A Bombshell House Intelligence report exposing extensive FISA abuse.....

Butler1000

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Bullshit sir, Steele went on a mission to publicize the memo after the dem funding was ended and he thought the material needed to be known.
He did it as his civil service.
No. He had already been paid. He failed to get the media to bite. That's why he leaked to Buzzfeed.

He was only fulfilling what he paid to do. A hack job on Trump. He just did such a shitty job they wouldn't go for it.

Again...explain why the press wouldn't and won't report and analyze the contents of the dossier?
 

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No. He had already been paid.
Yes, he had be paid, that's what I said.
But he kept working on the dossier on his own money and personally tried to publicize it because he was so worried about what he found out.

It was his moral duty to report that Russians were trying to manipulate the election and might have had dirt/money on Trump.
 

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Yes, he had be paid, that's what I said.
But he kept working on the dossier on his own money and personally tried to publicize it because he was so worried about what he found out.

It was his moral duty to report that Russians were trying to manipulate the election and might have had dirt/money on Trump.
Well thats a nice story there. The great mercenary patriot.......

Who refuses to testify under oath or even set foot in the usa. Who is now discredited by the fbi.

Who took money to gather dirt.

The very nature of his being a foreigner doing this is an illegal act. Don't you get that?

That's funny.
 

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Author of Nunes Memo Tried to Meet With Christopher Steele Last Year and Failed:

The man believed to have authored most of the Nunes surveillance memo reportedly attempted to meet with ex-MI6 spy Christopher Steele last summer but was twice rebuffed in his efforts.

According to a Friday report in the New York Times, Kashyap Patel wrote most of the recently-released memo attributed to Representative Devin Nunes (R-CA).

Prior to writing his portion–believed to be the majority–of the controversial surveillance memo, Patel traveled to London in order to force a meeting with Steele.

Patel and another congressional staffer were apparently “dispatched” by Nunes to show up, unannounced, at Steele’s office building. And, that’s apparently what they did. When someone at the office building explained that Steele wasn’t in at the moment, Patel and his partner, Douglas E. Presley, somehow learned their British charge was actually at his lawyer’s office that day.

The frustrated duo then showed up at said lawyer’s office and made their case for an audience with the Aden-born ex-spy. Patel and Presley were left high and dry, however, as Steele’s attorney declined the request to subject their client to the two Americans. Then, Presley and Patel simply left.

(It’s not presently clear what happened to the two world travelers–or what they drank, if anything–immediately after being doubly shut down by the British while in pursuit of Steele that day.)

An anonymous Republican member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence said, when questioned by the New York Times, that the purpose of Patel’s trip was actually to “make contact” with Steele’s lawyers–and not Steele himself–a statement which seems to function as post facto gloss to suggest the Patel-Presley mission was actually accomplished.

In any event, the bizarre hunt for Steele last summer is said to have been a breach of congressional and/or diplomatic protocol. Traditionally, a visit like Patel’s–that is, a House staffer being dispatched to corner an ex-spy and/or their attorney(s)–would be coordinated with the help of counsel and with the knowledge of House Democrats and the American Embassy.

Very very strange!!

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...with-christopher-steele-last-year-and-failed/
 

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Author of Nunes Memo Tried to Meet With Christopher Steele Last Year and Failed:

The man believed to have authored most of the Nunes surveillance memo reportedly attempted to meet with ex-MI6 spy Christopher Steele last summer but was twice rebuffed in his efforts.

According to a Friday report in the New York Times, Kashyap Patel wrote most of the recently-released memo attributed to Representative Devin Nunes (R-CA).

Prior to writing his portion–believed to be the majority–of the controversial surveillance memo, Patel traveled to London in order to force a meeting with Steele.

Patel and another congressional staffer were apparently “dispatched” by Nunes to show up, unannounced, at Steele’s office building. And, that’s apparently what they did. When someone at the office building explained that Steele wasn’t in at the moment, Patel and his partner, Douglas E. Presley, somehow learned their British charge was actually at his lawyer’s office that day.

The frustrated duo then showed up at said lawyer’s office and made their case for an audience with the Aden-born ex-spy. Patel and Presley were left high and dry, however, as Steele’s attorney declined the request to subject their client to the two Americans. Then, Presley and Patel simply left.

(It’s not presently clear what happened to the two world travelers–or what they drank, if anything–immediately after being doubly shut down by the British while in pursuit of Steele that day.)

An anonymous Republican member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence said, when questioned by the New York Times, that the purpose of Patel’s trip was actually to “make contact” with Steele’s lawyers–and not Steele himself–a statement which seems to function as post facto gloss to suggest the Patel-Presley mission was actually accomplished.

In any event, the bizarre hunt for Steele last summer is said to have been a breach of congressional and/or diplomatic protocol. Traditionally, a visit like Patel’s–that is, a House staffer being dispatched to corner an ex-spy and/or their attorney(s)–would be coordinated with the help of counsel and with the knowledge of House Democrats and the American Embassy.

Very very strange!!

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...with-christopher-steele-last-year-and-failed/
He should be Supeonaed.
 

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interesting read Bver. here's another interesting article from that source

Adam Schiff Might Have Released Classified Information in Attempt to Rebut Nunes Memo


Representative Adam Schiff (D-CA) appears to be openly disclosing classified information to the news media–after weeks of complaining about Republican plans to disclose such information.

Per a report by CNN on Saturday, Schiff, the ranking member on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (“HPSCI”) told multiple reporters on Friday that the central claim of the Nunes surveillance memo was “unfounded.”

The Nunes surveillance memo relies upon the following thesis: that FBI and DOJ officials within the Obama administration made substantial and material omissions–rising to the level of perhaps unlawful misrepresentations–in front of a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (“FISA Court”) in order to obtain a surveillance warrant on Donald Trump‘s former campaign volunteer, Carter Page. The memo itself spells out those alleged omissions and reads, in part:

Neither the initial [FISA] application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior and FBI officials.

But after the controversial memo was released on Friday, Schiff took multiple reporters by the hand and offered his insight into those allegations against high-level officials within the Department of Justice (“DOJ”) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) by dismissing them in whole.

Those insights cut to the heart of the Nunes memo’s claims. Namely, Schiff noted, via both a press release and comments to reporters, that the memo’s claims regarding Christopher Steele‘s political motivations were “not accurate.” Schiff’s press release reads, in part:

The Majority suggests that the FBI failed to alert the court as to Mr. Steele’s potential political motivations or the political motivations of those who hired him, but this is not accurate.

In comments to reporters, Schiff later said that Steele’s “likely political motivation” was made aware to the FISA Court–again, a direct contradiction of the Nunes surveillance memo’s allegations.

But in the performance of Schiff’s schtick–protecting the nation’s largely unaccountable intelligence agencies from any sort of oversight–Schiff may have released classified information himself.

Now, the initial press release, on its own, likely isn’t enough to rise to the level of releasing classified information. Schiff’s lengthy rebuttal more or less just says that Devin Nunes’ memo is wrong and is light on details. But his later comments to reporters–where he told reporters that Steele’s “likely political motivation” was revealed to the FISA Court–do appear to reveal distinct information, potentially classified information.

Recall: the Nunes memo was only released after President Donald Trump declassified the much-ballyhooed document. What Trump did not do, however, was de-classify the underlying FISA warrant application. It would appear that Schiff has revealed information from that underlying application by attempting to discredit the Nunes memo.

As with any controversy involving America’s secret court system–FISA–and classified information, generally, it’s hard to nail this down completely. Attorney Mark Zaid, who has handled multiple cases involving such information said, in comments to the Washington Examiner:

At first blush I would have some concerns about the details in this statement as to whether it crosses a classification line, but it is possible Rep. Schiff, having had access to the underlying classified information, knows these points are in unclassified paragraphs. So much of these back-and-forths about the memo are in a gray area on classification.

Grey is certainly the color of the day. Both for its uncertainty and the overwhelming sense of meh.

Recall again: The Nunes surveillance memo was widely trumpeted before its release by the #MAGA set and many congressional Republicans as damning evidence viz. alleged FISA abuses. Conversely, the FBI, as well as the DOJ and other members of the intelligence community warned the memo’s release would endanger national security. The Democratic Party fully embraced and echoed the concerns of the intelligence community, savaging the memo’s release as “dangerous,” and a violation of House rules–in addition to their Chicken Little-like cries about endangering national security.

In reality, none of the above claims were true. Republicans mislead about the memo’s significance–most of the information is public knowledge. While Democrats, the FBI, DOJ, and others in the intelligence community all-but outright lied as to the alleged dangerousness of the memo’s contents–no one has yet to offer any plausible reason America’s national security was endangered by it.

Democrats are quite loudly preparing their own counter-memo to the Nunes surveillance memo in order to dispute the claims contained in the original, but the tactics employed by some Democrats in attempting to bat down the Nunes memo’s significance are ironically looking like nothing more than a messier, aped version of exactly what Democrats have been accusing the memo’s boosters of doing for so long now: releasing (over) classified information.
 

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A little somthing from the Wall Street Journal

A Reckoning for the FBI
The House memo reveals disturbing facts about the misuse of FISA.
The upcoming Inspector General report should shed some more light on top of the damning texts that are already in the open.
 

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The upcoming Inspector General report should shed some more light on top of the damning texts that are already in the open.
Cue the next conspiracy theory about 'secret meetings' for the next calendar.
Sigh.

Trump is going off the deep end again on twitter.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-schiff-and-senior-obama-intelligence-figures

Sounds like he's really panicking.
First, he pushed the memo saying it exonerated him before he read it.
Now that everybody realizes its bullshit, he's just trying to push harder.
Hilarious.
 

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Time has published a letter in which Carter Page bragged about being an advisor to the Kremlin.

Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page bragged that he was an adviser to the Kremlin in a letter obtained by TIME that raises new questions about the extent of Page’s contacts with the Russian government over the years.

The letter, dated Aug. 25, 2013, was sent by Page to an academic press during a dispute over edits to an unpublished manuscript he had submitted for publication, according to an editor who worked with Page.

“Over the past half year, I have had the privilege to serve as an informal advisor to the staff of the Kremlin in preparation for their Presidency of the G-20 Summit next month, where energy issues will be a prominent point on the agenda,” the letter reads.
http://time.com/5132126/carter-page-russia-2013-letter/

Reason enough for a FISA warrant?
 

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Cue the next conspiracy theory about 'secret meetings' for the next calendar.
Sigh.

Trump is going off the deep end again on twitter.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-schiff-and-senior-obama-intelligence-figures

Sounds like he's really panicking.
First, he pushed the memo saying it exonerated him before he read it.
Now that everybody realizes its bullshit, he's just trying to push harder.
Hilarious.
The released texts don't require any "pushing", only honest reporting as they speak for themselves.
 

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Who knows?
Most of that is still quite secret.

All we know so far is that the Trump piss dossier wasn't the basis of the Carter Page warrant, his surveillance of which started in 2013.
So that post is useless to the conversation as an example.

But if you want to play that game here is one.

The Podesta group worked for Paul Manaforte in Ukraine on behalf of the Russians for propaganda assistance. The same John Podesta who ran the Clinton Campaign.

So why weren't Fisa warrants issued there? If consulting for the Russia qualifies?
 

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So that post is useless to the conversation as an example.
Not at all, all it shows is there is plenty of evidence of Carter Page's links to Russia and reasons for him to be under surveillance, as the dems have stated, as well as ex-head of CIA.

Nunes is a known liar, he just went on tv and lied again, claiming that Trump never met Papadopolous.
That's really stupid as there is a photo released by the Trump campaign that talks about the meeting where Papadopolous discussed Russians with info on Clinton.
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/5/16973936/nunes-memo-trump-george-papadopoulos

Nunes is a liar.
Pretty much sums it up.
 

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Meanwhile the Special Counsel Investigation that the Little Fingers Vulgarian caused to be in existence to investigate Little Fingers Trump continues inch by inch, step by step, closer and closer to indicting the very fool of a man who he created it.

2 delicious scoops of ice cream on Trump's irony pie.
 

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Not at all, all it shows is there is plenty of evidence of Carter Page's links to Russia and reasons for him to be under surveillance, as the dems have stated, as well as ex-head of CIA.

Nunes is a known liar, he just went on tv and lied again, claiming that Trump never met Papadopolous.
That's really stupid as there is a photo released by the Trump campaign that talks about the meeting where Papadopolous discussed Russians with info on Clinton.
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/5/16973936/nunes-memo-trump-george-papadopoulos

Nunes is a liar.
Pretty much sums it up.
Nunes is a traitor willing to assist Putin in dismembering the FBI spy monitoring capabilities and keeping their controlled selected groomed buffoon (Trump) in office. It is interesting to note that Russian bots flooded the social media urging the release of Nunes memo. The Russians are going full tilt to keep Trump in - I guess deep down inside they are USA patriots (duh).
 

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Meanwhile the Special Counsel Investigation that the Little Fingers Vulgarian caused to be in existence to investigate Little Fingers Trump continues inch by inch, step by step, closer and closer to indicting the very fool of a man who he created it.

2 delicious scoops of ice cream on Trump's irony pie.
LOL!! Meanwhile in the real world, another paper trail surfaced in which the Clintons fed info to Steele. Stand by for more.
 
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