Reverie

Have you given up your land line?

Have you given up your land line?

  • Yes

    Votes: 51 60.7%
  • No

    Votes: 33 39.3%

  • Total voters
    84
  • Poll closed .

sweetiepieexo

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anywhere i want;)
no I meant to use can. But thanks for trying to correct me. :) I am not referring the past I am using it in present tense.

Kodi users CAN face ten years in prison if they are CAUGHT. that's all I was trying to say. thanks for the English lesson though.


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/can


'Could' and 'UK' being operative in that. Kodi isn't the problem, it's Kodi users breaking (often dumb) laws in some jurisdictions like the UK.
 

Butler1000

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no I meant to use can. But thanks for trying to correct me. :) I am not referring the past I am using it in present tense.

Kodi users CAN face ten years in prison if they are CAUGHT. that's all I was trying to say. thanks for the English lesson though.


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/can
Still fine in Canada. Works great! Somehow I doubt the Kodi Kops will be coming after me anytime soon.
 

sweetiepieexo

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anywhere i want;)
I know this lol. The way I look at it is that since we are allies with Britain and the queen approves our laws and such then if she approves it there then it wont be long before they say its illegal in Canada. I am not saying for sure it will happen but there is a possibility.


Still fine in Canada. Works great! Somehow I doubt the Kodi Kops will be coming after me anytime soon.
 

Twister

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Still fine in Canada. Works great! Somehow I doubt the Kodi Kops will be coming after me anytime soon.
You can add a VPN to your kodi boc I think. But the movie/movies companies are watching torrents etc, that is how they nail people in the States. They tried it here to a couple of years ago, but it didn't work. But if the laws change, they know what you've streamed.
 

The Options Menu

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They tried it here to a couple of years ago, but it didn't work.
They did pass stronger copyright laws here, enough to get the US off our backs for now. There was a huge fight, and a lot of people stepped up to 'encourage' the Conservatives to modify the proposed law. The crux of the law in Canada is that ISPs, all ISPs, are obligated to pass along notices from copyright holders. This is, "Notice and Notify." These notices can say anything (even if it's not part of the Canadian law, and they can be very deceptive), and it's best to ignore than AND NEVER RESPOND TO THEM. The other big part of the law was damages for infringement. The Conservatives, cleverly, set these damages to be very reasonable, and the law expressly states that damages are can be mitigated by circumstances. With that in mind no copyright holder has ever taken a Canadian citizen to court, AFAIK. It's simply not worth the effort. With that being said, pretty much any VPN will protect you from, "Notice and Notify.", and having a VPN is handy for things like connecting to public wifi, etc.
 

oldjones

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You can add a VPN to your kodi boc I think. But the movie/movies companies are watching torrents etc, that is how they nail people in the States. They tried it here to a couple of years ago, but it didn't work. But if the laws change, they know what you've streamed.
Of course every country has its own laws about 'piracy' specifics, but the general principles are the same. Essentially, you can watch/see what you want, but you cannot copy/share/distribute it, because someone paid the original owner for the right to do that in your country. Or as often happens, hasn't yet signed a deal to do it in Canada, so that show's 'not available' here, even if your friends in Buffalo are watching it, and you could too if it was OTA.

Torrents work because downloaders/leechers also share/seed what they get. As it comes in, it's also going out, and that's when the anti-piracy agents glom onto the seeder's IP then make the ISPs forward threatening letters to the account-holders for IP numbers they collect. That much Canadian law lets them do on their own. Any version of a next step requires expensive lawyers, and precedent-setting court decisions and orders to collect smallish amounts — actual and punitive damages — from individuals they will eventually have to prove cases against one by one.

The threats are cheaper, and like spam, even if only a few work, you've still made a profit.
 

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They did pass stronger copyright laws here, enough to get the US off our backs for now. There was a huge fight, and a lot of people stepped up to 'encourage' the Conservatives to modify the proposed law. The crux of the law in Canada is that ISPs, all ISPs, are obligated to pass along notices from copyright holders. This is, "Notice and Notify." These notices can say anything (even if it's not part of the Canadian law, and they can be very deceptive), and it's best to ignore than AND NEVER RESPOND TO THEM. The other big part of the law was damages for infringement. The Conservatives, cleverly, set these damages to be very reasonable, and the law expressly states that damages are can be mitigated by circumstances. With that in mind no copyright holder has ever taken a Canadian citizen to court, AFAIK. It's simply not worth the effort. With that being said, pretty much any VPN will protect you from, "Notice and Notify.", and having a VPN is handy for things like connecting to public wifi, etc.
I believe Teksavy turned in the names of a bunch of customers.
 

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I believe Teksavy turned in the names of a bunch of customers.
Initially, if I remember correctly, Teksavvy tried to avoid doing this claiming it was an unreasonable burden on a small ISP, but they had to comply. All ISPs must comply with "Notice and Notify". It's not about turning people in, all ISPs have to pass a message along if somebody acting on behalf of a copyright holder reasonably believes you violated their copyright. You've already been seen. (If you don't like that get a VPN.) The message itself is often filled with lies and fear mongering designed to make you contact the people representing the rights holder, admit guilt, and give them money. Never respond. Never admit guilt. If they're actually going to try to take you to court, you'll get served. This hasn't happened yet in Canada for vanilla file traders, as the penalties are low enough that copyright holders don't view it as worth it.
 

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I believe Teksavy turned in the names of a bunch of customers.
Yes they did, but they did so only after ordered to by a judge in court. They fought it and lost. To me that still makes them more credible than Bell or Rogers who seem to pass on those notices with glee.

Probably because Bell and Rogers are content owners and think you should be paying them royalties for that content.
 

Butler1000

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Bell and Rogers pay a lot of money for content, why should they give it away for free?
If the content was commercial free they could say that. It's not. And in fact with the cable packages they make consumers pay for content they don't want. A lot of it.

If they had offered a basic package where I could choose about 30 stations and add MLB and NHL for about 50-60 bucks I would have stayed with cable.

Can't do that though can I? They continue to cling to old models and are losing thousands monthly. And more importantly not replacing them with new ones.

I've found cutting the cord I'm content.
 
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