$4 Million Lawsuit against TTC by Father/Son

[Serpent]

Which doesn't change my question: why is the TTC responsible?

Because these thugs are wearing TTC uniforms and acting as representatives of the TTC.

When US cops shoot and kill, the city is who settles and makes multi-million dollar payouts.

This all because these people derive their authority (and traning...in this case, lack thereof!) from TTC and are given authority over the public by TTC and city of Toronto.

 

[dirkd101]

Which doesn't change my question: why is the TTC responsible?

They are responsible for the conduct of their employees and also the safety of all users on their system.

 

[jimmylikes]

+1 . thats what this lawsuit is all about, the rest is noise....

Anyone who looks at the video can see the big burly TTC cop was just losing it ... drilling the younger guy with a flurry of punches to the head ( against a concrete wall) while others are holding him. It was totally unnecessary and it is clear the lug was experiencing some serious rage issues. At least now, maybe they ( and we) will find out why they were being hassled in the first place.

 

[Barca]

Maybe dad could buy son some sparring lessons with the money! Got into it with a off duty cop up north at a bar when the bouncer asked a bunch of us to leave & we laughed at him. This guy sitting at the bar pulled out his badge & said hit the road & I asked if he was under cover or off duty & he said don't matter your outta here. I said when i'm finished my drink i'll gladly be on my way & went to grab it. Mother fukker grabbed my drink & poured it out! So I grabbed his & that led to a push & shove & the prick suckered me. I got up shook it off & said fuk it & cracked him in the side of the head & gave him a few more for good measure. Holy cow did that get four police cars to show up in a hurry! Long story short the bartender who witnessed it first hand spoke to the sergeant that arrived & while they cuffed me explained that the cop didn't say I was under arrest & clearly suckered me backed up by two other witnesses. Off come the cuffs & a big shit eatin grin on SB's face & the sergeant asking me if I want to press charges or just leave this alone. Told him I didn't want to tie up the courts time with a bar fight & he shook my hand thanked me & asked us to finish our drinks & leave

I call bullshit on this story. I was a bouncer for years. The second a bouncer tells you to leave and you don't, you're trespassing, period. At the very least you would have gotten nailed for that but you're expecting us to believe cops we're so scared of you they had to grin and bare it? Right.

 

[Barca]

Because these thugs are wearing TTC uniforms and acting as representatives of the TTC.

When US cops shoot and kill, the city is who settles and makes multi-million dollar payouts.

This all because these people derive their authority (and traning...in this case, lack thereof!) from TTC and are given authority over the public by TTC and city of Toronto.

This.

 

[TeeJay]

Anyone who looks at the video can see the big burly TTC cop was just losing it ... drilling the younger guy with a flurry of punches to the head

AFTER he punched the big burly cop first then resisted arrest

 

[TeeJay]

You know this? Then you should tell the victims and their lawyer, who claim not to know why they were arrested. So... a 64 year old man who can afford Leaf tickets is sneaking into the subway??????

It is said multiple times during the video
Watch it

 

[Frankunderwood]

I call bullshit on this story. I was a bouncer for years. The second a bouncer tells you to leave and you don't, you're trespassing, period. At the very least you would have gotten nailed for that but you're expecting us to believe cops we're so scared of you they had to grin and bare it? Right.

+1. Story has BS written all over it

 

[wigglee]

When you sue for $4 million, you claim to not know lots of things including your own guilt. Tell me you weren't born yesterday.

Tell me you know something about this case....or is this just kneejerk guesswork based on personal prejudice?

 

[GPIDEAL]

The 2 fare jumped
When placed under arrest the father resisted and the son threw the first punch

The TTC cop did retaliate & probably a bit aggressive but son was in the wrong first

I thought the son punched the TTC cop because he felt he was not justified in trying to handcuff his father who was resisting arrest. Was it necessary in the first place to handcuff the father for a lousy token?

I know we mostly see the aftermath of the event in the video which looks bad on the TTC cop, but it looks like the TTC cop has a hard-on to arrest the father.

Soooo, by dropping the charges, has the TTC prejudiced itself or admitted to wrongdoing? This is what Father and Son have been waiting for, after over a year - to sue after they were cleared.

 

[Bostonmass]

The TTC cop lost control, plain and simple, doesn't matter who started it, who's at fault, he's a professional and should of known better.

Their training doesn't include pretending you're in a UFC match, he clearly "lost it".

Not saying he deserved or should enjoy getting punched in the course of his duty , but how he reacted to it, especially after the son was subdued and controlled, well, it's hard to watch, it seemed like the crowd was there to control the cop, not the other way around.

 

[dirkd101]

I thought the son punched the TTC cop because he felt he was not justified in trying to handcuff his father who was resisting arrest. Was it necessary in the first place to handcuff the father for a lousy token?

I know we mostly see the aftermath of the event in the video which looks bad on the TTC cop, but it looks like the TTC cop has a hard-on to arrest the father.

Soooo, by dropping the charges, has the TTC prejudiced itself or admitted to wrongdoing? This is what Father and Son have been waiting for, after over a year - to sue after they were cleared.

There is also TTC security video that shows the father apparently bumping into or brushing against the TTC pseudo cop. From memory, he apparently apologized and kept going, but TTC pseudo cop took exception to this egregious transgression by the father. It clearly shows that the TTC goon cops were in the wrong for stopping the pair and started this whole mess.

 

[Aardvark154]

When US cops shoot and kill, the city is who settles and makes multi-million dollar payouts.

Indeed this is why it is going to be a snowy day in July when they recover four million dollars. There was no shooting, there was no death, there was no serious bodily injury, and they started the incident.

 

[Keebler Elf]

I rather enjoyed seeing the son get punched in the face repeatedly. If his father hadn't resisted arrest, none of this would have happened. So IMO he deserved it.

Is it an abuse of power? Who cares. He deserved it.

 

[Smallcock]

There is also TTC security video that shows the father apparently bumping into or brushing against the TTC pseudo cop. From memory, he apparently apologized and kept going, but TTC pseudo cop took exception to this egregious transgression by the father. It clearly shows that the TTC goon cops were in the wrong for stopping the pair and started this whole mess.

TTC cop gets bumped accidentally and is apologized to, and then decides to get physical with the old man. Sounds legit.

 

[surferboy]

The TTC cop lost control, plain and simple, doesn't matter who started it, who's at fault, he's a professional and should of known better.

Their training doesn't include pretending you're in a UFC match, he clearly "lost it".

Not saying he deserved or should enjoy getting punched in the course of his duty , but how he reacted to it, especially after the son was subdued and controlled, well, it's hard to watch, it seemed like the crowd was there to control the cop, not the other way around.

Three lessons learned here: 1. Don't jump fare 2. If somebody has a badge & wants to cuff you don't fight it that's what a lawyers for 3. Don't punch somebody with a badge it's a recipe to get the fuk beat out of you by said badge holder or when backup arrives

Clearly a case of security cop on a power trip. But if he wants to arrest you & he has grounds for it you gotta comply. I'm sure when the real cops showed up they would have givin him a warning or ticket & let him go. Natural instinct for anybody to retaliate when you get punched but as a cop you can't turn it into a fist fight that's against the rules. These two are lucky in didn't happen in Philly they probably would have been beatin with billy clubs or mag lites!

 

[surferboy]

I call bullshit on this story. I was a bouncer for years. The second a bouncer tells you to leave and you don't, you're trespassing, period. At the very least you would have gotten nailed for that but you're expecting us to believe cops we're so scared of you they had to grin and bare it? Right.

Cops scared of me? Lol An off duty cop sucker punched me bro & tried to tell his fellow officers that I started it.

Trespassing that's funny! This was after a hockey tourney, were they going to charge more than a dozen of us with trespassing? We got thrown out of every bar/strip club from Tdot to Thunder Bay...sometimes more than once & never once got charged with trespassing

 

[colt]

I call bullshit on this story. I was a bouncer for years. The second a bouncer tells you to leave and you don't, you're trespassing, period. At the very least you would have gotten nailed for that but you're expecting us to believe cops we're so scared of you they had to grin and bare it? Right.

+1. There is not a single part of that story that rings true.

 

[dirkd101]

I find it confusing that everyone thinks this had something to do with a fare dispute;

TTC head Andy Byford said the fracas was not related to a fare dispute.

The TTC acknowledges that this had nothing to do with a fare dispute, which makes the video all the more shocking and disconcerting about thee TTC cops use of force, but they did allude to the fact that it did stem from an assault on one of their officers;

The TTC has said that there was no fare dispute involved and that the incident began after a transit officer was assaulted.

As it has been suggested from TTC security video which had apparently caught the start of this from the beginning, where the father had bumped into/brushed against said officer while going to catch the train.

But, having reviewed the CCTV footage, Byford said the video doesn’t tell the complete story.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...o-police-to-investigate-violent-incident.html

 

[TeeJay]

I thought the son punched the TTC cop because he felt he was not justified in trying to handcuff his father who was resisting arrest. Was it necessary in the first place to handcuff the father for a lousy token?

They normally write you a ticket for fare
From looks of video which joined part way in I would say defence was drunk dad refused to ID himself, then resisted arrest