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rhuarc29 said:
Drugs are also an option, though from what I've seen I'd consider them a last resort, as they have just as much chance of making things worse as making things better.
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Rather foolish advice. That decision is best left to a doctor or mental health professional, and entirely dependent on the state of the person under assessment.

SSRI's and similar drugs are used to help stabilize people suffering acute mental health crises, etc; the worst thing you can do is refuse treatment if a doctor believes it is in your best interest, or dissuade others from accepting treatment themselves.
 
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legmann said:
Rather foolish advice. That decision is best left to a doctor or medical health professional, and entirely dependent on the state of the person under assessment.

SSRI's and similar drugs are used to help stabilize people suffering acute mental health crises, etc; the worst thing you can do is refuse treatment if a doctor believes it is in your best interest, or dissuade others from accepting treatment themselves.
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Which is why I said drugs are an option, though usually a last resort because they have side effects that other options do not. The priority for long-term benefit is behavioural changes --> counseling --> drugs. I believe most doctors would agree with that, don't you think?
If you're talking about immediate danger of suicidal intentions, the priority shifts to counseling (usually via phone, but some places offer immediate counsel in-person) and often drugs in quick succession. The negative effects of taking drugs short-term are often negligible.
I don't claim to be a medical professional, but anyone starting a thread on TERB soliciting advice on medical matters already knows this.
 
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There was a guy on here who adopted a stray cat. He said it saved his life.
 
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rhuarc29 said:
True. A pet can be a huge lifeline for certain people, particularly those lacking socialization and responsibility.
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I'm sure having a pet can be a great emotional benefit for a lonley or troubled person in the long term. But I think the OP needs immediate help because of some acute, immediate problems.

 
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shakenbake said:
Good advice. As long as the physician will do his/her job.
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And that my friends is the big kicker. Most doctors don't have your best interest in mind, most doctors are puppets to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. They're fine making chincy diagnosis because they are not taking the risk. If I had followed through on the neurologist's recommendation I would have become a line from a Max Webster song.

Ahhh you should be down under, pushing up wheat for the hungry.
 
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Insidious Von said:
And that my friends is the big kicker. Most doctors don't have your best interest in mind, most doctors are puppets to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. They're fine making chincy diagnosis because they are not taking the risk. If I had followed through on the neurologist's recommendation I would have become a line from a Max Webster song.

Ahhh you should be down under, pushing up wheat for the hungry.
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Terrible advice. Most doctors will help you. Doctors in Ontario have minimal involvement with “insurance companies “. OHIP is the only insurance company that docs usually bill in Ontario (except for workers comp/ disability cases).

Meds can help severe depression tho in my own experience talk type therapy is essential as well. Serious suicidal thoughts are a medical emergency, go see an actual doctor. ASAP. Good luck to the op.
 
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Insidious Von said:
And that my friends is the big kicker. Most doctors don't have your best interest in mind, most doctors are puppets to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. They're fine making chincy diagnosis because they are not taking the risk. If I had followed through on the neurologist's recommendation I would have become a line from a Max Webster song.

Ahhh you should be down under, pushing up wheat for the hungry.
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Ignoring someone who complains about depression and suicidal urges and not hospitalizing them is a quick ticket to a HUGE malpractice suit and discipline against the doctor if the patient subsequently kills or injures himself. Docs JUMP when you tell them you are suicidal. They don't want to be sued.
 
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oagre said:
Ignoring someone who complains about depression and suicidal urges and not hospitalizing them is a quick ticket to a HUGE malpractice suit and discipline against the doctor if the patient subsequently kills or injures himself. Docs JUMP when you tell them you are suicidal. They don't want to be sued.
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It's was not depression, it was a severe concussion from a car accident. The neurologist figured that with feeling returning to my fingers I could return to work. I thought he was full of shit.
 
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For anyone who is super depressed, I'm not a doctor and have never been depressed. So I can't give any recos what to do or medicine to take to make you feel better.

However, one reco I have is this:

If you are going to do something major, violent, or suicidal, do it to yourself. Don't inflict harm on anyone else.
 
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oagre said:
Ignoring someone who complains about depression and suicidal urges and not hospitalizing them is a quick ticket to a HUGE malpractice suit and discipline against the doctor if the patient subsequently kills or injures himself. Docs JUMP when you tell them you are suicidal. They don't want to be sued.
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Suspect some docs don’t want patients to die either. Just sayin’.
 
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As a sexual abuse/rape victim as a child I suffer greatly from depression and have been diagnosed with PTSD. Suicidal thoughts cross my mind from time to time. I have very "dark" days at times where I don't want/ can't be around people.
I have been in therapy over the years which has helped. I'm not sure though if I could do it. I struggle with it daily my depression but I have 8 little angels ( grandchildren) who would be devastated if I wasn't there for them. That's my saving grace.
 
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johnhenrygalt said:
I joined a gym and started again lifting heavy weights. Regular cycling, running, cross-country skiing helps too. And fucking, lots of fucking. I never took any medication. Don't forget clean healthy eating. Many cases of depression have their root in physical health issues.
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Just do the fucking, and fuck the workout.
 
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spankingman said:
As a sexual abuse/rape victim as a child I suffer greatly from depression and have been diagnosed with PTSD. Suicidal thoughts cross my mind from time to time. I have very "dark" days at times where I don't want/ can't be around people.
I have been in therapy over the years which has helped. I'm not sure though if I could do it. I struggle with it daily my depression but I have 8 little angels ( grandchildren) who would be devastated if I wasn't there for them. That's my saving grace.
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What meds do you take? I strongly recommend you do some hydrotherapy or aquafit followed by a good sauna. It saved my ass during my most overcast days, I felt like a new man afterwards.

 
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