I Want To Stop Seeing Escorts

aj11

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Due to a number of factors, including a fear of intimacy, shame and abandonment issues stemming from my childhood, my genetic predispositions, self-imposed stress by way of perfectionism and workaholism, and many others, I have been having protected sex with at least one escort per month, for the last three years, and I want to stop seeing escorts for a number reasons.

I do not view escorting, or having sex with escorts as being morally wrong, I don't view escorting or having sex with escorts as being objectively good or bad, and I think that whether being an escort or having sex with an escort is a positive or negative thing depends on the individual, and whether or not they are acting in alignment with their personas, interests, goals, individual values, and sense of self, and if they are thinking clearly.

The first time I saw an escort, it was after many years of fantasizing about having no strings attached sex with a woman that has a great deal of sexual experience (such as an escort or a porn star). With that said, what ultimately motivated me to see an escort was the death of a childhood friend, who died in a car accident, in his 20s.

I was in so much pain after my friend's death, I was in shock, and at the time, weed, alcohol, porn, and masturbation didn't seem like enough, in terms of numbing my pain. Fortunately, I have been sober from alcohol, weed, and porn for two years, for personal reasons. And again, I see no moral issues with alcohol, weed, and porn, but they simply didn't work for me, and my extreme personality.

Since the first time I saw an escort, despite the fact that I have had many amazing experiences with escorts, including great sex, and interesting conversations, and despite the fact that I have learned a great deal about my psychology, my sexuality, human interactions, and the escort industry through sex with escorts, more often than not, when I see escorts, it's when I am physically and psychologically burnt out, or feeling isolated, or feeling overwhelmingly anxious, or a combination of many negative emotions, as a way of managing those emotions.

As such, sex with escorts has never been something that has been completely spontaneous and carefree for me, and seeing escorts usually comes after a great deal of stress, anxiety, and isolation.

I should also mention that due to my anxiety, I have an irrational fear of passing on an asymptomatic STI to my future girlfriend, despite the fact that I get tested once a month, despite the fact that I have no STI symptoms and have never had any STI symptoms, despite the fact that I have never contracted an STI, and the riskiest thing that I have done was received about 10 BBJs since I started seeing escorts (so, about 25% of the blowjobs that I have received have been unprotected).

My therapist doesn't believe that I am a sexual addict, but she does believe that I have an extreme fear of intimacy, and that my sexual needs go unmet for long periods of time. I basically reach a point of extreme sexual deprivation (which also includes a deprivation of intimacy, and a point of spiritual deprivation), and "act out" when under various (self-imposed) forms of stress.

I basically do a lot of positive things, in terms of personal development and my career, but I take them too far, due to my anxieties, and they end up exhausting me, and burning me out.

I am 5'8, 32 years old, I look like I'm 22 years old, 193 pounds, around 12% body fat (probably less), good-looking, I can be thought of as having an A-type personality, I am very introspective, I own a marketing startup and work as a media production professional, and over the course of the last two years, after an existential crisis, I have used psychotherapy, psychedelics, acupuncture, naturopathic yoga, heavy weight training, meditation, journaling, the twelve step program known as codependents anonymous, the RTribe app for sexual compulsions and addictions, sensory deprivation, every book and podcast on psychology, philosophy, and personal development that I could find, and many other tools, to understand the nuances of my psyche, to ensure that I am physically and psychologically healthy, and to transcend my fears of intimacy and abandonment.

I no longer want to see escorts, because I would much rather have a meaningful relationship with a woman that I can learn from, a woman that accepts me for who I am, and so that I can experience the ups and downs of an intimate relationship, for more than four months, for the first time in my life.

It seems that every time I have sex with escorts, I am spending money that could be used to relieve my stress in far more adaptive, and less expensive ways, in addition to the fact that I am not dating, or getting any closer to the intimate relationship that I want to experience.

Finally, I had sex with an escort last night, we both had a great time, the sex was great, and when we were done having sex twice in an hour, she specifically said that I don't seem like a guy that sees escorts (based on my appearance, vibe, the way in which I spoke, my sexual capacities, etc.), she was surprised that I don't have a girlfriend, and she motivated me to get back onto the dating scene, and to face potential rejection (and potential joy) once again.
 
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aj11

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Sex with escorts isn't intimacy, by my definition. Sex can often be mutually exclusive in relation to intimacy.

I mean intimacy within the context of long-term dating (which can, and should include sex).

You can't discuss the depths of your fears, anxieties, aspirations, or present yourself and your entire life's history in an authentic way, within an hour or two, by having sex with an escort.

I mean intimacy and vulnerability, over an extended period of time -- months, if not years.
 

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sounds to me that having sex with an escort is strictly to scratch the itch in a time of need.

I think there is a big difference of just banging and having sex and being intimate with a partner and seeing and feeling the sparks.

i was kinda in your boat and was visting the spas all the time and it took a lot of mind over matter and self control.

Wish you the best of luck
 

aj11

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sounds to me that having sex with an escort is strictly to scratch the itch in a time of need.

I think there is a big difference of just banging and having sex and being intimate with a partner and seeing and feeling the sparks.

i was kinda in your boat and was visting the spas all the time and it took a lot of mind over matter and self control.

Wish you the best of luck
Can you describe what you mean by "mind over matter" in more detail, please?

Sheer willpower, and the hundreds of hours of research and introspection, and many other tools haven't been helping me, and often trigger the issue, by contributing to my burnouts.
 

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Good luck to you aj11.. I think I'm retiring from this hobby by 2017 not because of the reasons you have , I just think it's time to break the hobby ..
 

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Good luck

It sounds like you have a good handle on things and you're very aware of your personal situation

You obviously want a meaningful relationship with someone, that is going to be your priority. Hobbying should be a supplement to that, not a replacement. The money isn't really an issue unless it's money you can't afford to spend in the first place

My advice would be to cancel your TERB account if you really want to stop seeing escorts. But, I'd like to hear how you fare, so do stop by and give us an update in a few months

Winter is coming. Find someone nice to help keep you warm!
 

aj11

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How can you want something you're afraid of ? For example if I'm afraid of traveling to Mexico, I don't want to go there.
"A fallacy is the use of invalid or otherwise faulty reasoning, or "wrong moves" in the construction of an argument. A fallacious argument may be deceptive by appearing to be better than it really is."
 

blueadonis

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I'm in the same boat as you AJ. Pretty exact actually. I know you'll stop seeing them. I don't know what your social scene is like but the dating scene is pretty grim. A lot of game being played out there. That whole text and call thing is total BS. Online dating sucks. It takes too much time and ROI is pretty low. I don't think you'll have a problem, your obviously not addicted, your just trying to fill the biological void. If you find a place good for meeting women let's trade Intel. Better then Sharing escorts info.
 

aj11

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I'm in the same boat as you AJ. Pretty exact actually. I know you'll stop seeing them. I don't know what your social scene is like but the dating scene is pretty grim. A lot of game being played out there. That whole text and call thing is total BS. Online dating sucks. It takes too much time and ROI is pretty low. I don't think you'll have a problem, your obviously not addicted, your just trying to fill the biological void. If you find a place good for meeting women let's trade Intel. Better then Sharing escorts info.
Honestly, online dating hasn't worked for me (yet). Given my perfectionism, workaholism, and my capacity to follow through with meticulous plans, I tried online dating, in very intense and focused ways, in different intervals of three to four months, over the course of the last three years.

In the past, it didn't work for me, for a number of reasons, including some of the ones that you mentioned, and it caused me a lot of disappointment and frustration.

And yes, having sex with escorts once or twice a month probably isn't enough sex for someone my age, and I have been incredibly deprived of both sex and dating, for most of my adult life.

As far as dating in 2016 and beyond is concerned, I strongly recommend that you read or listen to the audio version of Aziz Ansari's "Modern Romance", it's an amazing and funny book, and he and his team put a lot of time and research into it. He summarizes modern dating (in different parts of the world) better than I can, that's for sure. He also does an amazing job of comparing dating in the 19th and 20th centuries to dating in the 21st century.

I will definitely let you know how I mitigate my issues, and start dating in a healthy way.
 

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This is a really heartfelt post. Thanks for sharing with us.

You are very caught up in intellectualizing and over-thinking things... that comes across in your post. (And especially in the reference to Ansari's book as well, which is a good book (probably better in print form given all the graphs/data) and likely helpful to many people, but for you it probably just provides more ammunition towards overthinking things.)

It sounds like what you've never had is a "break-in girlfriend". That's the type of first relationship you feel comfortable/deep enough in that you do a lot of things reflexively, rather than as intellectual efforts to interact. The first relationship where you're comfortable enough to be taking a dump in bathroom while she's in the shower, for example.

You should just put yourself out there and go with the flow. Online dating is much better in your 30s than in your 20s. Don't write women off for intellectual reasons at first, e.g., single mothers or others who don't meet some list of criteria... you need a relationship that's just a relationship for now. Doesn't have to be with the perfect person. Put yourself out there in other non-online areas as well of course. You can do this.
 

aj11

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Good luck

It sounds like you have a good handle on things and you're very aware of your personal situation

You obviously want a meaningful relationship with someone, that is going to be your priority. Hobbying should be a supplement to that, not a replacement. The money isn't really an issue unless it's money you can't afford to spend in the first place

My advice would be to cancel your TERB account if you really want to stop seeing escorts. But, I'd like to hear how you fare, so do stop by and give us an update in a few months

Winter is coming. Find someone nice to help keep you warm!
Thank you so much.

The money is somewhat of an issue, but not nearly as big of an issue as my fear of intimacy, feelings of unworthiness, my lack of a dating life, my abandonment issues, and so on.
 

surferboy

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Due to a number of factors, including a fear of intimacy, shame and abandonment issues stemming from my childhood, my genetic predispositions, self-imposed stress by way of perfectionism and workaholism, and many others, I have been having protected sex with at least one escort per month, for the last three years, and I want to stop seeing escorts for a number reasons.

I do not view escorting, or having sex with escorts as being morally wrong, I don't view escorting or having sex with escorts as being objectively good or bad, and I think that whether being an escort or having sex with an escort is a positive or negative thing depends on the individual, and whether or not they are acting in alignment with their personas, interests, goals, individual values, and sense of self, and if they are thinking clearly.

The first time I saw an escort, it was after many years of fantasizing about having no strings attached sex with a woman that has a great deal of sexual experience (such as an escort or a porn star). With that said, what ultimately motivated me to see an escort was the death of a childhood friend, who died in a car accident, in his 20s.

I was in so much pain after my friend's death, I was in shock, and at the time, weed, alcohol, porn, and masturbation didn't seem like enough, in terms of numbing my pain. Fortunately, I have been sober from alcohol, weed, and porn for two years, for personal reasons. And again, I see no moral issues with alcohol, weed, and porn, but they simply didn't work for me, and my extreme personality.

Since the first time I saw an escort, despite the fact that I have had many amazing experiences with escorts, including great sex, and interesting conversations, and despite the fact that I have learned a great deal about my psychology, my sexuality, human interactions, and the escort industry through sex with escorts, more often than not, when I see escorts, it's when I am physically and psychologically burnt out, or feeling isolated, or feeling overwhelmingly anxious, or a combination of many negative emotions, as a way of managing those emotions.

As such, sex with escorts has never been something that has been completely spontaneous and carefree for me, and seeing escorts usually comes after a great deal of stress, anxiety, and isolation.

I should also mention that due to my anxiety, I have an irrational fear of passing on an asymptomatic STI to my future girlfriend, despite the fact that I get tested once a month, despite the fact that I have no STI symptoms and have never had any STI symptoms, despite the fact that I have never contracted an STI, and the riskiest thing that I have done was received about 10 BBJs since I started since escort (so, about 25% of the blowjobs that I have received have been unprotected).

My therapist doesn't believe that I am a sexual addict, but she does believe that I have an extreme fear of intimacy, and that my sexual needs go unmet for long periods of time. I basically reach a point of extreme sexual deprivation (which also includes a deprivation of intimacy, and a point of spiritual deprivation), and "act out" when under various (self-imposed) forms of stress.

I basically do a lot of positive things, in terms of personal development and my career, but I take them too far, due to my anxieties, and they end up exhausting me, and burning me out.

I am 5'8, 32 years old, I look like I'm 22 years old, 193 pounds, around 12% body fat (probably less), good-looking, I can be thought of as having an A-type personality, I am very introspective, I own a marketing startup and work as a media production professional, and over the course of the last two years, after an existential crisis, I have used psychotherapy, psychedelics, acupuncture, naturopathic yoga, heavy weight training, meditation, journaling, the twelve step program known as codependents anonymous, the RTribe app for sexual compulsions and addictions, sensory deprivation, every book and podcast on psychology, philosophy, and personal development that I could find, and many other tools, to understand the nuances of my psyche, to ensure that I am physically and psychologically healthy, and to transcend my fears of intimacy and abandonment.

I no longer want to see escorts, because I would much rather have a meaningful relationship with a woman that I can learn from, a woman that accepts me for who I am, and so that I can experience the ups and downs of an intimate relationship, for more than four months, for the first time in my life.

It seems that every time I have sex with escorts, I am spending money that could be used to relieve my stress in far more adaptive, and less expensive ways, in addition to the fact that I am not dating, or getting any closer to the intimate relationship that I want to experience.

Finally, I had sex with an escort last night, we both had a great time, the sex was great, and when we were done having sex twice in an hour, she specifically said that I don't seem like a guy that sees escorts (based on my appearance, vibe, the way in which I spoke, my sexual capacities, etc.), she was surprised that I don't have a girlfriend, and she motivated me to get back onto the dating scene, and to face potential rejection (and potential joy) once again.
Jesus murphy you sound a little complicated bud! Three suggestions for you. Wanna get laid & not pay an escort... Tinder my friend(you'll find out after texting, drinks, dinner that if your times worth anything an escort is usually cheaper). If your serious about a having a relationship try E harmony or if you Christian, Christian Mingle. A couple people I know have had great success with both & have seemed to find happiness. My last advice don't over analyze things(this is hard for A type's), life's not made to be perfect. When it gives you lemons, make lemonade. Everyday your above the lawn is a good day my friend!
 

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Too long, lost interest about 1/4 in. I see escorts when I want to bust a nut with a female as opposed to a paper towel.

Having said that, my unwillingness to settle down boils down to being with one woman the rest of my life and that terrifies me.
 
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OP, you need to learn to trust that not everyone will hurt you. Escorts can put a bandaid on some issues and satisfy that instant gratification, but you need to head into a different direction if you are looking for something different than that. Its important to be completely honest with your issues so someone special will know where you are coming from. Don't ever be shy or ashamed to share your story, we all have one.

I believe with enough faith and your basic need to be with someone who really loves you for you, will happen for you one day. Just the fact that you are wanting more speaks volumes about what your true soul really wants. It's important to own your insecurities, but know that, that is what they are, just insecurities. People won't see you the way you see yourself.

We can be our own worst enemies sometimes. Positive thought reinforcing helped me whenever a bad thought came into mind about myself. For example: When I was a massage attendant, thoughts would creep into my head about what kind of man would love a girl like me, who has touched so many men. Once those thoughts entered my mind, I would stop myself(which is hard to do sometimes) and tell myself something positive. End of the story, I did find someone who loved me for who I was, flaws and all, and the rest is history as they say.

Don't lose faith, your time will come, you are still a young pup. You are worth being loved, and to give love, and I wish you luck in your future endeavors.
 

blueadonis

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OP, you need to learn to trust that not everyone will hurt you. Escorts can put a bandaid on some issues and satisfy that instant gratification, but you need to head into a different direction if you are looking for something different than that. Its important to be completely honest with your issues so someone special will know where you are coming from. Don't ever be shy or ashamed to share your story, we all have one.

I believe with enough faith and your basic need to be with someone who really loves you for you, will happen for you one day. Just the fact that you are wanting more speaks volumes about what your true soul really wants. It's important to own your insecurities, but know that, that is what they are, just insecurities. People won't see you the way you see yourself.

We can be our own worst enemies sometimes. Positive thought reinforcing helped me whenever a bad thought came into mind about myself. For example: When I was a massage attendant, thoughts would creep into my head about what kind of man would love a girl like me, who has touched so many men. Once those thoughts entered my mind, I would stop myself(which is hard to do sometimes) and tell myself something positive. End of the story, I did find someone who loved me for who I was, flaws and all, and the rest is history as they say.

Don't lose faith, your time will come, you are still a young pup. You are worth being loved, and to give love, and I wish you luck in your future endeavors.
I find this generation of women aren't too interested in witnessing vulnerability. Least not too early in the courting scene. Being guarded in the beginning actually promotes a bit of mystery. But if your like an open book in the beginning the women tend to start walking out the door and looking for someone else almost immediately.
Ideologically it would be great for a man to just let their guard down and put their feet up but in today's world, women see it as a sign of weakness. Or that your a loon. I'm not saying a man can't do it but later on, not in the courting stage.
Women on the other hand want to be able to gab and for that suitor to LISTEN. If you start to complain about your problems to her so early BA-BYE. She will lose interest FAST. It's a case of Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus. AJ I'm not going to tell you the ideological, I'm telling you the REAL reactions so you can succeed on your journey.
 
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