CupidsEscorts Tweets a Client's Information
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Wow. That’s fucked.
Both acts are inexcusable, but I think I side with the Cupid’s here over the ultimate importance of discouraging this behaviour from happening again. From this guy or any other.
Both acts are inexcusable, but I think I side with the Cupid’s here over the ultimate importance of discouraging this behaviour from happening again. From this guy or any other.
ElementumSpa says they found his Facebook and LinkedIn with that information.
I suppose if he is a client of other places they may have his full name and full address just like Cupids does.
I wonder where things go from here,
No kidding both sides are idiots.
So much for escort places saying.... "don't worry everyone, we don't keep personal info".
The biggest BS out there. And in this case even worse doing a Tweet.
If Cupids wants to keep this info about an asshole client amongst their industry (share it among other agencies and owners) that's fine I guess, but to share the whole world, that's stupid.
That would be like me telling the whole world a certain indie I saw ages ago was lousy (which she was), and me telling the world her real name and phone number and city, which she didn't realize because she had her cell phone to accidentally show her real personal info on call display.
Apparently "Mongrel" "Gene Kelly" tried to force an SP to give him BBFS. Would that kind of behavior warrant your personal info being tweeted out?
Exactly, what's next as the line shifts? A misunderstanding and client is outed on twitter. There is a tweet of a lawyer explaining the legality of releasing someone's private information and the agency is possibly liable for doing so.
There's another thread about this which didn't mention any of the details. So I guess if it was an outcall to the guy's home, his name and address are pretty much confirmed.
I don't think tweeting the guy's info was the best decision by Cupids though. If it was an alleged assault get the police involved. I think that publicly tweeting personal information crosses a line in the absence of a proper investigation.
To play Devil's advocate: Anybody who's been around this activity for a while has heard stories of BBFS being offered. Eg: Without mentioning names - there was a very well known (and well reviewed) SP who worked for a reputable agency, who late in her career was widely rumoured to offer this regularly (I heard from one of her agency partners who would no longer do duos with her because of this) . Only a complete fool would be interested but it does happen. What if a provider offered BBFS for a fee, the client agreed, then he stiffed her for the extra fee? So for revenge, the provider tells the agency that he stealthed her. Note: I am NOT saying this happened or has ever happened - but it COULD happen and shows why it is dangerous to only take one side.
Taking matters into their own hands has got to be a LAST resort. So I hope that Cupids first tried to do the right thing (which would be calling the police, getting the SP to hospital, and most importantly - making sure she gets all the necessary tests for STD's, etc).
I don't think tweeting the guy's info was the best decision by Cupids though. If it was an alleged assault get the police involved. I think that publicly tweeting personal information crosses a line in the absence of a proper investigation.
To play Devil's advocate: Anybody who's been around this activity for a while has heard stories of BBFS being offered. Eg: Without mentioning names - there was a very well known (and well reviewed) SP who worked for a reputable agency, who late in her career was widely rumoured to offer this regularly (I heard from one of her agency partners who would no longer do duos with her because of this) . Only a complete fool would be interested but it does happen. What if a provider offered BBFS for a fee, the client agreed, then he stiffed her for the extra fee? So for revenge, the provider tells the agency that he stealthed her. Note: I am NOT saying this happened or has ever happened - but it COULD happen and shows why it is dangerous to only take one side.
Taking matters into their own hands has got to be a LAST resort. So I hope that Cupids first tried to do the right thing (which would be calling the police, getting the SP to hospital, and most importantly - making sure she gets all the necessary tests for STD's, etc).
Although I think most times there’s a grey area, if true, this is no grey area here.
I would like to offer that we don’t know the full story and to share an experience I had that I never thought possible.
This girl and I were high and totally into it. The condom was on and then through a few changes I went at it again. After finishing I noticed it was off.
I apologized profusely but we do trust each other and have had BBFS in the past. I really didn’t think it was possible but it did slip off as my dick does transition from hard to semi-hard and wirery if there isn’t enough attention. I was into it obviously and not fully aware of my situation.
Not saying it was in this case, just that I never thought it would happen without me noticing.
I’ve never come close to this before, especially sober and would never want to have unprotected sex unless it was with a long time trusting partner.
I would assume that this story was a deliberate one, but why would you and why especially if it was an outcall to your own home? Seems like it was a regular as well so something doesn’t quite fit.
I would like to offer that we don’t know the full story and to share an experience I had that I never thought possible.
This girl and I were high and totally into it. The condom was on and then through a few changes I went at it again. After finishing I noticed it was off.
I apologized profusely but we do trust each other and have had BBFS in the past. I really didn’t think it was possible but it did slip off as my dick does transition from hard to semi-hard and wirery if there isn’t enough attention. I was into it obviously and not fully aware of my situation.
Not saying it was in this case, just that I never thought it would happen without me noticing.
I’ve never come close to this before, especially sober and would never want to have unprotected sex unless it was with a long time trusting partner.
I would assume that this story was a deliberate one, but why would you and why especially if it was an outcall to your own home? Seems like it was a regular as well so something doesn’t quite fit.
I’m conflicted about how this particular incident was handled, but a bigger issue that worries me is that there seems to be a kind of bubble chamber culture developing on Twitter where some SPs are more open to posting client information than they used to be.
For example, a few months ago, a reasonably well-known Ottawa independent SP posted a client’s real name and phone number to Twitter just because he had been a no-show two times in a row. I get it, she was angry, but she also could have destroyed this man’s career.
Once this kind of culture starts developing, screening is going to get harder because everyone is going to be paranoid about being outed. And it undermines trust in general... if this kind of info sometimes gets tossed around on Twitter, it makes the mind wonder what kind of information about clients is being tossed around between SPs in slightly less public forums, like private multi-person chat services, where info could easily be leaked by any disgruntled participant.
For example, a few months ago, a reasonably well-known Ottawa independent SP posted a client’s real name and phone number to Twitter just because he had been a no-show two times in a row. I get it, she was angry, but she also could have destroyed this man’s career.
Once this kind of culture starts developing, screening is going to get harder because everyone is going to be paranoid about being outed. And it undermines trust in general... if this kind of info sometimes gets tossed around on Twitter, it makes the mind wonder what kind of information about clients is being tossed around between SPs in slightly less public forums, like private multi-person chat services, where info could easily be leaked by any disgruntled participant.
No kidding.
And when those threads pop up about SPs and agencies wanting personal info and references, that's why I never give in to those BS tactics. I do outcalls, so they already know my house and phone number. That's enough for them to know I'm a legit outcaller waiting for them to arrive.
All that BS like..... please enter your company of employment, job title, work phone number, personal email, various SP references etc..... who the fuck wants to give that out.
An SP won't even give out her real first name 99% of the time (if you get to know they will.... assuming that second name is even truthful), and they expect a client to give out personal home and work details?
There's a lot more to lose for a normal joe client with a house and steady job, than SPs who nobody even knows who they are, or anything since everything is staged. Avg joe with a job can get screwed over with personal info getting messed with. SPs disappear from the industry all the time and nobody knows where they go, or where they work.
Good point.
I am less worried about semi private industry pages because the information is not widespread and available to the general public.
You can say "its understandable" all you want, because what the guy did was terrible...but regardless, I will never book with cupids ever again. I dont think any of us should. This should literally NEVER be justified. IMO even if something terrible happens (and there really isnt even proof here in all likelihood), they should work it out with the client and the police if necessary, or even in pm's to other agencies. I cant accept this, and will forever not book with this agency, sorry.
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