Three Dallas police officers deceased along with seven wounded tonight during protest

[SkyRider]

Check out every school team and there's hardly any Asian kids.

That's because the Black kids won't let the Asian kids play basketball. Just kidding (I think)!

Asians do participate in sports (just look at the Olympics) but they are usually fitness sports not brute strength sports.

I think most Asian parents emphasize academics because it is easier to be a successful doctor than a Lebron James.

 

[SkyRider]

Interesting article on how the rest of the world sees the police response to protests in Baton Rouge.

Has the "rest of the world" seen how police and par-military forces treat protesters/demonstrators in Muslim countries? They shoot them with real bullets.

 

[Frankfooter]

Has the "rest of the world" seen how police and par-military forces treat protesters/demonstrators in Muslim countries? They shoot them with real bullets.

True, but its shocking for the rest of the world to see that the US is becoming more like them.

 

[SkyRider]

True, but its shocking for the rest of the world to see that the US is becoming more like them.

Who is "the rest of the world"? Are we talking about the castrated once were warriors Vikings in Denmark, Sweden, Norway, etc. They can't even protect their own women from being assaulted by "foreign youths"?

It can't be Iran or the PRC where the police and para-military use live bullets to disperse demonstrators.

 

[slowandeasy]

IThe whole pull up your boot strap mentality is just dumb. Hard work is only part of it and i am sure there are plenty of hard work i g blacks. That is about as useful as the coach who yells things like play harder.

Until you or someone else comes up with a solution that is actually works, the pull up your bootstraps mentality is the way to go. It is not like the coach that yells at his players.

All this navel gazing has some value, but we (and I mean parents) have created such an atmosphere of entitlement that it is ridiculous.

I agree that we might not know what certain ethnic groups face, but we do know human nature. Things are never as terrible as some people make them out to be, and they are
never as good as others make them out to be. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. My issue is that truth is being hi-jacked by self interest groups who dont' see how they
are playing into the hands of thugs, criminals, wannabe gangsters etc..

 

[Barca]

I've avoided this thread knowing I was going to find racist shit in it.

I should have listened to my instincts. To the racist assholes I say fuck you and your ignorance.

This is a good article for those of you not already predisposed to a racist mentality.

http://fusion.net/story/143613/a-gu...lack-crime-and-all-of-its-rhetorical-cousins/

Facts have a nasty habit of making stupid people look...well...stupid.

 

[nottyboi]

The guy is trained and has a rifle , rounds are likely to go right though a standard bullet proof vest designed to stop a pistol round.

You be the first through the door after the stun grenade or the tear gas.

You just like bitching about the police there's no logic to your posts.

He was in a garage, they have stun grenade and tear gas LAUNCHERS... geez you are about as incompetent as the Dallas police. Did you audition for the role of Chief Wiggum?

 

[nottyboi]

Probably because you never know if he would suddenly pop out from cover and shoot again.

A person can last days without food and water. I don't see the need for cops to sit there for 24 or 48 hours.

Tear and stun gas doesn't mean much at all sometimes because a person is still alert. They can still blindly shoot at people and get lucky hits on people if he knows cops are about to storm him.

Hmm so its not worth their time to avoid killing a black man and properly conducting the investigation. Is that your justification? Tear gas and stun grenades applied liberally until he surrenders, tosses out his gun and emerges hands in air....strips down at a safe distance and then lies down. BUT its SOOOO Much easier just to kill a black man. Why bother doing it properly. This is a situation police train for ALL THE TIME with SWAT teams. And when confronted with it, they threw away all their training and decided to execute the guy.

 

[nottyboi]

I would guess that waiting until a person is thirsty or hungry, you run the risk of the (angry/agitated already) person making poor decisions and could actually do more harm than good.
Considering this was downtown, the guy just shot up a protest and killed 5 of their own, it seemed rather unlikely this guy was going to give in to any demands.

Good call to take him out.

Unlikely maybe, but the JOB of the police is to try. They did not do their job and IMHO committed a crime.

 

[SkyRider]

What's obnoxious about BLM is that black crime victimizes mostly black families and is one of the reasons blacks are at a disadvantage. Black communities are in greater need of tough policing than any other. It's black kids getting addicted, black kids getting killed, black businesses getting robbed, black women getting raped, black homes getting burgled.

By black criminals.

Yet as a result of BLM police will be less effective in stopping the criminals who harm blacks.

It's self destruction.

Actually, the biggest enabler is not BLM, it is liberal lefties and their policies.

 

[slowandeasy]

What's obnoxious about BLM is that black crime victimizes mostly black families and is one of the reasons blacks are at a disadvantage. Black communities are in greater need of tough policing than any other. It's black kids getting addicted, black kids getting killed, black businesses getting robbed, black women getting raped, black homes getting burgled.

By black criminals.

Yet as a result of BLM police will be less effective in stopping the criminals who harm blacks.

It's self destruction.

Unfortunately, they don't seem to have figured this out.

 

[fuji]

He was in a garage, they have stun grenade and tear gas LAUNCHERS... geez you are about as incompetent as the Dallas police. Did you audition for the role of Chief Wiggum?

Stun grenades and tear gas don't work that well on a trained person who is expecting them.

 

[slowandeasy]

I've avoided this thread knowing I was going to find racist shit in it.

I should have listened to my instincts. To the racist assholes I say fuck you and your ignorance.

This is a good article for those of you not already predisposed to a racist mentality.

http://fusion.net/story/143613/a-gu...lack-crime-and-all-of-its-rhetorical-cousins/

Facts have a nasty habit of making stupid people look...well...stupid.

First, I have been saying that this is an issue with criminal behavior so I tend to agree with you.

However, the article you referred to has more than a few holes in it. Please stop the bullshit about "racist assholes", we are all racist assholes in some form or another.
Ethnics are just as racist against each other, and against whites so lets debunk that nonsense.

One of the things that I pulled out of the article was “Black people who kill black people go to jail. White people who are policemen who kill black people do not go to jail.”
This illustrates the racism and also the stupidity that you mentioned. To spell it out, the racism is against "white people". Don't black/hispanic/asian policemen kill black people?
The stupidity is how easily you accept that black people kill black people.

Below is a cut and paste of the 1st point.
This makes a world of sense, and is a valid point. The only thing is what are the hard numbers?
I believe that 13% of the US is considered "black". What is the murder rate among Blacks vs non blacks.

I did a quick look and found this. It is from the FBI, so I have to believe it is somewhat unbiased. I did a quick review, and if I am reading this
correctly, there were 2491 murders of black people Of that 189 was committed by whites, and 2245 by other Blacks, 20 by other, 37 by unknown.


https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

1. First thing to debunk? The term “black-on-black crime”:

Gary Younge over at the Nation writes:

“America is very segregated, and its criminality conforms to that fact. So the victims of most crimes are the same race as those who commit them. Eighty-four percent of white people who are killed every year are killed by white people. White people who buy illegal drugs are most likely to buy them from white people. Far from being extraordinary, the fact that black criminals are most likely to commit crimes against black people makes them just like everybody else. A more honest term than “black-on-black crime” would be, simply, ‘crime.’”

 

[slowandeasy]

He was in a garage, they have stun grenade and tear gas LAUNCHERS... geez you are about as incompetent as the Dallas police. Did you audition for the role of Chief Wiggum?

Yep, lets hug a thug... The fact that there is any debate on how the police handled shows how far some people will go. I guess the police protocol is now:
1. Police should wait until the person pulls out a gun;
2. Inspect the gun to make sure it is real.
3. They should then make sure that the gun is loaded
4. Check to see if these are live bullets, not blanks.
5. Ask the person if the safety is off, because we all know if the safety is on, the gun cannot fire.
6. Wait until they are shots are fired
7. If they are still alive, then they should make sure they try to take the person down without hurting him.

I guess that sums it up..

 

[slowandeasy]

Stun grenades and tear gas don't work that well on a trained person who is expecting them.

Why are you even arguing the point? As long as police is involved with a black person, it is racism (according to a segment of our population).

 

[silk123]

I've avoided this thread knowing I was going to find racist shit in it.

I should have listened to my instincts. To the racist assholes I say fuck you and your ignorance.

This is a good article for those of you not already predisposed to a racist mentality.

http://fusion.net/story/143613/a-gu...lack-crime-and-all-of-its-rhetorical-cousins/

Facts have a nasty habit of making stupid people look...well...stupid.

Barca it is frustrating reading these racist post in this thread, racist are also entitled to a voice. Fueled by SkyRider this is a very racist thread, I guess racist need a forum to vent just like the majority of people who would rather see an end to institutionalized racism that targets Blacks.

Telling people on this thread to fuck off will only spew more global hate.

 

[canada-man]

Four off-duty Minneapolis police officers working the Minnesota Lynx game at Target Center Saturday night walked off the job after the players held a news conference denouncing racial profiling, then wore Black Lives Matter pregame warm-up jerseys.

Lt. Bob Kroll, president of the Minneapolis Police Federation, the union that represents rank-and-file officers, praised them for quitting. “I commend them for it,” he said.

Kroll said the four officers also removed themselves from a list of officers working future games. He did not know who the officers were. “Others said they heard about it and they were not going to work Lynx games,” he said.

Asked if other officers will fill in for those who quit, Kroll said, “If (the players) are going to keep their stance, all officers may refuse to work there.”

The black shirts worn by the three-time W read, “Change starts with us, justice and accountability” and the names of Philando Castille and Alton Sterling on the back along with “Black Lives Matter.”

A St. Anthony police officer killed Castile in Falcon Heights and Sterling in Baton Rouge, setting off protests here and nationwide.

http://www.weaselzippers.us/282924-...out-over-player-comments-blm-warm-up-jerseys/

 

[Frankfooter]

First, I have been saying that this is an issue with criminal behavior so I tend to agree with you.

However, the article you referred to has more than a few holes in it. Please stop the bullshit about "racist assholes", we are all racist assholes in some form or another.
Ethnics are just as racist against each other, and against whites so lets debunk that nonsense.

One of the things that I pulled out of the article was “Black people who kill black people go to jail. White people who are policemen who kill black people do not go to jail.”
This illustrates the racism and also the stupidity that you mentioned. To spell it out, the racism is against "white people". Don't black/hispanic/asian policemen kill black people?
The stupidity is how easily you accept that black people kill black people.

Below is a cut and paste of the 1st point.
This makes a world of sense, and is a valid point. The only thing is what are the hard numbers?
I believe that 13% of the US is considered "black". What is the murder rate among Blacks vs non blacks.

I did a quick look and found this. It is from the FBI, so I have to believe it is somewhat unbiased. I did a quick review, and if I am reading this
correctly, there were 2491 murders of black people Of that 189 was committed by whites, and 2245 by other Blacks, 20 by other, 37 by unknown.


https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

1. First thing to debunk? The term “black-on-black crime”:

Gary Younge over at the Nation writes:

“America is very segregated, and its criminality conforms to that fact. So the victims of most crimes are the same race as those who commit them. Eighty-four percent of white people who are killed every year are killed by white people. White people who buy illegal drugs are most likely to buy them from white people. Far from being extraordinary, the fact that black criminals are most likely to commit crimes against black people makes them just like everybody else. A more honest term than “black-on-black crime” would be, simply, ‘crime.’”

You missed the point, or just dismissed the point.
Segregation is still a major issue in the US and accounts for why most crimes are committed by folks who are the same colour as their victims.
Because they live in the same community.

Check this map:
http://demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/index.html

 

[GPIDEAL]

He was in a garage, they have stun grenade and tear gas LAUNCHERS... geez you are about as incompetent as the Dallas police. Did you audition for the role of Chief Wiggum?

You mean a parking garage? What if there were no glass windows to permit entry of stun grenades or tear gas canisters?

When you're surrounded by a SWAT team after killing cops with an assault rifle, and you don't surrender but display a "come and get me pig" attitude, you're seeking a death wish. It seems like he was from his past behaviour.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Yep, lets hug a thug... The fact that there is any debate on how the police handled shows how far some people will go. I guess the police protocol is now:
1. Police should wait until the person pulls out a gun;
2. Inspect the gun to make sure it is real.
3. They should then make sure that the gun is loaded
4. Check to see if these are live bullets, not blanks.
5. Ask the person if the safety is off, because we all know if the safety is on, the gun cannot fire.
6. Wait until they are shots are fired
7. If they are still alive, then they should make sure they try to take the person down without hurting him.

I guess that sums it up..

Exactly.

No pussyfooting around.