★ Pitbulls, dangerous or not dangerous?

[mandrill]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Diane_Whipple

One of the lawyers in this case is serving 15 to life.

A dog can be a powerful force to attract attention. Dickless cowards have pitbulls to enhance their meaningless existence. There is one tattooed unemployed scumbag that walks around the neighborhood park shirtless with a leather hat and leather vest walking a pitbull. He likes to get his kicks by walking his pink faced ugly dog into a crowd and seeing people step aside.

Those were not pit bulls. It's a well known case. The lawyers in that case were the nutcases of the local San Fran Bar and pretty much outcasts from the legal community. They acted out all through the trial and made everything 10 times worse for themselves.

 

[Occasionally]

Personally,I believe all dogs to be dangerous.You never know what's going through their minds.A gentle dog can turn in a second. All dogs should be leashed and muzzled once they walk out the owners door.

Agreed.

Even if a dog seems very nice and quiet, it can still be harmful.

Ever feed a dog? Put the food in the open palm of your hand and you're fine.

But hold the food between your fingers and many dogs don't have the dexterity (or perhaps just plain dumb and hyper it's getting food), and may bite your fingers by accident. Not a big deal if you're an adult as it's rarely hard enough to actually hurt or cut you. But more of a problem if a small kid is trying to feed a dog and doesn't know how to safely.

 

[Mazzi]

hope this post doesn't cause a stir.. i've had my fair share of drinks this evening

but to me. Pitts bulls are like the black people of dogs.

Statistics will show you you pitts bulls bite the most people, child attacks etc. isn't this what we see with black population and shootings, robbings, and what not? statistically... ?

I think for that, they get a bad rap. Truth is often times they are just a product of their environment unfortunately. just as i have awesome friends who happen to be black :adoration: I also know some owners with adorable, gentle, pit bulls :adoration:

this is the most retarded logic EVER.

 

[Occasionally]

Growing up, our neighbourhood didn't have a lot of dogs, but all I know is any house in the neighbourhood that had a german shepard, those fucking dogs were the meanest. They were all black or brown with dark mouth (just like in WWII pics of soldiers with them). They would bark violently at anything and thank god they didn't hop any of their chain linked fences, because if they did I swear no kid would have a chance.

These dogs seem born and bred to seek out and destroy whatever walk by.

Here is the type of stuff 3 homes in my neighbourhood had growing up. But instead of indoors, all these dogs would run up to the fence and bark at every kid walking boy ready to rip their heads off.

 

[Ceiling Cat]

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=452_1419997819

 

[frankcastle]

Absolutely pitbulls are more dangerous than other dogs because they are big, strong and stubborn...... when one goes out of control it is very hard to physically control.

First off I am a dog owner and lover BUT watching the differences in different breeds it is undeniable to me that nature and nurture both play important parts in determining the behavior of a dog.

From the nurture point of view..... the type of guy who buys a pitbull is more likely to be a douche bag in general. He's the type of guy who uses his dog as an accessory to his tattoos and Affliction t shirts. I'm partly joking but there is an attraction to pitbulls for young guys who don't really know how to raise a dog and treat the dog like a prop. The bigger/stronger dogs need a much more firm and knowledgeable master because when things go wrong with a pitbull the damage they cause is far greater than a rabid lap dog.

From a nature point of view..... dogs are genetically predisposed to herd, fetch, guard, be lap dogs, fight. Which means with poor training and supervision dogs will revert to what is ingrained in their DNA. So much of the way a dog is built has been carefully selected.... for example the jaw and snout of bulldogs is to allow blood to flow away from its eyes while it fights a bull and the jaw is selected to it is able to grab and hang on. In the case of the pitbull it is undeniable that strength, tenacity and aggressiveness have been selected for over the years. People forget that a cute dog like a daschund was bred to go into holes and fight vermin/pets.... so while they are cute they also have a side that needs to be respected.

Owners play a role too..... many owners have a very lackadaisicle attitude towards their dogs. They let them roam very far away from them at dog parks and believe their dogs would never hurt another dog.

Maybe the solution is that you have to be licenced to own a dog and demonstrate that you can control it and it is not going to be a risk to other people.

 

[dbiz2]

Jeez, you all just love to rant on about loveable pit bulls. As you can read, they just want to have fun...

Man kills pit bull that attacked his dog on walk in Roseville

8:03 a.m. ET July 10, 2017. A Roseville man pulled a handgun and fatally shot a pit bull Saturday morning after it attacked his own dog, leaving cuts on its face and head, police said.

The 52-year-old man was on a walk with his leashed Mastiff at about 10:30 a.m. on the 26000 block of Lehner Street when two dogs, a pit bull and a lab mix, escaped a nearby home's backyard, "squeezing themselves out between a gap in the fence," according to a news release from Roseville Police Department.

The pit bull then attacked the Mastiff, "apparently without provocation," and the man first tried to fight it off, witnesses told police. Fearing for his dog's life, the man pulled a handgun and shot the pit bull twice, killing it, police said.

The Mastiff had numerous cuts to his face and head, but they don't appear to be life-threatening; the dog was taken to emergency veterinary care, the release said.

The Mastiff's owner, who was uninjured, is licensed to carry a concealed pistol, and the gun is registered to him. An investigation remains underway, police said.

In a separate Roseville incident in May, a 52-year-old woman and her 51-year-old boyfriend were mauled by her son's pit bull, and multiple surgeries were needed to repair the boyfriend's arm. Police used a Taser to incapacitate the 1-year-old pit bull, and it was later euthanized, police said.

Source: Detroit Free Press

 

[dbiz2]

People forget that a cute dog like a daschund was bred to go into holes and fight vermin/pets.... so while they are cute they also have a side that needs to be respected.

Cute my ass...

 

[frankcastle]

Cute my ass...

Plenyt of owners out there who would disagree with you. Most owners are not farmers with a rodent problem.

That's the nice thing about dogs there's one for everyone.

 

[dbiz2]

Plenyt of owners out there who would disagree with you. Most owners are not farmers with a rodent problem.

That's the nice thing about dogs there's one for everyone.

It was a "tongue and cheek" comment...and this was a farm problem, looked like an urban area. If someone had a rodent problem in their apartment, forget the cat, this type of breed would do just fine...

 

[frankcastle]

It was a "tongue and cheek" comment...and this was a farm problem, looked like an urban area. If someone had a rodent problem in their apartment, forget the cat, this type of breed would do just fine...

Sorry. missed your joke.

 

[dbiz2]

Cute my ass...

Might have to change this thread to Dangerous Rat-Hunting Breeds...in short order, the top 10 breeds for hunting and killing vermin:


Top 10 Dog Breeds for Catching Rats
Rat Terrier
Cairn Terrier
Yorkshire Terrier
Norfolk Terrier
Jack Russell Terrier
West Highland White Terrier
Dachshund
Miniature Schnauzer
Lakeland Terrier
German Pinscher

 

[lomotil]

A greater percentage of violent assholes own pitbulls then other breds which is part of the problem. This type of owner amplifies the natural aggression in these dogs exponentially.

 

[FAST]

Might have to change this thread to Dangerous Rat-Hunting Breeds...in short order, the top 10 breeds for hunting and killing vermin:


Top 10 Dog Breeds for Catching Rats
Rat Terrier
Cairn Terrier
Yorkshire Terrier
Norfolk Terrier
Jack Russell Terrier
West Highland White Terrier
Dachshund
Miniature Schnauzer
Lakeland Terrier
German Pinscher

We had a Yorkie for a number of years,...and that thing was fearless.

I can see it ripping a rat to pieces.

But still was a good pet.

 

[Catherine St.Claire]

I think the issue is that power breeds in general are not handled properly in densely populated areas. Pit bulls need a tremendous amount of challenging physical activity to keep their energy levels stable and it's almost impossible to achieve that daily in a city. Well bred power breeds who daily are exercised, socialized and mentally challenged don't act out as long as they have a master in charge. The problem is people getting these animals as house pets and treating them like lap dogs then wonder why they have behavioural problems. I grew up with a pack of mixed power breeds but we had 20 acres, they all had jobs to do and did them. The problem isn't limited to the abusers of pits, it's shared by many owners who simply have no clue what they're doing.

I have a healthy respect for all dogs but not a fear of them. I have a small beastie that needs 10kms a day walks and constant games to keep him focused but because he's a puppy mill alumni, I don't ever trust him around other dogs and I give power breeds wide berth when we are out walking. Not because I don't trust them but because I don't trust my miniature hound of hell. If I'm alone, I love to meet pits whose owners seem to know what they're doing.

smiles, cat

 

[james t kirk]

It's not just the dog's temperament. The dog itself is massively powerful, being specially bred for dog combat to the death. And it attracts a "certain type" of owner - usually a nasty prick punk with attitude in his early 20's who revels in the feeling of power that having a tough dog gives him and who doesn't bother to train or discipline the animal.

You are absolutely correct until the part about the punk-ass not bothering to train or discipline the dog.

The truth is that the punk ass trains the dog to be a monster and does so by beating the dog up repeatedly.

 

[FAST]

You are absolutely correct until the part about the punk-ass not bothering to train or discipline the dog.

The truth is that the punk ass trains the dog to be a monster and does so by beating the dog up repeatedly.

And that is the obvious well known truth.

 

[FAST]

I think the issue is that power breeds in general are not handled properly in densely populated areas. Pit bulls need a tremendous amount of challenging physical activity to keep their energy levels stable and it's almost impossible to achieve that daily in a city. Well bred power breeds who daily are exercised, socialized and mentally challenged don't act out as long as they have a master in charge. The problem is people getting these animals as house pets and treating them like lap dogs then wonder why they have behavioural problems. I grew up with a pack of mixed power breeds but we had 20 acres, they all had jobs to do and did them. The problem isn't limited to the abusers of pits, it's shared by many owners who simply have no clue what they're doing.

I have a healthy respect for all dogs but not a fear of them. I have a small beastie that needs 10kms a day walks and constant games to keep him focused but because he's a puppy mill alumni, I don't ever trust him around other dogs and I give power breeds wide berth when we are out walking. Not because I don't trust them but because I don't trust my miniature hound of hell. If I'm alone, I love to meet pits whose owners seem to know what they're doing.

smiles, cat

Lived on a farm until late teens that included chickens.

We couldn't afford good fencing, so once in a while a chicken would get loose, the stray dog that adopted us figured out what was going on,...and would chase the chicken down, the chickens also figured out what was going on, so they would crouch down, and our mongrel would put his head on the chickens back until we went over an retrieved the chicken.

Saw a short video on Global news at a dog park, were this pit bull was lying on its back while a little dog was attacking him,...they both were having a lot of fun.

But as you noted,...owners have to be at very least,... more intelligent than their pet.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Personally,I believe all dogs to be dangerous.You never know what's going through their minds.A gentle dog can turn in a second. All dogs should be leashed and muzzled once they walk out the owners door.

I thought pit bulls were the most unpredictable, or that their bites are more dangerous since they lock their jaws?

I've seen gentle pit bulls so maybe they get a bad rap, although they are sort of intimidating. Maybe they sense our fear or apprehension? Rottweilers are also intimidating as our German Shepherds.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I saw a pitbull tear apart a shih tzu on College St just before the ban. A buddy also had his Jack Russell torn apart by a pit bull around the same time. As far as I am concerned, they are dangerous as fuck and the best thing that ever happened was the banning.

It's not just the dog's temperament. The dog itself is massively powerful, being specially bred for dog combat to the death. And it attracts a "certain type" of owner - usually a nasty prick punk with attitude in his early 20's who revels in the feeling of power that having a tough dog gives him and who doesn't bother to train or discipline the animal.

I tend to agree with Oagre followed by what James Kirk and Lomotil said.