CNBC commentator Marc Faber says "Thank God white people populated America, not black

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I don't think you can call it a blessing to the native population, the genocide is quite possibly the biggest one ever.
Sure, its worked out well for us, but for them?
Not at all.
That was an unfortunate, unintended, and unforeseen consequence of diseases that Natives were susceptible to. That's like trying to pin the Black Plague on Asians or wherever the origin of it came from that decimated Europe.

Let us know when you're ready to abandon the Americas and hand them back to Natives.
 

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Didn’t take you long to abandon your argument that American success was built on the backs of slaves....
If that's your mistaken reading of my posts, I apologize for my failure to acquaint you with your own sad history. Don't give up the effort, it'll do you and your country good.

Let me once again say that my argument is that the 'success' of today's US was not God's gift to the white population as the looney Faber asserts in the OP. Besides the quaint reference to mythical cross-dressingsuper elderly males floating around the heavens, as Bud pointed out, his whites stole the place from the indigenous inhabitants they exterminated, concentrated in camps and reservations like Jews under the Tsars, or Nazis and forcibly re-located like today's Rohingya. And of course the worst of the work that today's US was built on was performed by kidnapped African populations bought and sold by the wealthy owners they were enriching. The abuse of slavery lasted almost twice as long as your history since Emancipation (not that that's been all sweetness and light), and there have been any number of other actions and attitudes that discredit that white 'race', just as there are such in the past and present of everyone on the planet.

The point is not to try to argue away what your past really was, but to consider it thoughtfully and work all the harder to build a better present and future.
 

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That was an unfortunate, unintended, and unforeseen consequence of diseases that Natives were susceptible to. That's like trying to pin the Black Plague on Asians or wherever the origin of it came from that decimated Europe.

Let us know when you're ready to abandon the Americas and hand them back to Natives.
There was more intent to it then that.

What's done is done, but it shouldn't be forgotten or used as a basis to argue that any one colour of people are better/smarter then any other.

The central thesis of the book I linked above, Guns, Germs, and Steel is that different groups of people did better then others based on resources available.
In Europe/China there were grains that lead to farming, and domesticable animals (none in Africa and only Guinea Pigs in America) that lead to farms that could support a village. That lead to specialization that lead to metal works. That increased populations, and people living with farm animals and higher density lead to the creation of diseases. Those diseases and guns that were taken around the world decimated other populations that didn't have the natural resources to increase their populations and specialize or create their own diseases.
 

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If that's your mistaken reading of my posts, I apologize for my failure to acquaint you with your own sad history. Don't give up the effort, it'll do you and your country good.

Let me once again say that my argument is that the 'success' of today's US was not God's gift to the white population as the looney Faber asserts in the OP. Besides the quaint reference to mythical cross-dressingsuper elderly males floating around the heavens, as Bud pointed out, his whites stole the place from the indigenous inhabitants they exterminated, concentrated in camps and reservations like Jews under the Tsars, or Nazis and forcibly re-located like today's Rohingya. And of course the worst of the work that today's US was built on was performed by kidnapped African populations bought and sold by the wealthy owners they were enriching. The abuse of slavery lasted almost twice as long as your history since Emancipation (not that that's been all sweetness and light), and there have been any number of other actions and attitudes that discredit that white 'race', just as there are such in the past and present of everyone on the planet.

The point is not to try to argue away what your past really was, but to consider it thoughtfully and work all the harder to build a better present and future.
Thanks for the sermon, I doubt anyone would disagree
 

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Both are easy to look up. 2011 was the first year that non-white births were the majority in the US, and the trend continues with the gap widening. IAs the aging white population dies off without being replaced it won't be long before those non-white babies become the majority of voting adults. The exact year just depends on the age you want to count them.

I assume you already know that American slaves were brought here from Africa, transported like the animals you see being hauled to their doom on the 401. That'd be because the imported European diseases had killed off the native labour, and the plantation owners certainly weren't going to pay what it would take to bring their own people over to work for them. Not that records of those early centuries are really reliable, but there's serious evidence that slaves always outnumbered whites in much of the Old South. Which means the population there was black, not white.

So if the Europeans 'populated' the US with 'Whites' as part of "God's plan", it was just an unpleasant blip 'He' used to get the country from mostly 'Red' to mostly 'Black'
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What a disgusting piece of racist pus the OP forced to our attention. It's frightening and sad that such drivel is ever published, and horrifying to think some 'adults' actually believe such dangerous stupidity.
 

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Both are easy to look up. 2011 was the first year that non-white births were the majority in the US, and the trend continues with the gap widening. IAs the aging white population dies off without being replaced it won't be long before those non-white babies become the majority of voting adults. The exact year just depends on the age you want to count them.

I assume you already know that American slaves were brought here from Africa, transported like the animals you see being hauled to their doom on the 401. That'd be because the imported European diseases had killed off the native labour, and the plantation owners certainly weren't going to pay what it would take to bring their own people over to work for them. Not that records of those early centuries are really reliable, but there's serious evidence that slaves always outnumbered whites in much of the Old South. Which means the population there was black, not white.

So if the Europeans 'populated' the US with 'Whites' as part of "God's plan", it was just an unpleasant blip 'He' used to get the country from mostly 'Red' to mostly 'Black'
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What a disgusting piece of racist pus the OP forced to our attention. It's frightening and sad that such drivel is ever published, and horrifying to think some 'adults' actually believe such dangerous stupidity.
Actually brown as Hispanic / Latin Americans have overtaken African Americans as the largest minority group in the US.
 

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No. Racism is the unjustified hatred or prejudice against a race. Either he's wrong and racist or he's right and not racist.
I think racism is judging and individual based on their race (same of the other isms) vs themselves.
 

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No. Racism is the unjustified hatred or prejudice against a race. Either he's wrong and racist or he's right and not racist
I think it depends on what the emotion was behind his statement. If he was pointing out how whites are better than blacks, and far superior to them, you could argue its racist. If he was just pointing out statistical facts, then you cant argue with those facts because Africa is not exactly a good example of technological, industrial and innovative progress.

Sorry, but its true.

My guess is he doesnt like black people though. Why even bother making an obvious statement like that unless he's a hater??
 

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Actually brown as Hispanic / Latin Americans have overtaken African Americans as the largest minority group in the US.
I guess I wasn't as clear as I hoped: whites — whatever folks who use such terms mean by that — are on the way to becoming just another minority. Blacks will outnumber them. Which other 'race' might get to do that first, who in their right mind would care?

The point is PornAddict cited a moronic racist as if he was talking some sort of sense we should be aware of. He wasn't. No sense at all.
 

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No. Racism is the unjustified hatred or prejudice against a race. Either he's wrong and racist or he's right and not racist.
Nice try, but if the hatred or prejudice about a race can be justified (and I don't see how pre-judging, which is what prejudice is, can ever be justifiable) then you have to say who is and who isn't a member of that race and why. Good luck. It's an entirely specious exercise, because the concept is entirely subjective. And has no useful purpose. Hatred of a specific people or actions, or institutions may be justifiable, but not race. Not ever.

Certainly not until you can tell us what is a race and what are the races, and who belongs to which. Heck, we can't even define race as objectively as the Kennel Clubs define breeds, and they can't keep their determinations out of the courts.

Although I see the quandry you've set up, I think the reality is that Faber's wrong and racist.
 

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I guess I wasn't as clear as I hoped: whites — whatever folks who use such terms mean by that — are on the way to becoming just another minority. Blacks will outnumber them. Which other 'race' might get to do that first, who in their right mind would care?

The point is PornAddict cited a moronic racist as if he was talking some sort of sense we should be aware of. He wasn't. No sense at all.
Blacks are not going to outnumber Whites in America. Whites will be a minority (i.e. less than 50% of the US population) in a few decades but by far the largest minority group for the next few generations. Blacks are approx 12% of the population. Blacks have consistently been at size for a long time. Hispanics will eventually outnumber both groups. Frankfooter should be happy - the Natives will eventually re-take land that they lost during colonization of the New World. The downside is that the quality of life is going to diminish.
 

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Do you really think the difference are based on race?
Today's quote on the matter.

Why Race Is Not a Thing, According to Genetics

The characteristics of normal human variation we use to determine broad social categories of race—such as black, Asian, or white—are mostly things like skin color, morphological features, or hair texture, and those are all biologically encoded.
But when we look at the full genomes from people all over the world, those differences represent a tiny fraction of the differences between people. There is, for instance, more genetic diversity within Africa than in the rest of the world put together. If you take someone from Ethiopia and someone from the Sudan, they are more likely to be more genetically different from each other than either one of those people is to anyone else on the planet!
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/10/genetics-history-race-neanderthal-rutherford/
 

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I guess I wasn't as clear as I hoped: whites — whatever folks who use such terms mean by that — are on the way to becoming just another minority. Blacks will outnumber them. Which other 'race' might get to do that first, who in their right mind would care?

The point is PornAddict cited a moronic racist as if he was talking some sort of sense we should be aware of. He wasn't. No sense at all.
I’ve never seen any stats that predict more African Americans than whites in the US. Provide a link, we know how you feel about those.
 

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Do you really think the difference are based on race?
Outcomes are easy to measure, causes are not.

Name a Jewish player in the NBA.....
 
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