The iPhone X - What's you take?

[TeeJay]

Android Phones are better.

Myth
Android jumped the shark years ago

Apple never innovates
Market is beyond stagnant these days


I miss Windows and Blackberry now

Pretty much every top end phone is in that range. Google tried the mid market with a couple of their nexus phones but the later nexus and pixels are still running a grand CDN. Sadly it's what the market will bare. Cheapest high end phone I'm aware of is oneplus.

OnePlus is so overhyped (& overpriced)
You do realize their parent (& cousin?) companies will sell direct for cheaper
Then you can just flash it if you really want the "OnePlus experience"
But the global roms were far superior (thats why they merged the code and stopped supporting the useless North American version)

 

[mmouse]

I'd rather get a Xiaomi Mix 2. Nicer phone at half the price.

 

[Terminator2000]

Myth
Android jumped the shark years ago

Apple never innovates
Market is beyond stagnant these days


I miss Windows and Blackberry now

i guess once a company beats and kills the competition. its product becomes stagnant and no longer innovative and changing cause theres no competition to compete with.

 

[basketcase]

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OnePlus is so overhyped (& overpriced)
You do realize their parent (& cousin?) companies will sell direct for cheaper
Then you can just flash it if you really want the "OnePlus experience"
But the global roms were far superior (thats why they merged the code and stopped supporting the useless North American version)

I haven't played with a oneplus since the original but the most recent seems to have specs in the same range as phones priced above it. Yes, you can spend a grand for a samsung and then flash it but that seems pretty silly just to get the same experience as a phone costing a few hundred less.

And my point has nothing to do with being able to find a $650 phone for less but rather that pretty much every mainstream high end phone is pushing $1000 because that's what people are willing to pay.

 

[Born2Star]

Strong buy here.

$1,500 wouldn't last two months for SP/MP for a lot of us here. It's something you use daily for a good one or two years and will still worth $500 by then selling as used.

 

[Platon]

Still happy with my old android phone, which does all I need it to do.

 

[Frankfooter]

Strong buy here.

$1,500 wouldn't last two months for SP/MP for a lot of us here. It's something you use daily for a good one or two years and will still worth $500 by then selling as used.

Apple laptops and phones have strong resale value (for electronics), they generally last pretty well.

 

[fuji]

I will stick with Samsung phones until there is something like Knox available on other devices. I don't use Knox the way Samsung imagines I would.

Anything sensitive that I wouldn't want others to see, like my terb browsing, lives inside Knox and requires an extra password to access. Just unlocking my phone doesn't get you into it. You also need to get into Knox.

So I can hand my unlocked phone to my wife, a friend, a coworker, etc, and not worry so long as I know Knox is locked. I can use my phone as a GPS on my dashboard and not worry what the passenger might see.

And if I want to wipe everything sensitive from my phone I just delete Knox and it's gone, without having to factory reset my phone. Regular emails, browsing, etc, all still there.

To me it's a killer feature and so far I haven't seen anything like it on non Samsung devices.

(Cue TeeJay to say old versions weren't secure. Doesn't matter. It works well enough to hand my phone to a friend and it's secure if you uninstall and delete all the data. Modern versions fixed the old problems anyway by moving encryption to a separate chip.)

 

[ElCapitain]

I will stick with Samsung phones until there is something like Knox available on other devices. I don't use Knox the way Samsung imagines I would.

Anything sensitive that I wouldn't want others to see, like my terb browsing, lives inside Knox and requires an extra password to access. Just unlocking my phone doesn't get you into it. You also need to get into Knox.

So I can hand my unlocked phone to my wife, a friend, a coworker, etc, and not worry so long as I know Knox is locked. I can use my phone as a GPS on my dashboard and not worry what the passenger might see.

And if I want to wipe everything sensitive from my phone I just delete Knox and it's gone, without having to factory reset my phone. Regular emails, browsing, etc, all still there.

To me it's a killer feature and so far I haven't seen anything like it on non Samsung devices.

I use iCab Mobile on the iPhone to do basically the same thing. Anything adult-related (my non-public Twitter, webmail, Terb, Backpage, etc.) is behind a passcoded secure session that locks automatically. Apple's sandboxing gets a lot of flak, but here it works in our favour -- if I blow away the app, all the data disappears too, and no other app is capable of accessing the data.

The best thing IMHO is that the app doesn't even look suspicious because I've set it up to present a regular browsing session when you open it up.

You still have to have another way of securing your burner app that handles text messages and calls, but most of the burner apps have locks built-in now.

 

[SirWanker]

• Samsung produces the screen for iPhoneX (not sure about the other models). I would suspect they would keep the best specs for themselves.
• The fast charge function is dependent on the glass back. How durable will that material be with multiple drops? Good bye protective case too (for now).
• As for the facial recognition, the phone will revert to the passcode after X# of failed logins. Plus it will prompt for the passcode after any re-boot.

I'll decide when a new phone is required.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

A lot of people will find the facial recognition a terrible invasion of privacy.
It would be real easy for Apple to keep a database on all its users

 

[Born2Star]

• Samsung produces the screen for iPhoneX (not sure about the other models). I would suspect they would keep the best specs for themselves.
• The fast charge function is dependent on the glass back. How durable will that material be with multiple drops? Good bye protective case too (for now).
• As for the facial recognition, the phone will revert to the passcode after X# of failed logins. Plus it will prompt for the passcode after any re-boot.

I'll decide when a new phone is required.

I doubt Samsung will keep the best spec for themselves. Samsung is a big company, not all teams are talking to each other. The goal of every separate division is to MAKE MONEY. The manufacturing division will do whatever the customer (Apple here) ask them to do. And looking at the CEO and senior folks in Samsung it doesn't seem like they're visionary like Steve Jobs....

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

I luv this image as it shows that iPhone does not need ridiculous specs to run efficiently.

I was on two iPhones originally, then 2 Android for another 4/5 years and back to Apple now realizing what I've been missing and how good and optimized their OS and apps are.

Here are some stats:
http://bgr.com/2017/09/18/iphone-x-specs-vs-galaxy-s8-iphone-8-more/

Are u kidding me...LMFAO but iPhone haters gonna say this is fake :whoo:

 

[onthebottom]

I luv this image as it shows that iPhone does not need ridiculous specs to run efficiently.

I was on two iPhones originally, then 2 Android for another 4/5 years and back to Apple now realizing what I've been missing and how good and optimized their OS and apps are.

Here are some stats:
http://bgr.com/2017/09/18/iphone-x-specs-vs-galaxy-s8-iphone-8-more/

Are u kidding me...LMFAO but iPhone haters gonna say this is fake :whoo:

That's old PC spec buying behavior, because the SW was the same the device was a commodity.

The other factor is upgrades.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

They left out the free apps you get with Samsung

 

[Frankfooter]

That's old PC spec buying behavior, because the SW was the same the device was a commodity.

The other factor is upgrades.

Oh thanks, I thought they were both not that far until you posted the processor scores.
I forgot that Samsung has to dedicate too much cpu to pixels and apples proprietary chips were that much better.
Totally didn't think they'd double the Samsung scores, so thanks for that.

 

[JANE WAY]

I have the iPhone 7s Plus and I love it. Upgrading seems unnecessary, honestly. Also can you say price gouge? Apple, let me live! Or save, rather.

 

[Terminax]

Eh, not upgrading from my Samsung Galaxy Note8.

 

[lomotil]

The cult of Apple did not die with the visionary, the late great Steve Jobs. Apple is simply just not the same, good phones but those Apple cultist who line up for them are in my experiences mostly just posers who do not even know who Steve Jobs was. I am sure that the X is a good phone but nothing what it could have been if the founder was alive now. Actually it should be more than a good phone for that price. I think that the X represents the twilight for Apple and after this phone, subsequent releases will be less and less impressive.

 

[GameBoy27]

The cult of Apple did not die with the visionary, the late great Steve Jobs. Apple is simply just not the same, good phones but those Apple cultist who line up for them are in my experiences mostly just posers who do not even know who Steve Jobs was. I am sure that the X is a good phone but nothing what it could have been if the founder was alive now. Actually it should be more than a good phone for that price. I think that the X represents the twilight for Apple and after this phone, subsequent releases will be less and less impressive.

I'm the furthest thing from an Apple fanboy or a then Jobs follower. In fact I've never owned an Apple product until I got the iPhone 7 Plus. I had always had BlackBerry but they had nothing new to offer. I narrowed my choices down the the iPhone 7 Plus and the Samsung Galaxy Note 7. When Samsung canned the Note 7 due to exploding batteries, the decision was made and I couldn't be happier.

I take a lot of photos and the dual camera is excellent. Photos taken with the portrait effect are simply stunning and rival a good DSLR. Low light photos are great too because more light enters the dual camera lens. Even the audio and video I've taken at live music events turns out great. The processor is fast, screen is excellent, battery life is good, charges quickly and does most everything else well. If you're in the market to upgrade an older iPhone 4, 5 or 6, I think the 7 Plus would be a good choice.

You mentioned "I think that the X represents the twilight for Apple and after this phone, subsequent releases will be less and less impressive." People told me to pass on the 7 Plus wait for the 10th. year anniversary phone as they'll be saving super cool upgrades for that. Now that I see it and the price, I'm glad I got the 7 Plus. The main difference is facial recognition, OLED screen and wireless charging. Not exactly ground breaking technological improvements. I think you're right, we're at the point that these new phones are so good, we're only going to see minor improvements on existing technologies from here on.

The 7 might just be the best deal when the 8 and 10 is released.