★ Pitbulls, dangerous or not dangerous?

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Better know the dogs past before acquiring it.
 

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Pit bulls are like sharks. They get a bad rap because of their size and the damage they can inflict when they bite.

It is a misconception that pit bulls were bread to kill each other. Only the truly unknowing would think such. Today's pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other. Look it up, this is a fact.

I've had two Pit bulls, both never bit a single person or any animal their entire lives. When one would want to because a friend or relative was being aggressive with them they would go to bite but hesitate and stop. They would look at me and could tell by the look on my face that I would not approve and that it would be wrong for them to follow through. One in particular would walk away and go do something else when something like this would occur, I never had to say a word...just a look.

The second one I had from the time he was four weeks old. The mother had too many pups and my friend asked me to take one earlier than normal. I had to give him doggy pablum for the first four weeks until he was big enough to eat regular dog food. Until he was large enough to intimidate people I could walk around with him without a leash, he always stayed within three feet from me. If I stopped just to test it out he would sense it, turn around to look at me and take a few steps back just to make sure he was within this three foot perimeter. He loved cheese. I could tell him to sit and stay while I went to the fridge and took out some cheese. I would then go into my living room and place the cheese on the floor. I could go back into the kitchen and that dog would not have moved an inch. I sometimes waited up to five minutes before saying, "Go". I trusted that dog more than I've ever trusted anyone outside of my immediate family, he knew he could and trusted me just the same.

My point of all this is that my Pit bulls weren't born differently than any other Pit bull, they had no extra IQ or different genes than any other. Pit bulls, much like any other dog, are in a sense like children. They need to be loved, respected and disciplined. Taught how to and how not to behave right from a young age. A misbehaved dog, like a misbehaved normal child, can only be blamed on their parents (owners).

Don't hate the breed. Hate bad owners.

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You're obviously a good dog owner.

I still think the problem is BOTH breed and owner because at least if a bad owner has a miniature poodle the damage it will cause is far less than as an earlier poster said "power breed"
 

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Chihuahuas are going to give you a little nip on the ankle before you chuckle and push them away. Pit bulls are going to rip your leg open. Big difference in strength and power.
Not to the throat of an infant or young child. To their paper thin flesh any dog can kill them. There was a recent one in the last 2 years in Quebec I believe that was a pomerianian that killed a 2 year old.
 

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I saw a pitbull tear apart a shih tzu on College St just before the ban. A buddy also had his Jack Russell torn apart by a pit bull around the same time. As far as I am concerned, they are dangerous as fuck and the best thing that ever happened was the banning.

It's not just the dog's temperament. The dog itself is massively powerful, being specially bred for dog combat to the death. And it attracts a "certain type" of owner - usually a nasty prick punk with attitude in his early 20's who revels in the feeling of power that having a tough dog gives him and who doesn't bother to train or discipline the animal.
Another thing I forgot to meniton. Pitbulls are not even close to the only breed that was bred to fight to the death. Many of the terrier, hunting and mastiff breeds were all created to fight either humans, other dogs or bulls to the death.
 

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You need a licence for a car or gun. I think you need one for dogs too (and I say that as a dog owner).
 

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Another thing I forgot to meniton. Pitbulls are not even close to the only breed that was bred to fight to the death. Many of the terrier, hunting and mastiff breeds were all created to fight either humans, other dogs or bulls to the death.
No comparison between the power of a wire fox terrier and a pit bull. My uncle had a WFT and it was an annoying little fucker - totally untrainable, hyper and terrorized the neighbourhood kids by chasing them and biting their legs. The dog took a chunk out of my hand, but no big deal. I didn't even need stitches. If that was a pit bull that bit me, I would have had major damage to my hand.
 

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Old saying is there are no bad dogs, just bad owners. I had a pitbull years ago and she was a sweet luvable dog who was friendly to everyone and other dogs too. She was always gentle and loved attention!
 

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Old saying is there are no bad dogs, just bad owners. I had a pitbull years ago and she was a sweet luvable dog who was friendly to everyone and other dogs too. She was always gentle and loved attention!
For such a dangerous dog,...they sure are affectionate, aren't they.

And they truly appreciate the attention that you give them.

A car in the hands of an idiot, can also be dangerous.
 

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sorry but ive had dogs all my life. From when I was a baby till now. My parents currently have four dogs. One german shephed(female), one lab/ german shepherd mix (female), one lab,husky, Australian sheep herding dog (male) and one Australian duck toller (male.).

Now with that being said the common question is how does your house function and how do your dogs all get along. Well its as the saying goes.... THE APPLE DOES NOT FALL FAR FROM THE TREE. This applies to dogs as well. I say that because if you get a puppy , it is exactly like a child minus the going outside to use the washroom and the walks. You have to train it, make sure it knows basics command and if you want a FRIENDLY dog then you have to let it play with OTHER DOGS. That is how u get nice dogs.

Dogs are exact replica's of their owners. If a owner is mean then most likely the dog will be mean and vicious because that is how the owner would train it. Others train their dogs to be friendly and others train their dogs to hunt.

German shepherds are actually meaner than pitbulls. Remember back in the day when the same thing was said about german shepherds and then the police started using them for the canine unit? They are the best alarm system ever. Remember I tell all of you that . I know well because I have one and she is the sweetest dog ever unless you get on her badside.

My friend had two pitbulls, one blue nose, one red nose. The blue nose was trained to be nice but was also trained to watch the house and he is probably the smartest dog I ever met . The girl on the other hand... LOL. let me just say shes not the brightest lightbulb in the pack. However she is territorial and protects her owner when she needs to. Dogs can also be vicious because they were abused/ tortured.

To me unless you have a pitbull you are not one to judge. Everything we hear in the news is hearsay and generally we only hear one side of the story. We got to remember their is THREE sides to every story. HIS, HERS, and the TRUTH ! I hope this information was helpful to all those non dog lovers and pitbull haters on this board. The owners should be the ones to blame. Not the dogs.
 

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Judging by all the comments in this thread, I'm almost positive none of you own dogs, minus a few.

Dogs are trained to do what you want them to do. If you want to have a dog to guard, you train them for that. I have a friend who trains police dogs. They are fed frozen meat, do you know why? Incase someone tries to get on their good side with a treat, they will not take it. If you raise a dog to fight all it's life, that is what they will do.

I have a Lab, she's known as the gentle giant. Labs were bred to retrieve ducks and such, hence their names. Labrador Retriever. They can pick up a duck in it's mouth, and bring it back to his master without injuring that duck.

Certain dogs are known for certain things. Labs retrieve, Hounds sniff out. etc etc. Pitbulls are very docile animals. I've owned one. Not a mean bone in her whole body. Did she have the ability to hurt someone? Sure, all dogs do. Did she ever, NO, but if you train them that biting down on things and then praising them for that, they will think that's a good thing. They are simple creatures. It's all in the training. Each dog has it's own traits. Some are lap dogs, some are high exercise. Way to many people get dogs and they don't even know how to bring the best out of them.

Your dog is a product of how YOU RAISE THEM.
 

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exactly what I said. Labs are gorgeous ! I had a lab when I was 3 till 13. She unfortunately passed before we moved . But then I got my husky and hes going on 12 years old....
Judging by all the comments in this thread, I'm almost positive none of you own dogs, minus a few.

Dogs are trained to do what you want them to do. If you want to have a dog to guard, you train them for that. I have a friend who trains police dogs. They are fed frozen meat, do you know why? Incase someone tries to get on their good side with a treat, they will not take it. If you raise a dog to fight all it's life, that is what they will do.

I have a Lab, she's known as the gentle giant. Labs were bred to retrieve ducks and such, hence their names. Labrador Retriever. They can pick up a duck in it's mouth, and bring it back to his master without injuring that duck.

Certain dogs are known for certain things. Labs retrieve, Hounds sniff out. etc etc.

Your dog is a product of how YOU RAISE THEM.
 

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Judging by all the comments in this thread, I'm almost positive none of you own dogs, minus a few.

Dogs are trained to do what you want them to do. If you want to have a dog to guard, you train them for that. I have a friend who trains police dogs. They are fed frozen meat, do you know why? Incase someone tries to get on their good side with a treat, they will not take it. If you raise a dog to fight all it's life, that is what they will do.

I have a Lab, she's known as the gentle giant. Labs were bred to retrieve ducks and such, hence their names. Labrador Retriever. They can pick up a duck in it's mouth, and bring it back to his master without injuring that duck.

Certain dogs are known for certain things. Labs retrieve, Hounds sniff out. etc etc. Pitbulls are very docile animals, but if you train them that biting down on things and then praises them for that, they will think that's a good thing. They are simple creatures. It's all in the training. Each dog has it's own traits. Some are lap dogs, some are high exercise. Way to many people get dogs and they don't even know how to bring the best out of them.

Your dog is a product of how YOU RAISE THEM.

pit bills are specifically bread to be violent and dangerous. constantly repeating it's not the dogs it's the owners excuse does not make it true

In the 12-year period of 2005 through 2016, canines killed 392 Americans. Pit bulls contributed to 65% (254) of these deaths. Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers contributed to 76% of the total recorded deaths. |

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php
 

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exactly what I said. Labs are gorgeous ! I had a lab when I was 3 till 13. She unfortunately passed before we moved . But then I got my husky and hes going on 12 years old....
That's the one downside. They aren't here for a long time, but boy do they ever leave an impact. I'm not looking forward to the day mine goes. She's 11 now, but still acts like a puppy, typical lab.
 

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pit bills are specifically bread to be violent and dangerous. constantly repeating it's not the dogs it's the owners excuse does not make it true

In the 12-year period of 2005 through 2016, canines killed 392 Americans. Pit bulls contributed to 65% (254) of these deaths. Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers contributed to 76% of the total recorded deaths. |

http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2016.php
Thats because typically the type of people who get pitbulls get them for fighing. They are not trained properly. I had one, I should know.
 

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yes its unfortunate. :( Canada -man let me ask you this do you think when a puppy is small it knows what its doing ? Or how about puppy rotweillers or puppy pitbulls?

They have to be trained to act a certain way ! Police dogs act the way they do because that's how they were trained!!!! So if a dog is vicious and the sign on a house or even on property that BEWARE OF DOG! is that not a warning to not go near it? Wouldn't that mean that the reason the dog attacked is because you gave it a MOTIVE to ? Like I said their is 254 other stories to those deaths ! The only thing you see in the media is NEGATIVE. That's what the media does promotes NEGATIVE issues to make people not want to do something or not want to get a certain thing. At the end of the day an owner trains a dog. Yes dogs can be not trained properly , it happens but again that's the OWNERS fault , not the dogs.
That's the one downside. They aren't here for a long time, but boy do they ever leave an impact. I'm not looking forward to the day mine goes. She's 11 now, but still acts like a puppy, typical lab.
 

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yes its unfortunate. :( Canada -man let me ask you this do you think when a puppy is small it knows what its doing ? Or how about puppy rotweillers or puppy pitbulls?

They have to be trained to act a certain way ! Police dogs act the way they do because that's how they were trained!!!! So if a dog is vicious and the sign on a house or even on property that BEWARE OF DOG! is that not a warning to not go near it? Wouldn't that mean that the reason the dog attacked is because you gave it a MOTIVE to ? Like I said their is 254 other stories to those deaths ! The only thing you see in the media is NEGATIVE. That's what the media does promotes NEGATIVE issues to make people not want to do something or not want to get a certain thing. At the end of the day an owner trains a dog. Yes dogs can be not trained properly , it happens but again that's the OWNERS fault , not the dogs.
sorry you just repeat what pit bull advocates always say when face with facts that their precious pits are the most dangerous dogs out there. pit bulls are known for unprovoked attacks the media when reporting on pit bull attacks only reporting on facts. the repeated excuses and denials does not change the fact that they are a dangerous breed


https://terriermandotcom.blogspot.ca/2014/05/the-denial-and-broken-excuses-of-pit.html

http://bslforpitsmakessense.blogspot.ca/2010/07/10-popular-pit-bull-excuses.html


Pit bulls unlike guns are not regulated
 

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canada-man...
You're the one who just keeps saying the same stuff.
You're hopeless. I respected you and your posts before, but you are proving yourself not worthy of such IMO.
so because i don' agree with your pit bull apologism, excuses and denials i am hopeless and not worthy of respect? is this how how pit bull advocates act towards who disagree with them. you are acting like SJWs who are triggered by criticism
 
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