-competitive.

This is most certainly not the done deal that you imply

 

[Butler1000]

If he impliments it it becomes the election issue that will kill him.

If he doesn't he loses the voters who switched from the greens and the NDP. Some of whom he already lost on electoral reform.

It's a no win so let's see which way he swings.

 

[nottyboi]

So you would rather get ripped off by the carbon tax cash grab which the Liberals can't even explain, than vote for someone who will challenge it altogether?
And it amazes me what people assume Ford will do. How do you know?
If you don't like the guy that's your opinion...but basing your opinion on something that he hasn't done?
Don't you think there has been enough proof over the past 15 years of how much the Liberals have mismanaged our finances? Boondoggles, criminal convictions, etc?
But that's ok?
Jeezuz.

The carbon tax is a federal initiative. In some areas such as taxation they have complete authority over tax policy. You can only challenge it if it is applied in a discriminatory way or its interpretation. If Wynnes cap and trade tax is eliminated, experts say the Federal carbon tax will COST MORE. Add to that the waste of fighting something that is well within the purview of the federal govt and its simply irresponsible. Trudeau ran on an environmental platform, he won, passed the law, all provinces must comply.

 

[nottyboi]

If he impliments it it becomes the election issue that will kill him.

If he doesn't he loses the voters who switched from the greens and the NDP. Some of whom he already lost on electoral reform.

It's a no win so let's see which way he swings.

Quebec, Ontario and BC already have it in place. Alberta is never gonna vote for Trudeau anyway, and no other provinces really matter that much.

 

[nottyboi]

If he impliments it it becomes the election issue that will kill him.

If he doesn't he loses the voters who switched from the greens and the NDP. Some of whom he already lost on electoral reform.

It's a no win so let's see which way he swings.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poll-abacus-carbon-tax-1.4603824

Seems like 60% of Canadians still support more more govt action to reduce emissions.

 

[bver_hunter]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poll-abacus-carbon-tax-1.4603824

Seems like 60% of Canadians still support more more govt action to reduce emissions.

It is great to see that the majority of the Canadians believe that Climate Change is real. Even in a Conservative Province like Alberta 46% believe in Climate Change. Trudeau campaigned for climate change and even Harper believed that it was real. So it was good to see that Trudeau implemented that policy. It is just the Trump cult followers that live in denial, and off course they will follow Dumb Ford like a flock of chickens.

 

[jcpro]

The carbon tax is a federal initiative. In some areas such as taxation they have complete authority over tax policy. You can only challenge it if it is applied in a discriminatory way or its interpretation. If Wynnes cap and trade tax is eliminated, experts say the Federal carbon tax will COST MORE. Add to that the waste of fighting something that is well within the purview of the federal govt and its simply irresponsible. Trudeau ran on an environmental platform, he won, passed the law, all provinces must comply.

Good, let the Fed tax kick in. That's what Ford will hope for. He'll have an instant excuse and a scapegoat. The support for carbon taxation is very soft despite the CBC polling. With half of the provinces blaming the fed for higher cost of living, fleeing investment and uneven playing field versus American economy, it will be just another issue Trudeau will have to fight come the next election.

 

[Boober69]

It is great to see that the majority of the Canadians believe that Climate Change is real. Even in a Conservative Province like Alberta 46% believe in Climate Change. Trudeau campaigned for climate change and even Harper believed that it was real. So it was good to see that Trudeau implemented that policy. It is just the Trump cult followers that live in denial, and off course they will follow Dumb Ford like a flock of chickens.

The Liberals don't have a plan nor understand what impacts the carbon tax will have on the environment.
All they know is how much they can bank on collecting.
One doesn't have to do with the other which is the problem.

This is not about climate change being real or not. It's about a cash grab that they themselves can't explain.

 

[K Douglas]

Can any one of your resident alarmists tell me what benefit we get for paying this carbon tax? Seems both Trudeau and McKenna have been asked on multiple occasions and they have yet to provide a credible answer. Or as a matter of fact, any answer.

I pay tax I want to see a benefit. That's my right as a taxpayer. Education, healthcare, roads, military, police and fire services, income security, pensions, emergency management services - no problem. Fighting a climate bogeyman - problem.

 

[bver_hunter]

The Liberals don't have a plan nor understand what impacts the carbon tax will have on the environment.
All they know is how much they can bank on collecting.
One doesn't have to do with the other which is the problem.

This is not about climate change being real or not. It's about a cash grab that they themselves can't explain.

Plain and simple. For the investment in the reduction of Green House Gases.
Problem is that the Climate Change deniers will always try to nitpick on the carbon tax that even Harper was in favour of.
So cash grab is the usual bs touted by these deniers.

 

[K Douglas]

Plain and simple. For the investment in the reduction of Green House Gases.
Problem is that the Climate Change deniers will always try to nitpick on the carbon tax that even Harper was in favour of.
So cash grab is the usual bs touted by these deniers.

What is the benefit to us of reduced (maybe but not likely) greenhouse gases?

 

[Butler1000]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/poll-abacus-carbon-tax-1.4603824

Seems like 60% of Canadians still support more more govt action to reduce emissions.

Ask them how much they are willing to PAY. And whether they trust them not to divert the funds..

 

[Frankfooter]

What is the benefit to us of reduced (maybe but not likely) greenhouse gases?

Less damage from extreme weather events.
Less crop failure.

Those costs will outweigh any carbon taxes.

 

[K Douglas]

Less damage from extreme weather events.
Less crop failure.

Those costs will outweigh any carbon taxes.

Wrong answer. No proof of that. In fact more CO2 in atmosphere is a proven benefit for crop growing. And the height of global extreme weather events occurred during the Little Ice Age when it was much colder than today.

You're talking out of your ass frankie.

 

[nottyboi]

What is the benefit to us of reduced (maybe but not likely) greenhouse gases?

What is the benefit of us keeping a military force? We are part of a community of nations that has decided to act, so we have to go along with our partners. I don't believe too much in the science behind global warming myself, but the benefits are a reduction in all the other poisons that are emitted with CO2. Also it will create jobs.

 

[nottyboi]

The Liberals don't have a plan nor understand what impacts the carbon tax will have on the environment.
All they know is how much they can bank on collecting.
One doesn't have to do with the other which is the problem.

This is not about climate change being real or not. It's about a cash grab that they themselves can't explain.

All this was done with the best advice of experts and partners in climate and air quality leaders like the State of California. We owe a HUGE debt to forward thinking states like California for the clean air we enjoy today. Go to a country without emissions controls and take a deep breath. Suck it in...feel the burn in your eyes...

 

[nottyboi]

Ask them how much they are willing to PAY. And whether they trust them not to divert the funds..

Many are already paying and don't even know it. Even you had no idea the cap in trade is already in place and you are foaming at the mouth about its coming implementation. lol All Wynne has to say is there will be no carbon tax implemented in Ontario because what is already in place meets the requirements of potential Federal legislation.