Once again you are supporting the continuation of a Palestinian government led by Islamic terrorists.
In the real world, getting rid of terrorists (or having them become purely political) is a required step for peace.
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In the real world, getting rid of terrorists (or having them become purely political) is a required step for peace.
Now you are calling Abbas an Islamic terrorist?Once again you are supporting the continuation of a Palestinian government led by Islamic terrorists.
In the real world, getting rid of terrorists (or having them become purely political) is a required step for peace.
What you are really doing is stating that you also don't support the two state solution.
Ever.
Abbas is a former terrorist so he has improved. He still praises terrorist attackers and pays condolence visits to their families though.Now you are calling Abbas an Islamic terrorist?....
But in the main I was referring to Hamas, the terrorist entity which you oppose being disarmed. Netanyahu clearly states that as Long as Hamas and other Islamic radicals hold power, there is no opportunity for peace, especially since Hamas refuse to even negotiate a peace deal.
So are most of Israel's PM's through history.Abbas is a former terrorist so he has improved. .
I really don't care what you think your reason is, and you can justify it based on whatever you like.
The fact is that you have come out and said you also do not support the two state solution, like Netanyahu.
You are by default left backing apartheid Israel.
Congrats.
You actually know you are lying. You know Netanyahu supports a two state solution. We have discussed it in detail as you replied to and discussed that point. You know. He requires the terrorists to be disarmed which you consider unacceptable, but given that condition he supports it. And you know he does.So are most of Israel's PM's through history.
I really don't care what you think your reason is, and you can justify it based on whatever you like.
The fact is that you have come out and said you also do not support the two state solution, like Netanyahu.
You are by default left backing apartheid Israel.
Congrats.
Yet you have decided to lie.
I think the truth is Bibbi supports a two state solution to which the Palestinians will never agree too, therefore he doesn't.You actually know you are lying. You know Netanyahu supports a two state solution. We have discussed it in detail as you replied to and discussed that point. You know. He requires the terrorists to be disarmed which you consider unacceptable, but given that condition he supports it. And you know he does.
Yet you have decided to lie.
For years he gave lip service to the two state solution while at the same time killing it through 'facts on the ground', as he called the settlements.I think the truth is Bibbi supports a two state solution to which the Palestinians will never agree too, therefore he doesn't.
But since the election and his declaration to never allow it there has been zero talk of the two state solution coming to pass.
He's never really supported it, just said he does in order to use peace talks as a stalling technique while he kept colonizing.
And now there is only the one state left.
Yep, Netanyahu killed peace because he made Hamas continue terrorism and insisted that Hamas refuses to even discuss peace.For years he gave lip service to the two state solution while at the same time killing it ...
And I know you refuse to discuss it but Netanyahu has repeatedly called for Abbas to restart negotiations but Abbas ignores it and Abbas' chief "negotiator" says he will never negotiate again.
Netanyahu didn't have to kill peace the Palestinian's did that for him. Having said that no one will ever confuse him with Rabin or Sharon for that matter. Even further next to him Begin was a flexible man of vision. What a putz he is.Yep, Netanyahu killed peace because he made Hamas continue terrorism and insisted that Hamas refuses to even discuss peace.
And I know you refuse to discuss it but Netanyahu has repeatedly called for Abbas to restart negotiations but Abbas ignores it and Abbas' chief "negotiator" says he will never negotiate again.
And then the excuses start.Yep, Netanyahu killed peace because .....
Whatever.
Netanyahu killed peace.
He campaigned on killing peace.
Now you're stuck with apartheid Israel.
It really sums up your ridiculous view on the conflict that you think Hamas continuing terror and refusing to even negotiate peace is an excuse. Moral people would call on Hamas to give up trying to kill Israeli civilians and to actually negotiate for peace. But don't worry; I have never included you in that group.And then the excuses start.....
Refusing to negotiate?It really sums up your ridiculous view on the conflict that you think Hamas continuing terror and refusing to even negotiate peace is an excuse. Moral people would call on Hamas to give up trying to kill Israeli civilians and to actually negotiate for peace. But don't worry; I have never included you in that group.
Why would they enter into negotiations with someone who promised to never let a Palestinian state happen?
They've already had 20 years of 'peace talks' through the Oslo Accord that was used as a stalling technique while Israel planted 500,000 squatters on the land they were supposed to get.
Its not refusing negotiations with someone who's already told you negotiations will be useless.
Israel has chosen and created the one state solution.
Apartheid Israel is their choice.
Yes, you posted direct statments from Hamas saying they will never negotiate a peace deal.Refusing to negotiate?
This from the guy who just complained about excuses?Why would they ....
Of course you never want to address that Hamas is a terrorist entity that still plans attacks on civilians, still praises attacks on civilians, and since their founding have pledged never to accept a peace deal.
No, I've posted statements saying they will negotiate should there ever be a willing partner in Israel.Yes, you posted direct statments from Hamas saying they will never negotiate a peace deal.
They, like Israel, should be tried for war crimes for targeting civilians.Of course you never want to address that Hamas is a terrorist entity that still plans attacks on civilians, still praises attacks on civilians, and since their founding have pledged never to accept a peace deal.
Take both to the ICC and charge them both, all parties there have made a mess of things.
And while you're at the ICC, don't forget to charge Israel for war crimes for the settlements and apartheid.
That's fair, right?
One of your best whoppers. Hamas was founded on the concept of rejecting peace. Meanwhile Israel has repeatedly made peace offers and even in this current term in office, Netanyahu has repeatedly called for Abbas to engage in direct peace talks. Of course your only defense is to lie about what Netanyahu actually said.No, I've posted statements saying they will negotiate should there ever be a willing partner in Israel.
And look at you once again trying to pretend Hamas aren't bad. There is no need for the ICC. Hamas openly admits to terror attacks including this summer's suicide bombing of a public bus and shooting up a restaurant. Hamas openly praises attacks on civilians. They have repeatedly confessed publicly. All that is left is to sentence them.
But no, you continue to say that Hamas should stay in power and that they should keep their terrorist weaponry.
Sure, and Netanyahu's party charter also claims all of Israel for themselves.One of your best whoppers. Hamas was founded on the concept of rejecting peace.
So by your logic Israel will also never, ever allow a Palestinian state.
Fair?
I said they've committed acts that should land them in the ICC docket along with Israel.And look at you once again trying to pretend Hamas aren't bad.
Your only complaint is that I think both sides should be held to the law while you think one side should get all the land and the other side are 'cockroaches'.
No, I think Israel should let Barghati free and he should run it all, he's the popular choice and well respected.But no, you continue to say that Hamas should stay in power and that they should keep their terrorist weaponry.
Who is going to invade Gaza and drag Hamas to the ICC? Last time the Hamas leaders holed up in the basement of Gaza hospital. Do you support a raid on the hospital to get them out?I said they've committed acts that should land them in the ICC docket along with Israel.
Your posts are ridiculous. Hamas is a thoroughly criminal organization that routinely engages in violent crime. It has no intention of ever submitting to any law ever.
If you ACTUALLY cared about the rule of law you would join Netanyahu in demanding Hamas be disarmed.
I am amazed at the lengths you will go to to try and justify the terrorism of Hamas. Hamas continues to proudly and repeatedly admit to terrorism yet you still try to portray them as interested in peace.Sure, ...
So well respected you can't be bothered spelling his name correctly?No, I think Israel should let Barghati free and he should run it all, he's the popular choice and well respected
And in what world do people release terrorists leaders convicted of murders and who is opposed to peace talks without assurances that they will accept (and implement) a lasting peace. The saddest thing about the Palestinian leadership is that a convicted terrorist murderer is a viable choice.
And yet....I am amazed at the lengths you will go to to try and justify the terrorism of Hamas. Hamas continues to proudly and repeatedly admit to terrorism yet you still try to portray them as interested in peace.
https://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=765374Israeli general says Hamas needed for Gaza stability
"Israel and Hamas have common interests, of peace and quiet for growth and prosperity, even in the present situation."
Your incredibly biased and racist view that they are 'cockroaches' is not born out with reality.
Attitudes like yours are the reason why Israel is now apartheid.
South Africa.And in what world do people release terrorists leaders convicted of murders and who is opposed to peace talks without assurances that they will accept (and implement) a lasting peace. The saddest thing about the Palestinian leadership is that a convicted terrorist murderer is a viable choice.
Mandela was accused of terrorism as well and in jail.
Seems that's the way apartheid nations try to stop peaceful protests.
And yet you continue to make excuses. Hamas is a terror group that proudly admits to their actions.And yet.......
A quote from a general saying that the Hamas terrorists are more interested in stability than all the other Gaza terrorists is hardly a glowing endorsement.
And your constant attempts to compare to Mandela are a joke. Barghouti's involvement in the Second Intifadah is well documented. Sadly he may be a better option that Abbas or Hamas but that is like saying hemlock is better than cyanide.
