Court filings imply that Trump got Stormy Daniels pregnant and she had an abortion
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You like making YUGE, unsubstantiated jumps, don't you?Ah a TERBite member of Right to Life?
You I suppose ardently supported Bill C-43 in 1989.
Please feel free to start a thread about these important issues...so that we can ignore it appropriately...Hahahahaha.Funny that no thread mentioned the latest job numbers or that the unions are coming on board or that Pelosi walked back her "crumbs" comments. Just a bunch of low information posters indulging in their fantasies. Sad.
Oh so this isn't a matter of belief, ethics, and morals, but rather it was merely a political shot?You like making YUGE, unsubstantiated jumps, don't you?
Man, you've got a vivid imagination.Oh so this isn't a matter of belief, ethics, and morals, but rather it was merely a political shot?
Don't knock him for that, it is all he has.Man, you've got a vivid imagination.
Considering the language you used is the same language anti abortion activists use I'd say it was a fair assessment.You like making YUGE, unsubstantiated jumps, don't you?
Amazing how you guys are actually condemning Trump for banging a porn star. You'd be high giving anyone else.
Please elaborate...Considering the language you used is the same language anti abortion activists use I'd say it was a fair assessment.
And if it had been Obama all of you Right Wing dudes would have been screaming for impeachment just like you did with Clinton. There would be no Mulligans given!Amazing how you guys are actually condemning Trump for banging a porn star. You'd be high giving anyone else.
Butler and Asrdvark were correct...You sound like a Right Wing Pro-Lifer. If that’s what you believe then fine...Not sure why you’re arguing over it.Please elaborate...
Really... because I referred to an unborn child as a sibling?Butler and Asrdvark were correct...You sound like a Right Wing Pro-Lifer. If that’s what you believe then fine...Not sure why you’re arguing over it.
You're off your rocker.
You refer to a fetus as a child and talk about “killing” it. That’s Pro-Life terminology. I still don’t understand why you’re arguing about this.Really... because I referred to an unborn child as a sibling?
You're off your rocker.
If you’re opposed to abortion then so be it. I don’t care...be opposed.
Not over a ten year old affair no.And if it had been Obama all of you Right Wing dudes would have been screaming for impeachment just like you did with Clinton. There would be no Mulligans given!
In the white house maybe. Depends on the circumstances.
Just like with Clinton, its all about the coverup.Not over a ten year old affair no.
In the white house maybe. Depends on the circumstances.
Yes and no, e.g. lying to the FBI, perjuring yourself in a court proceeding -- all bad in a criminal sense. Lying through your teeth to a reporter, your mistress, the people on the White House tour -- all may in the long term be politically disastrous but they aren't going to get you into criminal troubleJust like with Clinton, its all about the coverup.
There is the question about the $130,000. Were they deducted in an IRS filing? Where did the money come from?Yes and no, e.g. lying to the FBI, perjuring yourself in a court proceeding -- all bad in a criminal sense. Lying through your teeth to a reporter, your mistress, the people on the White House tour -- all may in the long term be politically disastrous but they aren't going to get you into criminal trouble
It wouldn’t matter how long ago the affair was...and if there was any suspicion that Obama violated campaign finance laws through a $130 K NDA the Tea Partiers woulda been burning Crosses on the White House lawn.Not over a ten year old affair no.
In the white house maybe. Depends on the circumstances.
...And if there was even a hint that Obama had a mistress who had an abortion...OMFG!!!!! The Right Wingers would be rioting in the streets!!!!!
NYT has a good story.
This assumes that Trump now has in his possession pics, texts, etc from Daniels.
Hmmm.
And there's this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/09/opinion/stormy-daniels-trump-cohen.htmlNorman Eisen, the chairman of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and Barack Obama’s former ethics czar, points out another potential violation on Trump’s part. He calls it the “Al Capone problem.” The Daniels NDA refers repeatedly to “property” that she agreed to turn over to Trump, including video images, still images, emails and text messages. Eisen argues that Trump was required to report ownership of this property, as well as any obligations he might have had to reimburse Cohen for the $130,000, in his federal financial disclosure forms.
“The asset here is this incredibly valuable agreement with Stormy,” Eisen told me. “Imagine what she could get if she has texts or images. Imagine the millions she could command! So there’s this incredibly valuable agreement, and the L.L.C., Essential Consultants, which Trump now appears to be a beneficiary of. That’s an asset.” But it’s an asset Trump didn’t reveal.
Finally, the Daniels story is germane to the overriding scandal of the Trump administration, the one involving Trump’s relationship with Russia. Christopher Steele, the British ex-spy who compiled an infamous dossier of opposition research on Trump, wrote that Russia could blackmail Trump with evidence of his “sexual perversion.” Nothing we know of Daniels confirms the dossier’s outré claims about what such perversion entailed. The NDA does, however, show that Trump was susceptible to blackmail.
Indeed, Daniels isn’t the only woman who was allegedly paid off after an encounter with Trump. The former Playboy model Karen McDougal, who claims she had an affair with Trump, was paid $150,000 by a media company closely aligned with the president, which quashed her story. Steve Bannon told “Fire and Fury” author Michael Wolff that another Trump lawyer, Marc Kasowitz, “took care” of “a hundred women” during the campaign.
This assumes that Trump now has in his possession pics, texts, etc from Daniels.
Hmmm.
And there's this:
Ultimately, the details of Trump’s relationship with Daniels will likely come out. David Super, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center, told me he was surprised by how legally strong Daniels’s lawsuit seems, due to the way the original NDA was written. “Any halfway competent lawyer could have drafted the contract so that he didn’t need to sign it,” Super said of Cohen and Trump. “But they didn’t do it that way.”
Should Daniels prevail in court, we might learn interesting information about the president. Among other things, the NDA forbids her from discussing Trump’s “alleged children” or “paternity information.” But the scandal will lie less in the details of Trump’s degeneracy than in the steps he and his lawyers took to cover it up. “This is early days yet in the unfolding of this scandal,” said Eisen. Like Trump himself, it’s preposterous, but it’s not going away.
It doesn't particularly matter where the money came from the FEC is not going to seek a jail sentence for this. Now a Federal Income Tax deduction (which I highly doubt would have been taken) could lead to criminal tax problems, but really only if it could be proven that it was taken in a knowing attempt to defraud, otherwise if a good argument can be made for it, is merely even if it went all the way to a trial, going to result in a tax penalty.
