They get a hearing where they try to convince the judge they did their best and it wasn't their fault the asshole breached bail. And if they don't succeed, the judge gives the surety amount to the province.
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Constable James Forcillo Arrested for Breaching Bail Terms
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Every time I have seen a local police force have a real crisis and a significant professional challenge, chaos has resulted.
Look at the mega fuckup they made of the G7??!!
Which is why I think the wife ratted him out, and if so she was 100% correct to do it.
There is no justice for Sammy and especially his parents. But there is justice for the community and a clear message to gun happy cops. Think long and hard before you shoot someone down like a dog.
TeeJay, you're back in the thread, correcting a small mistake that someone more reputable than you made. I thought you had left in disgrace and were afraid to come back. Given how much everyone else here dislikes you. And lets you know about it.
Yes, G20.
Left? Since when I post nearly every day
People always hate the person who points out when they are wrong
I hear ya.
Problem is some cops have a shoot first mentality. They have a badge, they have a gun, and no doubt some guys are itching to bust heads and prove they are Rambo. They also know the police union will fight tooth and nail and protect them as much as possible, as well as even management. Notice how every time there's some weird police issue involving over aggressive cops, the police sargeant who gets up on a podium to answer questions always backs up the cop? A cop can go nuts and shoot a school up and no doubt he'll put up the brave face and somehow tell the world he did the right thing.
And then when it really is overkill and the cop is sentenced, that same police chief will disappear and zip it.
If there was a volatile person in my office acting weird with a knife, people would keep their distance and try to calm the guy down. As long as he's doesn't attack and stands there in a corner, people will stay put and wait for cops. Nobody is going to go to the cafe, grab some knives and go in stabbing him to death. But if Forcillo was there, he would be the one charging in throwing knives at the guy trying to kill him. And even after the guy falls to his feet with 2 knives in his chest, he'll go back to the kitchen and grab 5 more and then stab him in the back to finish him off.
A retarded way to act,, but that's the cop industry.
In every other company, if someone goes overboard, the person is immediately fired, suspended you name it. No CEO is going to say buddy did the right thing spitting into someone's Coke. But a police chief in the same situation will somehow justify it was a good move.
To me, that;'s the biggest issue with cops. They back each other up no matter how dumb the incident was.
Forcillo was acquitted on the first three shots. The jury ok'd the actual killing (first three shots were fatal.)
The clear message to gun-happy cops is "It's ok to plug someone for disobeying orders. No long hard thinking required. But watch you don't go over the three shots, in all the excitement."
In mine too. But the jury said the first three were justified. The jury saw all the evidence, of course, but you and I saw what we saw, and it wasn't.
He was acquitted of murder on the first three shots, which actually killed him. He was convicted of attempted murder for shooting someone he thought was alive.
This is a travesty of justice for the community. And he didn't get anywhere near what he deserved.
And that's the problem with a jury system. You get too many people to start with, too much emotion, and too many people who don't know any better. And too much time and money spent, and people wasting productive work hours at a court. Too many avg joes getting influenced by lawyers who are one part lawyer, one part used car salesman.
Allow a judge to handle it, weed through the BS and get down to it. Would be faster too.
IMO, the proper way to analyze and decide cases is by judges. They know the laws better than anyone, and should know best what kinds of precedences have been set in the past. It's stupid to allow court cases like this to be decided by 12 people. You never know, 7 of them might be total morons.
In minor cases, it's a judge only. You don't get jurors, so why do these types of cases suddenly morph into 12-person panels?
The bus driver had asked him several times if there is anyone he could call to help him. I think Yatim did say his farther. Can't quite remember. I think the bus driver also just kept assuring him everything would be alright.
This is why former officer Forcillo was a complete moron that got what he deserved. You kind get a sense on how dangerous a situation is. The bus driver had a better sense of what was going on and didn't really feel that threatened. He did eventually put himself out of danger which was the smart thing to do, but as I said, you get the feeling that Yatim really wasn't a threat at that point and surely did not need to be shot 9 times and then hit with a taser gun. My guess is, eventually he would have dropped the knife and got off the bus after a brief stand off. Forcillo finally got his opportunity to use his gun and took full advantage of it. Thank god this was caught on video cause who knows how many other people this prick would have taken down if he never was charged with this.
Its also why cops perhaps should be more tactful and patient nowadays because almost everyone has a cellphone camera, and odds are good somebody's recording the event.
If Forcillo happened 15 years ago the whole thing would have been swept under the rug
If Forcillo happened 15 years ago the whole thing would have been swept under the rug
For sure.
Never mind civilian cellphones. Just to show how dumb some cops are, their own body cams and dashboard cams can record their over the top actions. Yet they still do it.
There was one video in the US of cops planting drugs in a backyard or something and the cops didn't know the body cam was recording.
He was acquitted of murder, but if there was no opportunity to find him guilty of a serious charge they may have convicted him of a lesser charge on the first 3 shots.
