What do you do if condo security DOES address you?

[bigbangupper]

This isn't a review, but I am posting this here instead of the general lounge because it relates specifically to in-call arrangements. A mod can move it if it would be better suited to the lounge. I did a search and it seems as though this gets discussed less often than perhaps it should.

From what I understand, the standard protocol with agencies is as follows:

1. You notify the agency that you have arrived at the building.
2. They provide the buzzer code and you enter the lobby.
3. No earlier than ten minutes prior to the start time of your appointment, you notify the agency that you are in the lobby.
4. They provide the room number and any other precautionary conditions (eg. do not knock on the door, etc.)
5. You go to the room and hopefully do not experience this.

(Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of that.)

While in the lobby, has a security guard ever asked you an unexpected question? For instance, where you're going in the building, who you're there to see, if you've been there before, etc. How did you respond? What are the best responses to give in scenarios like these? Did the way you looked that day play a role in the unwanted attention? Funny stories are welcomed too, but I'm more interested in the horror variety and advice on how to avoid them.

 

[HOLLYWOODG]

Just saying you are going to meet your cousin in room whatever. End of story. Make it believable though

 

[waterloodude]

This isn't a review, but I am posting this here instead of the general lounge because it relates specifically to in-call arrangements. A mod can move it if it would be better suited to the lounge. I did a search and it seems as though this gets discussed less often than perhaps it should.

From what I understand, the standard protocol with agencies is as follows:

1. You notify the agency that you have arrived at the building.
2. They provide the buzzer code and you enter the lobby.
3. No earlier than ten minutes prior to the start time of your appointment, you notify the agency that you are in the lobby.
4. They provide the room number and any other precautionary conditions (eg. do not knock on the door, etc.)
5. You go to the room and hopefully do not experience this.

(Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of that.)

While in the lobby, has a security guard ever asked you an unexpected question? For instance, where you're going in the building, who you're there to see, if you've been there before, etc. How did you respond? What are the best responses to give in scenarios like these? Did the way you looked that day play a role in the unwanted attention? Funny stories are welcomed too, but I'm more interested in the horror variety and advice on how to avoid them.

I've never experienced a split points 2 and 3. I let them know when I'm at the building (I'm always early but I wait until 10 min before to give them an actual heads up). When the girl is ready they contact me to provide the buzzer code and room number. I then head straight up and attempt to avoid all eye contact with anyone at a security desk. lol Having you sit in the lobby for 10 minutes staring at your phone for a text seems isn't very inconspicuous if you're attempting to avoid the attention of any security.

 

[lailokens]

You typically get the Buzz and room number at the same time when you're ready to go up. So I typically don't loiter in the lobby at all.

 

[fisherm]

Agree, don't loiter and make sure the security desk sees you buzz in. Once I followed someone in and was stopped by security. I told them I was seeing a friend and I'll go back to buzz them to make sure they are there. Didn't stop me after that.

 

[bigbangupper]

Oh, thanks guys. I was under the impression that agencies tend to divide those two steps for their benefit. That is, that they prefer that you arrive early enough to rule out a cancellation/no-show, but also that you go to the room late enough such that you cannot interfere with another appointment or endanger the SP (especially if you're a new or unknown client). For the last in-call I did, I did get those two pieces of information separately, but maybe I notified them of my arrival too early. I suppose it's true that it would be better to wait outside until the time of the appointment is closer to minimize attention, but then you have to assume that the agency didn't botch your booking and is prepared/willing to tell you everything without delay.

I might be overthinking the whole thing, but I have seen encounters with security being described in some recent threads, and that got me thinking about it.

 

[Vkcs20]

Damn, didn't realise incalls are so complicated!

 

[Malika Fantasy]

I personally do 3 steps for giving out all of my incall details as it deminish the chance of no show.

1-Say to the person to text me at x corner or when they are park
2-Give them the address and buzzer
3-As they buzz in, the unit number

Without step 2, you will always have some people that will on purpose collect your address and it can be dangerous. With step 2 I obviously know they are there.

As for security, I always tell people to let me buzz them in and not follow any residents, but of course some people dont listen.
If it ever happen to you, just sign at the desk with a random name and put a unit that you know would exist in the building. for example if you are sent to unit 1108, there is definitely going to be a unit 1005 for example.

 

[bazokajoe]

I never hang around a lobby unless its a very busy hotel like the Delta Chelsea.Never in a condo unit.I usually just walk around the area within a block of building.

 

[jimlehman]

Good advice all around.
Keep in mind some buildings have visitors elevator or floor-specific access, so you must always buzz in and head to the right elevator. never tell anyone the unit you are entering.

my very first time booking with an agency was in a building at bay n gerrard. got the buzz code but the girl didn't answer. even called the agency back and the girl wasn't answering. security got suspicious and asked who i was seeing.
i just walked away and told the agency i'm ditching. pretty bad having a client struggling to buzz in for five minutes.

 

[legmann]

Damn, didn't realise incalls are so complicated!

They are not; at worst, you are asked to 'sign' in (providing some name and room number), but that is it.

Alternately, an agency might give you the 'name' of some individual you are there to see should you be asked by security. Each of these tend to apply to private condo buildings and not hotels.

 

[Samranchoi]

Never hang around the entrance until you receive the buzz code and unit # from the agency. As well, even if you receive the buzz code and unit #, always use it and don't enter the building if someone is going into the building at the same time. If security sees that you didn't call up or didn't use a fob, they may stop you and ask you where you are going.

 

[SkyRider]

If memory serves me right, there is a building near the Rogers Centre where a computer voice loudly announces each number you punch into the keypad downstairs.

 

[jcpro]

Make sure you're dressed properly and inform johnny legs that your here as a guest of one of the residents. If he wants to know more, tell him politely to mind his own business. Don't stop in front of the counter, just keep going. You belong there after all, remember? You're a respectable member of the community, beyond reproach.

 

[gmaximus]

Once I followed people into the building without buzzing and the security asked me who I was meeting and the unit#. I told him to see a friend and made up some name and unit #, and to my surprise he checked if the name was in the system. I then told him my friend was visiting from out of town and staying with her friend who's name I didn't know. He then asked me to tell my friend to come downstairs to get me. So I pretended to call my friend and left the building. A few minutes later I buzzed in and the security didn't stop me. Lesson learnt, never follow people into the building if security is present, especially at condos downtown.

Another time I had to sign in with my name and the unit number, which I made up.

Also once a SP gave me the buzzer # and had me waiting in the lobby for the unit number. To get the unit number I had to text her the colour of the walls in the lobby. Wtf right? The wait felt like hours as I stood facing the elevators, the concierge behind me, and people going in and out of the elevators. Not a good experience at all. Luckily she was fun.

Now I'm not as nervous as I used to be. I don't care anymore if the security thinks if I'm there to see a SP. I think 80-90% of the men in the GTA see or have met SPs atleast once because it's so damn tough to book a decent SP on a Friday, lol.

 

[koreanjames]

I never hang around a lobby unless its a very busy hotel like the Delta Chelsea.Never in a condo unit.I usually just walk around the area within a block of building.

Exactly chat with a friend or play with your phone/go for a walk outside until you get the info you need..... then go inside. Waiting around in the lobby until you get your RM number text, then getting up and going upstairs is a dead giveaway imo re why you are there

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Walk in with a package or some type of food delivery, and make it look like you're the delivery guy

 

[sempel]

Walk in with a package or some type of food delivery, and make it look like you're the delivery guy

Guys are there with a "package" expecting to make a "delivery" - lol (sorry, couldn't resist).

If I'm early I wait in car, whether it be a hotel or a condo. I will start walking close to appointment time and text I've arrived a couple minutes before I expect to reach the buzzer (or elevators if in a hotel).

For my two condo incalls, there wasn't security. In one case, I buzzed in but had to wait in the entrance for the indy to send me the unit. Just played on my phone as people walked by. Never stare at your phone waiting as that looks suspicious. In the other case, I actually went through without buzzing and told the agency to notify the girl I was on my way up (I got buzzer and unit together). Don't think they did in time but either way, the lady was ready else I wouldn't have gotten the unit number.

For future appointments, I will notify the lady/agency 5 min before the appointment that I've arrived with the goal of being at the buzzer at the 2-3 min before mark. Buzz in and just proceed directly to elevators like I've been there before (if there's security or other people). If security stops me I'm playing possum and giving nothing unless required and then I will BS on who I am seeing, purpose, and unit.

If I'm running late I provide an occasional update about ETA and announce parking when parking and arrived when close to buzzer.

 

[Samranchoi]

Walk in with a package or some type of food delivery, and make it look like you're the delivery guy

There is one building I used to visit regularity because of my favorite SP. I didn't like it too much as security was tougher. I always brought some food for the woman I was meeting and I was never stopped. The one time I didn't have any food, the security guard asked me to sign in.

 

[shotgun2003]

If memory serves me right, there is a building near the Rogers Centre where a computer voice loudly announces each number you punch into the keypad downstairs.

The trick is to type the buzz# in quickly, so it only announces the first or last number out loud.