Climate Fraud Exposed: CO2 Doesn’t Rise Up, Trap And Retain Heat

[FAST]

Key word: Entirely.

Very few disagree that man made is the major factor. There are likely other factors at work but the big one is us (and it's the only one we can impact).

So stop growing crops, and stop 3rd world countries from clear cutting forests,...is that some of your solutions,...???

 

[fuji]

So stop growing crops, and stop 3rd world countries from clear cutting forests,...is that some of your solutions,...???

That is a spectacularly stupid comment that indicates a lack of understanding and a lack of thinking.

 

[FAST]

That is a spectacularly stupid comment that indicates a lack of understanding and a lack of thinking.

Your the one who calimed that man started to control the climate when we started planting crops,...not me.

Clear cutting forests is recognised as one of the important contributions to CO2 levels,...more than all transportation combined,...time for you to learn fuji.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Let me know when you find somebody credible enough to get published in a high quality journal. Until then your posts are just variations on farting

John Christy is not credible enough for you??

He is Professor of Atmospheric Science and Director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. He was appointed Alabama's state climatologist in 2000. He was also awarded NASA's Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement, and the American Meteorological Society's "Special Award.

Christy also used to work for the IPCC until he quit because he felt global warming was an exaggerated pile of bullshit.
IPCC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change

How much more credible does he need to be, fuji??

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Key word: Entirely.

Very few disagree that man made is the major factor. There are likely other factors at work but the big one is us (and it's the only one we can impact)

I believe fossil fuels make a small impact, but not nearly as much as the doomsday sayers want us to believe

 

[fuji]

Your the one who calimed that man started to control the climate when we started planting crops,...not me.

Clear cutting forests is recognised as one of the important contributions to CO2 levels,...more than all transportation combined,...time for you to learn fuji.

I never claimed "control" you made that up and tried to attribute it to me.

 

[fuji]

John Christy is not credible enough for you??

He is Professor of Atmospheric Science and Director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. He was appointed Alabama's state climatologist in 2000. He was also awarded NASA's Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement, and the American Meteorological Society's "Special Award.

Christy also used to work for the IPCC until he quit because he felt global warming was an exaggerated pile of bullshit.
IPCC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change

How much more credible does he need to be, fuji??

Show me the paper published in a credible journal. If he's such an expert why isn't he published?

 

[fuji]

I believe fossil fuels make a small impact, but not nearly as much as the doomsday sayers want us to believe

You hypothesis has been proven wrong by empirical observations that have been published in Nature.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Show me the paper published in a credible journal. If he's such an expert why isn't he published?

I dont have the exact study, but Christy has served as a Contributor and Lead Author for the U.N. reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

He has also served on five National Research Council panels or committees and has performed research funded by NASA, NOAA, DOE, DOT and the State of Alabama and has published many articles including studies appearing in Science, Nature, Journal of Climate and The Journal of Geophysical Research. Dr. Christy has provided testimony to several congressional committees.

Link: http://www.nsstc.uah.edu/users/john.christy/about.html

Christy also has a Ph.D. degree in Atmospheric Sciences from the University of Illinois.
I would think he knows what he's talking about

 

[Moviefan-2]

...so you're picking inane fights with things I said back in May 2016--because in August of 2017 you have got fucking nothing to say to refute the facts.

This is hilarious.

So Fuji now admits that last year -- when he initially cited that 2015 paper from Nature -- he had no idea what he was talking about. But, apparently, his total ignorance isn't an issue because it was last year.

However, Fuji cited that same paper in a thread in June 2017. And when I once again reminded him that the paper didn't measure the results from water vapour feedback, here was his response to the point on water vapour feedback:

The article argues that one particular cooling effect (influence of the stratosphere on the troposphere) were underestimated and need to be adjusted in the AGW model.

So, in June 2017, he was still claiming that water vapour feedback was "one particular cooling effect" on the planet.

He didn't know what he was talking about last year. He doesn't know what he's talking about this year.

(By the way, Fuji has also stated that he "never" said water vapour feedback has a cooling effect. He has now conceded that he has been lying.)

 

[Moviefan-2]

I dont have the exact study, but Christy has served as a Contributor and Lead Author for the U.N. reports by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

He has also served on five National Research Council panels or committees and has performed research funded by NASA, NOAA, DOE, DOT and the State of Alabama and has published many articles including studies appearing in Science, Nature, Journal of Climate and The Journal of Geophysical Research. Dr. Christy has provided testimony to several congressional committees.

Link: http://www.nsstc.uah.edu/users/john.christy/about.html

Christy also has a Ph.D. degree in Atmospheric Sciences from the University of Illinois.
I would think he knows what he's talking about

Anyone who has even a passing familiarity with this subject would know who John Christy is.

This is just further evidence -- in September 2017 -- of Fuji's total ignorance of this topic.

 

[Moviefan-2]

Do you know what the word "if" means or are you utterly and totally illiterate?

There's no "if" in the computer model projections about water vapour feedback.

 

[basketcase]

I believe fossil fuels make a small impact, but not nearly as much as the doomsday sayers want us to believe

Again, "believe".

 

[basketcase]

So stop growing crops, and stop 3rd world countries from clear cutting forests,...is that some of your solutions,...???

Of course you would suggest something to kill off much of the world's population.

There are so many simple things that individuals and western countries can do. Reduce electricity usage. Two thirds of US energy production is by fossil fuels. Canada does much better with only 20% . Reduce driving. Plan cities better to reduce need for as much driving. Make personal choices to drive less and use more efficient vehicles. Even beyond combustion in vehicles, the oil sands are a massive CO2 producer.

I'm sure you've heard all the things that can be done and most of the individual choices also save money.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Again, "believe"

Yup, it's called having an opinion

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Anyone who has even a passing familiarity with this subject would know who John Christy is.

This is just further evidence -- in September 2017 -- of Fuji's total ignorance of this topic

If you don't know who John Christy is, then you are pretty ignorant on the whole global warming topic.

Looking at you fuji

 

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I never claimed "control" you made that up and tried to attribute it to me.

You claimed that man started to change the planet's temperature when we started planting crops.

Now you want to change the planet's temperature again,...but not control it,...if we can't control it,...what is all this climate change talk we are hearing..

And you are still on about articles in some discredited nature magazine,...that magazine is NOT going to publish an article that states the theories published in for decades are wrong,...not a snow balls chance in hell fuji,...just dumb to think otherwise.

And your nature magazine is discredited,...I proved that to you,...as have others.

 

[FAST]

Of course you would suggest something to kill off much of the world's population.

There are so many simple things that individuals and western countries can do. Reduce electricity usage. Two thirds of US energy production is by fossil fuels. Canada does much better with only 20% . Reduce driving. Plan cities better to reduce need for as much driving. Make personal choices to drive less and use more efficient vehicles. Even beyond combustion in vehicles, the oil sands are a massive CO2 producer.

I'm sure you've heard all the things that can be done and most of the individual choices also save money.

Agreed that we can do better,...we already are.
but until the backward countries of the world,...including China, which produces 70% of it energy from coal,... also make an effort,...you are not going to see anything change.

And sending billions of tax dollars to the corrupt UN,...will also accomplish nothing.

Plus,...I still am not convinced that CO2 is the only cause of the so called climate change,...has been going on for centuries,...its just natural.

 

[fuji]

You claimed that man started to change the planet's temperature when we started planting crops.

Absolutely, but then you went and tried to rewrite that into "controlling the temperature", another one of your dumb replies -- you just aren't smart enough to have this conversation.

Now you want to change the planet's temperature again,...but not control it,...if we can't control it,...what is all this climate change talk we are hearing..

Nobody knows what you're talking about, but it sure as hell isn't anything I said.

And you are still on about articles in some discredited nature magazine,...that magazine is NOT going to publish an article that states the theories published in for decades are wrong,...not a snow balls chance in hell fuji,...just dumb to think otherwise.

And there you go again proving you know fuck all about scientific publications.

And your nature magazine is discredited,...I proved that to you,...as have others.

You haven't proved jack shit, you posted a link to some moronic blog that you were so stupid you actually believed.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Roy Spencer, he's another highly acclaimed scientist who thinks global warming is exaggerated bullshit. One of his theories is there's a lot more "atmospheric escape" going on with CO2's then was previously thought in mainstream science:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Spencer_(scientist)