Airshow Trauma

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It is the non-refugee author of the article crying about the
air show, not the refugees.
 
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But yeah. Sure is funny to contemplate that some people that barely escaped a war-torn hellscape and lost too many friends and family to bombs might be disturbed by the sound of fighter jets. Fucking hilarious, that.
 
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The disturbing part is the author is a PHD candidate at U of T. Clearly he is a product of the self-entitled, I am a victim, everything is offensive to me, I'm so well off and rich with no concept of what a real problem is in my life that I need to create fake problems in a pathetic attempt to make my life meaningful, mentality that seems to be taking over our universities.

When he sees the Snowbirds he sees a "glorification of the tools of war." When I see the Snowbirds I see a symbol of Canada's military and it's accomplished history and I think of my relatives who lie on the bottom of the English channel so me and this douche have a free country to live in.

Maybe the air force could accidentally drop a bomb on U of T to give this moron something approaching real to worry about.
 
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Fuck trigger warnings, fuck liberal

I personally found marathons, charity walks, bicycle rides for charity, a lot more disruptive as it usually means closing the highways. Every time there is a f-ing charity marathon (and there are many a year), I have to change my plans to avoid driving on super congested Toronto roads

So if these refugees and their leftiest friends don't like to watch airplanes flying low, I suggest they adjust their weekend plan accordingly.
 
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kstanb said:
Fuck trigger warnings, fuck liberal

I personally found marathons, charity walks, bicycle rides for charity, a lot more disruptive as it usually means closing the highways. Every time there is a f-ing charity marathon (and there are many a year), I have to change my plans to avoid driving on super congested Toronto roads

So if these refugees and their leftiest friends don't like to watch airplanes flying low, I suggest they adjust their weekend plan accordingly.
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Maybe they should come to the air show and feel what we feel.
 
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It is an opinion piece in a newspaper that decided long ago that it would advocate one viewpoint of the spectrum for the most part. There are other papers in the city where it would decidedly have never seen the light of day. Sadly, the quality of reporting in all the major papers of Toronto has suffered as fewer and fewer even bother to read them and revenue (Star closing its plant in Vaughan as one example) is hurting. I don't mind the airshow...but the best place to probably get the feel for the best airplanes is either the air museum in Hamilton or the museums of the Smithsonian in D.C. or the major one in Ohio where JFK's Airforce One is located. You can spend days there if you are a true fan!
 
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I love a good airshow

Too bad Toronto's isn't more like Hamilton's was (which is a real tragedy) where you could walk right up to the planes and speak to the Crews.
 
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Also, if some of the refugees we are taking care of are so traumatized as to feel threatened by an air show, then they really don't belong in a big, noisy city,
those should be relocated to somewhere more peaceful like some farming community in the middle of Saskatchewan or Manitoba
 
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As much as i love watchng these amazing machines being put on display, its kinda sad they were designed to kill people and destroy cities. Sometimes i wonder how many people were killed by that plane. ....
 
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james t kirk

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nottyboi said:
As much as i love watchng these amazing machines being put on display, its kinda sad they were designed to kill people and destroy cities. Sometimes i wonder how many people were killed by that plane. ....
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Fighters aren't designed to destroy cities.

The Lancaster, now that was designed to destroy cities and destroy cities it did. But Lancs destroying cities in Nazi held Europe was a response to the Nazis starting WW2 and bombing the hell out of Europe and Britain in particular. But the Lanc at the airshow was built in July 1945 (after WW2 had ended in Europe) and was a former search and rescue plane in the 50's and 60's in Canada. It's 1 of 2 still left flying in the world and I love seeing it fly.
 
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james t kirk said:
Fighters aren't designed to destroy cities.

The Lancaster, now that was designed to destroy cities and destroy cities it did. But Lancs destroying cities in Nazi held Europe was a response to the Nazis starting WW2 and bombing the hell out of Europe and Britain in particular. But the Lanc at the airshow was built in July 1945 (after WW2 had ended in Europe) and was a former search and rescue plane in the 50's and 60's in Canada. It's 1 of 2 still left flying in the world and I love seeing it fly.
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Maybe you should do some reading. An f15e can carry a payload probably larger then a lancaster....but definitely larger then a b17. I love seeing the lanc fly aa well it looks and sounds magnificent
 
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On this week's show, only three of the performers are combat planes: CF18, FA18F and 1945's veteran TBM Avenger.
The rest are all trainers, transports or acrobatic planes

So hardly a glorification of war tools
 
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I guess this is all that PhD's are good for? Talking about subjects they know absolutely nothing about.

And kstan is right. If you want a glorification of war machines, go to the US where they really know how to put on an air show complete with pyrotechnics and fighters firing their guns.
 
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Only thing I'll say about this is that I do have compassion for these refugees. The air show is an amazing tradition but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have empathy for these people and their experiences. They didn't ask for their past circumstance but at least those in Canada are safer. But that doesn't mean we should ridicule what is often seen as a trigger warning.

PTSD in any shape or form is not a joking matter nor something that should be taken lightly. These trigger warnings are no different than some of the ones veterans suffer from. Some of the comments on this thread are disheartening to say the least and no different than hearing racist bigots telling ethnic western citizens to "go back to their country". We all know how ignorant those people sound. An article about a different and real perspective shouldn't be something to scoff at.

Have some decency gentlemen.
 
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