Trump's speech was cliche and badly delivered. Clinton's cocession speech was emotional, classy, dignified and inspiring.
Putin/Comey win
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Democrats went out of their way to run a candidate full of weaknesses, they need to face the reality of what they have done and not blame Comey or Putin. I was pro Democrat but when they fired that schultz woman and then f*cking hired her again a week later, that was just kicking dirt into the faces of sensible people. Much of that anti establishment bernie support base did not go to hillary Clinton, they went to another anti establishment candidate; Trump. If Hillary at all cares about the Democratic party she needs to admit that it was a mistake for her to be the Democratic nominee, Democrats need to see the error so that they can fix it for the next election.
Wrong. The election was decided by a difference of 1.2% i versus a shift in the polls of over 2%v for to Comey. The vote wound up being within normal error of the polls, meaning they were only wrong, state by state, by an amount similar to the polling error in the last few elections.State by state they were off by a lot more then that.
These facts aren't going to change.
Lying doesn't save you. The Russian hackers clearly had a big impact on the election. Period.No. Hillary Fucking around on an unsecured server and being caught lying to congress and the American people effected the election.
Bullshit. She isn't even accused of anything, there's nothing to pardon her for and no evidence of wrongdoing. Repeating this lie over and over just makes you a liar.If Clinton were anybody else, they'd be locked up already. She should have been disqualified from running in the first place.
Obama will pardon her, so the issue is dead from the standpoint of justice anyway.
Better hope he does pardon her. Lots of time and no DOJ interference this time around.Bullshit. She isn't even accused of anything, there's nothing to pardon her for and no evidence of wrongdoing. Repeating this lie over and over just makes you a liar.
Its true, Sanders would have been the smart and progressive choice.Democrats went out of their way to run a candidate full of weaknesses, they need to face the reality of what they have done and not blame Comey or Putin. I was pro Democrat but when they fired that schultz woman and then f*cking hired her again a week later, that was just kicking dirt into the faces of sensible people. Much of that anti establishment bernie support base did not go to hillary Clinton, they went to another anti establishment candidate; Trump. If Hillary at all cares about the Democratic party she needs to admit that it was a mistake for her to be the Democratic nominee, Democrats need to see the error so that they can fix it for the next election.
The democratic machine screwed up big time.
Progressive - yes, popular with the far left - yes, particularly electable and hence a smart choice - noIts true, Sanders would have been the smart and progressive choice.
The democratic machine screwed up big time.
As I've said elsewhere, I'm actually in favour of the Democrats running a true leftist candidate. That would forever disabuse that wing of the party of the idea that such views could ever find favour with the majority of Americans.Progressive - yes, popular with the far left - yes, particularly electable and hence a smart choice - no
Sanders would not have won the election. He would have won a personal likeability contest with Trump.
There are an awful lot of people in the US right now who still need to check in with reality.
I've been saying that for months,...only explanation.Ha ha....fuji is mad :biggrin1:
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Its true, Sanders would have been the smart and progressive choice.
The democratic machine screwed up big time.
Sanders said he will run again in 2020.Progressive - yes, popular with the far left - yes, particularly electable and hence a smart choice - no
If she is listening to decent legal counsel and not to Cheryl Mills she will accept a pardon faster than you can say spit!Better hope he does pardon her. Lots of time and no DOJ interference this time around.
I'm sure he would like to, and if he does and when he looses the rioting by the spoiled brats will be even larger than it has been the past few days.Sanders said he will run again in 2020.
Pardon her for what? She's been exonerated already and isn't even accused of wrongdoing.Better hope he does pardon her. Lots of time and no DOJ interference this time around.
Still under investigation. And now that the DOJ won't be able to interfere they may be able to conduct a fair investigation.Pardon her for what? She's been exonerated already and isn't even accused of wrongdoing.
She has no more influence. The Clinton's are about the to lose their place in the DNC, Washington and Wall st. They don't have influence to sell anymore.
She's not under any investigation nor has she even been suspected or accused of wrongdoing.Still under investigation. And now that the DOJ won't be able to interfere they may be able to conduct a fair investigation.
She has no more influence. The Clinton's are about the to lose their place in the DNC, Washington and Wall st. They don't have influence to sell anymore.
Stop lying.
^ Well Cheryl Mills, I hope your pall Hilary doesn't keep listening to you because if she does she's going to have a number of years in a U.S. Federal Penitentiary to think about 'I should have asked Barrack for and accepted a Pardon.'
Please point to any allegation of wrongdoing by Clinton.^ Well Cheryl Mills, I hope your pall Hilary doesn't keep listening to you because if she does she's going to have a number of years in a U.S. Federal Penitentiary to think about 'I should have asked Barrack for and accepted a Pardon.'
