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Al Franken has resigned

Frankfooter

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You are correct, but I don't see it as a winning strategy for the Dems.

I don't think they will gain a single vote based on their stance on this issue.

Just look at 1 year ago. Trump was a pig (I know that's an insult to all the 4 legged variety of pigs out there, but I'm speaking metaphorically here) 1 year ago. Everyone knew it. But to his followers, they didn't care. They still voted for him. They will continue to vote for him.

I don't see the DEMS gaining votes based on the "moral highground". People are sick of the moral highground.

The DEMS have become the party that worry more about bathrooms and gender issues and sexual harassment and equity and trigger words and all the other cry-baby bullshit that really only matters to a tiny minority of people. In the mean time, the vast majority of Americans in those 4 or 5 states that swing an election (Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) worry about jobs and financial security for them and their families.

To quote Bill Clinton advisor James Carville in 1992, "it's the economy stupid". It's the truth.

Tossing Franken under the bus gained the DEMS soundbites on Bill Maher's show, but that's about it.
I think that may be the attitude here on this board.
But the 50% of the population that's not male may think otherwise.
Trump is already at 32% right now, its not like he can afford to lose any other supporters.
 

rhuarc29

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His victims are truly P.O.'d over his statement on the Senate Floor which was 'who me, actually having done what is alleged, even when there are photographs of me doing it - how can that be true.'
Pretty sure he admitted to the photo of him imitating grabbing the sleeping woman's breasts. My question is why a shitty joke should cost someone their job, especially when elected to that post? For the record, I don't think Trump's crass joke about the privileges of star power should have cost him the presidency either. He has plenty of other reasons he shouldn't be president. I just simply don't understand how thin-skinned our society has become. If you're a public figure and you make a mistake that can in any way be portrayed as sexist, racist, homophobic, etc., you are fucking screwed. Unless you're Trump; he has unlimited mulligans.

It's like no one cares about real issues. Our god damn democracy is under attack by corruption and greed which almost completely controls our politics. Freedom of speech is under attack by the moral police. We have a serious military threat in North Korea. Human exploitation of the planet may doom us all within the next century. People care more about the latest hollywood gossip or the latest Trump tweet than they do about human achievement.

But oh no...that guy used the wrong pronoun to describe me, better fuck him up! Or that guy imitated grabbing a woman's boobs, let's get him fired then pat ourselves on the back! August Ames won't work with a gay guy, better send the nasty homophobe death threats!

Priorities.
 

Anbarandy

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I think that may be the attitude here on this board.
But the 50% of the population that's not male may think otherwise.
Trump is already at 32% right now, its not like he can afford to lose any other supporters.
And he and the GOP are definitely not gaining nor will they gain any more supporters going forward as they have totally alienated all but their basest of their base.

Less than 30% national support for their Tax Deform Plan is a testament that the gullible fish they reeled in in 2016 are now aware of their poison bait.
 

Insidious Von

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Hillary ran a dispirited campaign but Trump won only through gerrymandering. And now his creeping dementia is accelerating.

Leeann Tweeden is a professional opportunist, she must have been paid handsomely for throwing Franken under a bus. So much for bring your kids to work day once Roy Moore gets to the Senate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-uaqttd-Ns
 

james t kirk

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Interesting view.

Franken is of course replaceable. There will be another up and coming Dem senator from somewhere in a few months. It lets the Dems snarl and snicker about Moore and Trump and anyone else and claim the moral high ground. It remains to be seen if there are votes in that.

The economy was the issue in a handful of states in 2016 - mainly the Great Lakes rust belt, which Trump won narrowly. He won because he was a novelty and promised big. He has done nothing to follow through on those promises. He hasn't even toured IN or MI to ask how people are doing, since being elected. I am guessing a vote fall off for the GOP in those states in 2020 based on the "we wuz lied to" blowback.

If it's not "the economy, Stupid!", then it's going to be whatever gets people out vs makes people not give a shit and stay home. So maybe the moral high ground will come in handy after all. And ditching Al lets the Dems pose as the moral party and portray the GOP as the pervert party.
Bernie Sanders said after the election, and I'm paraphrasing here, " I find it sad that the party of my youth has lost the ability to relate to the working class"

This is so very true.

The Democrats have been taken over by the yahoos in the party that only worry about bathrooms and pronouns. White middle class voters are tired of hearing that they are bigots (the worst kind - the kind that don't believe it) day in and day out. (The same white middle class voters that put Obama in office twice.) The Dems will not win the next election if their sole raison d'etre continues to be "social justice".
 

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Frankfooter

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Bernie Sanders said after the election, and I'm paraphrasing here, " I find it sad that the party of my youth has lost the ability to relate to the working class"

This is so very true.

The Democrats have been taken over by the yahoos in the party that only worry about bathrooms and pronouns. White middle class voters are tired of hearing that they are bigots (the worst kind - the kind that don't believe it) day in and day out. (The same white middle class voters that put Obama in office twice.) The Dems will not win the next election if their sole raison d'etre continues to be "social justice".
Sanders is the one that spoke to the middle and lower classes, like Corbyn and Momentum in the UK.
The democrats just wanted to keep their lobbyists happy so backed Clinton.

The question now becomes will the democrats go back to a Clinton party or make use of the new energy and support for a Sanders type party.
 

mandrill

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Of course, Franken hasn't really resigned. He said he "will resign" at some un named point in the future. Speculation is now that he will wait until Moore is elected to the Senate and say "Fuck it! Why the f am I resigning when the Alabama Pedo is sitting in the GOP caucus?!"

And all the Dems - as pre arranged - will say "Don't resign, Al !!!! The Alabama Pedo is in the Senate. It's a Pervert Senate now. We forgive you."

And life will go on.
 

The LoLRus

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Of course, Franken hasn't really resigned. He said he "will resign" at some un named point in the future
Uhm, which news media are you reading???? Franken has resigned!! He's out, its over
 

Butler1000

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Sanders is the one that spoke to the middle and lower classes, like Corbyn and Momentum in the UK.
The democrats just wanted to keep their lobbyists happy so backed Clinton.

The question now becomes will the democrats go back to a Clinton party or make use of the new energy and support for a Sanders type party.
Considering they removed all the progressive voices from the DNC executive I doubt the latter until after 2020.
 

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Uhm, which news media are you reading???? Franken has resigned!! He's out, its over
I watched the speech, in the CBC Atrium with the captions running. There was no mistaking it, he did not resign then and there in the Senate Chamber, and did use the future tense. And he did make it clear the formal resignation would be forthcoming very soon, after he'd conferred over the next week or so with his staff, colleagues and with the people in Minnesota he had tried his best to serve.

As good as, but technically not the actual deed.
 

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He didn’t really resign, he didn’t really admit guilt, he didn’t really apologize.

He’s doing his reputation irreparable damage, and that’s the reputation of a fricking comedian.
 

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Of course, Franken hasn't really resigned. He said he "will resign" at some un named point in the future. Speculation is now that he will wait until Moore is elected to the Senate and say "Fuck it! Why the f am I resigning when the Alabama Pedo is sitting in the GOP caucus?!"

And all the Dems - as pre arranged - will say "Don't resign, Al !!!! The Alabama Pedo is in the Senate. It's a Pervert Senate now. We forgive you."

And life will go on.
yep this is the way I see it going down.
 

The LoLRus

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I watched the speech, in the CBC Atrium with the captions running. There was no mistaking it, he did not resign then and there in the Senate Chamber, and did use the future tense. And he did make it clear the formal resignation would be forthcoming very soon, after he'd conferred over the next week or so with his staff, colleagues and with the people in Minnesota he had tried his best to serve.

As good as, but technically not the actual deed
Okay, I found his speech (starts at 3:00). He said he would resign in next couple of weeks.
If he doesnt he's a liar, but then thats nothing new:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYynQ9SKZw8
 

mandrill

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I watched the speech, in the CBC Atrium with the captions running. There was no mistaking it, he did not resign then and there in the Senate Chamber, and did use the future tense. And he did make it clear the formal resignation would be forthcoming very soon, after he'd conferred over the next week or so with his staff, colleagues and with the people in Minnesota he had tried his best to serve.

As good as, but technically not the actual deed.
The Alabama Pedo election is next Tuesday or thereabouts?

The Dems are going to do a lot of tut-tutting in the next few days and telling everyone that their pervs resign, but the GOP pervs persevere perversely.

Then, after next Tuesday, the pervs will be together on Capitol Hill.
 

james t kirk

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Of course, Franken hasn't really resigned. He said he "will resign" at some un named point in the future. Speculation is now that he will wait until Moore is elected to the Senate and say "Fuck it! Why the f am I resigning when the Alabama Pedo is sitting in the GOP caucus?!"

And all the Dems - as pre arranged - will say "Don't resign, Al !!!! The Alabama Pedo is in the Senate. It's a Pervert Senate now. We forgive you."

And life will go on.
Maybe.

I think he could have gotten past this one.
 

Butler1000

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The Alabama Pedo election is next Tuesday or thereabouts?

The Dems are going to do a lot of tut-tutting in the next few days and telling everyone that their pervs resign, but the GOP pervs persevere perversely.

Then, after next Tuesday, the pervs will be together on Capitol Hill.
Starting to get the fact both parties have almost reached the point of no return I see.

Perhaps if you can be convinced so can a large enough swath of voters to elect independents and a third progressive party.
 
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