Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital, defying allies and foes

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The rumours are that Kushner was working on a peace plan with Saudi Arabia, but it was one that Palestinians would never have taken anyways.
From what I've read this announcement just killed that plan.

Claiming Jerusalem for Israel is a war crime, clearly stated as against UN SC 2334 passed last Dec. What it will do is kill the farce of the two state solution at the same time the ICC is working on laying charges on Israel.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...rogress-in-prosecuting-israel-for-war-crimes/

That timing is really stupid.
It is not a war crime. That is absurd. As I have said earlier I believe it was a mistake intended only to appeal to his base and Jewish and evangelical voters and donors. Shortsighted.
 

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Putin is looking to protect his money. He wants to get rid of the Magnitzky act.
 

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Regardless of ones views on the legitimacy of the various UN resolutions and you can probably guess mine moving the embassy, a decision which I have stated that I disagree with. is not a war crime.

The ultimate disposition of Jerusalem will be determined by negotiation. and compromise.
 

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Why any POTUS would waste time and political capital on Peace in Palestine is beyond me. The last time they got close the Jews killed their PM.
 

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The rumours are that Kushner was working on a peace plan with Saudi Arabia, but it was one that Palestinians would never have taken anyways....
Of course not because a peace plan would mean the Palestinians would have to accept Israel's continued existence.
 

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Of course not because a peace plan would mean the Palestinians would have to accept Israel's continued existence.
And Israel would have to give Palestinians some land and Netanyahu said that won't happen.
Which leaves us still with apartheid.
 

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What land has the US invaded?

Oh sorry. I forgot that you are simply looking for an excuse to justify more attacks on Israelis.
Still trying to justify more war crimes?
US embassy relocation to Jerusalem 'a war crime'
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...tion-jerusalem-war-crime-170129072749859.html


By the way, here's a good article on what researchers have really found out about Jerusalem's history.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/archa...sh-dialogue-in-jerusalem-from-1300-years-ago/
 

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Still trying to justify more war crimes?...
A US "war crime" according to an AJ op/ed.

So why are you supporting attacks on Israel over it?

By the way, here's a good article on what researchers have really found out about Jerusalem's history.
So why do violent Palestinian factions like Hamas still oppose Jews in Jerusalem?
 

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A US "war crime" according to an AJ op/ed.

So why are you supporting attacks on Israel over it?


So why do violent Palestinian factions like Hamas still oppose Jews in Jerusalem?
I don't support attacks by anyone.
Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupation, but I only support non-violent moves like BDS and going to the ICC.

So why do you support the much, much, more violent factions in government in Israel who oppose Palestinians in Jerusalem?
 

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I don't support attacks by anyone....
Fraud. Just today you are still supporting a bunch of kids being attacked by Palestinians for walking in the West Bank.

You continually justify Hamas/Palestinian violence like the rockets fired from Gaza this week and Hamas calling for violence, both because of a US action that changes nothing in Israel.
 

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So why do you support the much, much, more violent factions in government in Israel who oppose Palestinians in Jerusalem?
Sorry but which Israeli political parties have their own private armies like Hamas and Islamic Jihad?

Unlike with the Palestinians, Israel is a democracy.
 

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Fraud. Just today you are still supporting a bunch of kids being attacked by Palestinians for walking in the West Bank.
I'm calling you out for lying.
First you supported the murder of a Palestinian civilian and now you accuse me of being the one to support attacks on civilians?
You sir, are a lying hasbara troll more interested in the support of apartheid rule then the truth.
 

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Sorry but which Israeli political parties have their own private armies like Hamas and Islamic Jihad?

Unlike with the Palestinians, Israel is a democracy.
Which side has killed 700 children since 2009?
Who has killed more civilians in that time frame, Israeli forces or Hamas and/or Islamic Jihad.

Please show me the numbers that tell us who is the more violent.
 

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Which side has killed 700 children since 2009?
Who has killed more civilians in that time frame, Israeli forces or Hamas and/or Islamic Jihad.

Please show me the numbers that tell us who is the more violent.
Number of people killed by violence:

----------------------Israelis-------------Palestinians
2006.....................23........................665
2007.....................19........................385
2008.....................35........................887
2009......................9.......................1034
2010......................8..........................70
2011………………….11………..……….…..118
2012…………………..0…………………………74
 

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Number of people killed by violence:

----------------------Israelis-------------Palestinians
2006.....................23........................665
2007.....................19........................385
2008.....................35........................887
2009......................9.......................1034
2010......................8..........................70
2011………………….11………..……….…..118
2012…………………..0…………………………74
Violence initiated by who,... ???
 

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A US "war crime" according to an AJ op/ed.

So why are you supporting attacks on Israel over it?


So why do violent Palestinian factions like Hamas still oppose Jews in Jerusalem?
The same reason violent factions in Israel support and form illegal settlements. They are fanatics and there will always be some.
 

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Violence initiated by who,... ???
Thats difficult to say. If an Israeli bomb killed a mans children and he goes and kills an Israeli Jew, who initiated the violence in your opinion?
 

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Thats difficult to say. If an Israeli bomb killed a mans children and he goes and kills an Israeli Jew, who initiated the violence in your opinion?
Not complicated at all,... Hamas initiated attacks/violence,... Israel responded.
 
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