You post zero criticism of Palestinians. Keep on posting your moral points while refusing to hold the Palestinians to those morals.
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More lying from you.You post zero criticism of Palestinians. Keep on posting your moral points while refusing to hold the Palestinians to those morals.
Hey, I'm curious.
You keep complaining that I'm trying to 'delegitimize' Israel.
But if Israel is a legitimate country, it should have a legitimate border.
Can you point me to a map with the legitimate border of Israel?
'Cuz it seems to me that without a definite and legitimate border then its hard to say your favourite country is legitimate.
Go ahead.
Sure. Show me all those posts where you criticized Hamas. You didn't criticize them for firing terror weapons at Israeli cities. You didn't criticize them for kidnapping and murdering Israeli school kids. You didn't criticize them for hiding in hospitals and schools during a war. You didn't criticize them for launching rockets from deep within the civilian population. You didn't criticize them when their members shot up a market and restaurant. You didn't criticize them when one of their members set off a bomb on a public bus. You didn't criticize them for any of the hundreds of times they called for attacks on Israelis. You have never criticized Hamas for refusing to accept the concept of peace.More lying from you.....
And you haven't criticized Hamas for repressing human rights of Palestinians. You haven't criticized Hamas for summary executions. You haven't criticized Hamas for arresting or torturing political dissidents. You haven't criticized Hamas for throwing Fatah members off roofs. You haven't criticized Hamas for profiting from black market imports. You haven't criticized Hamas for using funds and materials meant for the poor to build military infrastructure.
What have you criticize Hamas for?
I guess Palestine has no legitimacy then since they have no official border....
You keep complaining that I'm trying to 'delegitimize' Israel.
But if Israel is a legitimate country, it should have a legitimate border.
Can you point me to a map with the legitimate border of Israel?
'Cuz it seems to me that without a definite and legitimate border then its hard to say your favourite country is legitimate.
Go ahead.
p.s. It is asinine that you deny trying to delegitimizatize Israel's existence in a post where you claim Israel is illegitimate.
Thank you for confirming that even by your standards, Israel is an illegitimate state since it has no definable borders.I guess Palestine has no legitimacy then since they have no official border.
p.s. It is asinine that you deny trying to delegitimizatize Israel's existence in a post where you claim Israel is illegitimate.
Same with Palestine, sadly.
So, back to partition borders or time to end the 'no-state' apartheid solution with equal rights for all?
I accept all the criticisms reported by the UN, HRW and Amnesty on Israel and Hamas.Sure. Show me all those posts where you criticized Hamas. You didn't criticize them for firing terror weapons at Israeli cities. You didn't criticize them for kidnapping and murdering Israeli school kids. You didn't criticize them for hiding in hospitals and schools during a war. You didn't criticize them for launching rockets from deep within the civilian population. You didn't criticize them when their members shot up a market and restaurant. You didn't criticize them when one of their members set off a bomb on a public bus. You didn't criticize them for any of the hundreds of times they called for attacks on Israelis. You have never criticized Hamas for refusing to accept the concept of peace.
And you haven't criticized Hamas for repressing human rights of Palestinians. You haven't criticized Hamas for summary executions. You haven't criticized Hamas for arresting or torturing political dissidents. You haven't criticized Hamas for throwing Fatah members off roofs. You haven't criticized Hamas for profiting from black market imports. You haven't criticized Hamas for using funds and materials meant for the poor to build military infrastructure.
What have you criticize Hamas for?
They just don't think your claims are legit, either.
And since you've repeatedly posted UN, HRW and Amnesty quotes, I assume that you also must accept all their criticisms as legit on Israel as well as Palestinians?
Then why have you continually argued Hamas was innocent of all those charges?I accept all the criticisms reported by the UN, HRW and Amnesty on Israel and Hamas....
The UN, HRW, and Amnesty stated:
- Rockets from Gaza are a war crime targeting civilians. You excused them saying they didn't kill many Israelis.
- Hamas based their military infrastructure in protected sites such as hospitals and schools. You claimed they did not.
- Hamas launched their attacks from protected sites and withing the civilian population. You alternated between saying they didn't and saying they had no other choice.
- Hamas is guilty of incitement. You claimed they are only words.
And you have never even hinted at the human rights abuses Hamas subjects their own people to.
Simply put you are a fraud when you claim any kind of morals. Your moral compass simply says Israel is evil.
Hamas' rockets fired from Gaza are a war crime, as they are indiscriminate and can't be aimed only at military targets, Hamas should be charged.Then why have you continually argued Hamas was innocent of all those charges?
The UN, HRW, and Amnesty stated:
- Rockets from Gaza are a war crime targeting civilians. You excused them saying they didn't kill many Israelis.
- Hamas based their military infrastructure in protected sites such as hospitals and schools. You claimed they did not.
- Hamas launched their attacks from protected sites and withing the civilian population. You alternated between saying they didn't and saying they had no other choice.
- Hamas is guilty of incitement. You claimed they are only words.
And you have never even hinted at the human rights abuses Hamas subjects their own people to.
Simply put you are a fraud when you claim any kind of morals. Your moral compass simply says Israel is evil.
The UN et al have not, to my knowledge, stated that Hamas used human shields, as they have found Israel has done, but if its in those reports I fully support investigations and charges.
Now that you are supporting the charges of the UN, HRW and Amnesty why do you refuse to say both sides should be investigated and charged for all those war crimes reported by those agencies?
Why do you refuse to say the law should apply to both sides?
I love how when cornered you are forced to admit things that are contradicted by hundreds of your posts where you argued otherwise.Hamas' rockets fired from Gaza are a war crime, as they are indiscriminate and can't be aimed only at military targets, Hamas should be charged.
The UN et al have not, to my knowledge, stated that Hamas used human shields, as they have found Israel has done, but if its in those reports I fully support investigations and charges.
Now that you are supporting the charges of the UN, HRW and Amnesty why do you refuse to say both sides should be investigated and charged for all those war crimes reported by those agencies?
Why do you refuse to say the law should apply to both sides?
Israel has issues but their offenses pale in comparison to Hamas and the PA's abuses of human rights on both sides and Israel at least makes some effort to prosecute offenders instead of celebrating them. Why don't you go back to arguing that Israel doesn't exist?
Israel has issues but their offenses pale in comparison to Hamas and the PA's abuses of human rights on both sides and Israel at least makes some effort to prosecute offenders instead of celebrating them. Why don't you go back to arguing that Israel doesn't exist?
If you believe that then you should support a call for investigations and charges on both sides for all war crimes charged by the UN, HRW and Amnesty.
Will you support both sides being held to the law, since you are sure Israel is innocent?
I am fully aware of the hundreds of posts you have made denying Hamas was guilty of any wrongdoing. I am also aware that Hamas and Fatah both celebrate attacks on Israeli civilians instead of even pretending to investigate.If you believe that...
Israel sometimes fails to ensure its investigations are transparent but that is still many magnitudes better than Hamas handing out candy to celebrate or the PA paying terrorists for their attacks.
If you believe that then you should support a call for investigations and charges on both sides for all war crimes charged by the UN, HRW and Amnesty.Israel sometimes fails to ensure its investigations are transparent but that is still many magnitudes better than Hamas handing out candy to celebrate or the PA paying terrorists for their attacks.
Will you support both sides being held to the law, since you are sure Israel is innocent?
p.s. From Hamas' new charter, they reiterate they will not investigate or prosecute any attacks on Israelis.
Hamas refuses to hinder the resistance or its weapons, and confirms the right of our people to develop resistance tools and equipments.
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/04/translated-leaked-charter/
Hamas celebrates attacks on civilians. The PA pays salaries to people convicted of attacks on civilians and their families. But instead you criticize Israel for lack of transparency.
Hamas refuses to hinder the resistance or its weapons, and confirms the right of our people to develop resistance tools and equipments.
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/04/translated-leaked-charter/
Hamas celebrates attacks on civilians. The PA pays salaries to people convicted of attacks on civilians and their families. But instead you criticize Israel for lack of transparency.
Too bad the quote doesn't say what you claim it says.p.s. From Hamas' new charter, they reiterate they will not investigate or prosecute any attacks on Israelis.
Hamas refuses to hinder the resistance or its weapons, and confirms the right of our people to develop resistance tools and equipments.
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/04/translated-leaked-charter/
Hamas celebrates attacks on civilians. The PA pays salaries to people convicted of attacks on civilians and their families. But instead you criticize Israel for lack of transparency.
Your lying is getting really sad these days.
The quality of hasbara trolls has really declined, but I guess that's what happens when you have to defend an increasingly belligerent apartheid state.
Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against an illegal occupation.
Geneva conventions.
You raise a stink about Palestinians weapons but didn't even raise the slightest outrage at Israel's arming a genocide in Burma.
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/1.810390
Israeli supported genocide? basketcase says 'yes'
Palestinian self defence? basketcase says 'no'
Wow. Funny that a guy who keeps using a misquote from Netanyahu is complaining about quotes.Too bad the quote doesn't say what you claim it says....
And the quote says exactly what I stated, Hamas believes terrorism and attacks on Israelis are a right and they will not do anything to hinder them. Hamas openly praises terrorism and the PA pays salaries to terrorists when they are caught by Israel.
Bullshit, prove that I misquoted Netanyahu, I'm sure you can do that just as easily as show us Israel's borders.Wow. Funny that a guy who keeps using a misquote from Netanyahu is complaining about quotes.
Bullshit, nothing in that statement says anything about terrorism.And the quote says exactly what I stated, Hamas believes terrorism and attacks on Israelis are a right and they will not do anything to hinder them. Hamas openly praises terrorism and the PA pays salaries to terrorists when they are caught by Israel.
You really are turning into a poor hasbara troll.
Been done repeatedly. You said he is opposed to peace using a partial quote ignoring where he said peace is impossible as ling as Islamist militants hold sway in the Palestinian leadership.Bullshit, prove that I misquoted Netanyahu,....
And if you want to pretend that "resistance" means peaceful sit-ins but Hamas celebration of terror attacks makes your claims look idiotic.
basketcase, the straw man, you are switching quotes.Been done repeatedly. You said he is opposed to peace using a partial quote ignoring where he said peace is impossible as ling as Islamist militants hold sway in the Palestinian leadership.
And if you want to pretend that "resistance" means peaceful sit-ins but Hamas celebration of terror attacks makes your claims look idiotic.
The one I provided said nothing of the sort, you are lying again.
Its time for you to take a moral stance against apartheid, as they are starting to do in South Africa.
https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/...tting-all-ties-with-apartheid-israel-20171102
Oh, you mean the quote where Netanyahu said the settlements will be part of Israel due to land swaps that teh Arab League, UN, and even Abbas have agreed will be part of an eventual peace deal?basketcase, the straw man, you are switching quotes....
It's time you took a stance against the Palestinian endorsement of terrorism and violence and racism that has them refusing to accept any peace deal that involves Israel or even Jews having full rights in the region.
No, this quote.Oh, you mean the quote where Netanyahu said the settlements will be part of Israel due to land swaps that teh Arab League, UN, and even Abbas have agreed will be part of an eventual peace deal?
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/29/16220132/netanyahu-settlements-we-will-stay-forever-west-bank“We are here to stay, forever,” Netanyahu said Monday night in Barkan, a settlement of about 1,500 people, at an event celebrating the 50th anniversary of Israel’s West Bank presence.
"There will be no more uprooting of settlements in the land of Israel,” he vowed. “We are guarding Samaria against those who want to uproot us."
The key word in that sentence is "Samaria." It’s the biblical term for part of the region most of the international community refers to as the West Bank. It’s also an area of land much of the international community believes to be illegally occupied by Israel.
Its time you took a stand against apartheid and the war crimes committed by both sides.
