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Israeli occupation to blame for fatal Palestinian attack on cafe - Tel Aviv mayor

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Interesting, now the mayor of Tel Aviv is an anti-Semite. What has the world come to?
Dan is getting senile and confused, doesn't realize I wasn't talking about the mayor, on the good side Dan stopped posting Hitler speeches.
 

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You call that defense? I just say I don't think it actually happened. Clearly you are not of sound mind if you think I am defending the burning of women. Take your meds, they are good for you. The people that have called me anti-semites are the "Israel can do not wrong" crowd, of which you are one. Defending the killing of children. I am sure you are proud and cheer when Israel slaughters more children. When people resort to name calling you know they are all out of ideas and simply cannot have a rational discussion. Kinda like a 2 year old having a temper tantrum.
You don't think it really happened? Isis has burned people alive, buried them alive, BBQed them over flames, had their head blown of with a necklace made out of explosives, drowned them in cages, sold children and women as sex slaves at the market, thrown Gays of the buildings and many other disgusting ways too many to mention. But for some reason Nottyboi thinks it really didn't happen. (and Israel is more important) You mention children: How about the children that are being sold as sex slaves by Isis and killed because they refuse? You don't give a shit about the human tragedy that is happening over there and the ramification for refugees, because Jews are not involved otherwise you would be barking like a rabid dog.

The same way you didn't give a shit of the terrorist attack that happened in Belgium.(thread) Eight pages worth of people chiming in, horrified , condemning and discussing it, but where was nottiboi the great humanitarian and justice seeker? Bashing Israel in the politics section..
For some reason what happens in Israel is much more important for you than the rest of the world and it needs to be criticized almost on a daily basis.
I'm sure you're proud of these great Palestinian warriors that opened fire in a restaurant where unarmed civilians were having a meal.

There is no rational discussion with racists and antisemites like you, When you spend year after year here focusing on Israel over and above any other country, clearly there is a problem with obsession and racism. The people that you call "Israel can do no wrong crowd" are people that rightly are challenging your racism and are to be commended. You.. should be ashamed
 

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It has nothing to do about Jews. It's Israel's foreign policy that's targeting a specific group of people.

Btw you DO know that Israel's demographic does not consist of 100% Jewish. Anybody who questions israel's foreign policy you automatically jump into conclusions that they are anti Semitic and hates Jews. Only mindless acolyte would do that
For some posters it has nothing to with religion but for others it does.
Yes , Israel is targeting a specific group of people that want to wipe them out, they're called terrorists.
I'm looking up your posts, is there a reason you also focus mainly on Israel on the political forum? Are there no other countries that deserve criticism?
 

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As if that is going to happen if Israel is a NATO member. :der: There will also be large NATO bases with munitions stored in case of emergency. The IDF will remain effective, just on a shorter rope and its ability to conduct offensive and preemptive attacks will fall under NATO command.
There is a long history of international organizations failing to live up to their commitments to defend Israel. You may recall the UN collaborated with Hamas in Gaza and more significantly cooperated with Nasser when he thought he could invade and destroy Israel.

A lot of NATO countries have antisemitic elements in their politics. Turkey foremost but also a lot of the Eastern European nations joining NATO and really many of the core EU nations have often taken anti Israeli positions. Their politics can also shift over decades while Israel needs permanent security guarantees, not just guarantees for the next ten or fifty years. Israel cannot rely on NATO.

Israel is capable of defending itself already so your idea of eliminating IDF and destroying Israel over a 50 year period isn't going to happen.

A better plan would be to transfer the remnants of Palestine to some UN governed occupation complete with occupation soldiers from NATO countries. IDF would remain to defend Israel in the event they once again shirked their duty but for so long as they were there hopefully there would be less violence.

Gaza once pacified might then join Egypt and similarly a terrorist free West Bank could eventually go to Jordan. Or the Palestinians might create a state. Or they might remain a shithole. It would really not be Israel's concern.

Here's a tenet we should apply:

Any solution should be reversible if it doesn't work. Disbanding IDF and flooding Israel with five million Palestinians isn't reversible so it's a bad option. If the Palestinians go on pogroms it will ignite another bloody civil war.

Here's another tenet:

The solution should be the most politically stable in which each resulting state has the least internal conflict. Flooding Israel with Palestinians also fails that criteria.

The Palestinians are to blame for this situation due to their refusal to accept the original partition. They don't get too go back and reverse their 1948 defeat by being being terrorists until somebody tries to appease them. They aren't going to get to refight the war. It's over. They lost.
 

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And judging by your claim of 2000 civilians, it is quite clear that you consider Palestinian armed combatants to be civilians but you have stated that Israeli civilians are valid targets.


And as long as Hamas chooses to attack civilians for a racist, genocidal goal they should be considered cockroaches.
See, there you go justifying the killing of what the UN has labelled civilians by trying to call them 'terrorists' or 'cockroaches'.
Shame on you, that type of language is disgusting.

You just justified bombing schools and hospitals by calling Palestinian civilians 'cockroaches'.
 

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For some posters it has nothing to with religion but for others it does.
Yes , Israel is targeting a specific group of people that want to wipe them out, they're called terrorists.
I'm looking up your posts, is there a reason you also focus mainly on Israel on the political forum? Are there no other countries that deserve criticism?
Every country has a certain degree of criticism, acknowledging the problem is the foundation to a solution .which is the reason why we strive to make things better and doing what is necessary to improve lives. I don't target a specific country in this forum, ever.

The underlying problem is you and your posse often demonizes anyone who has an open opinion about Israel. Closed minded thinking are ignorance of men who are afraid to recognize the truth
 

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There is a long history of international organizations failing to live up to their commitments to defend Israel. You may recall the UN collaborated with Hamas in Gaza and more significantly cooperated with Nasser when he thought he could invade and destroy Israel.

A lot of NATO countries have antisemitic elements in their politics. Turkey foremost but also a lot of the Eastern European nations joining NATO and really many of the core EU nations have often taken anti Israeli positions. Their politics can also shift over decades while Israel needs permanent security guarantees, not just guarantees for the next ten or fifty years. Israel cannot rely on NATO.

Israel is capable of defending itself already so your idea of eliminating IDF and destroying Israel over a 50 year period isn't going to happen.

A better plan would be to transfer the remnants of Palestine to some UN governed occupation complete with occupation soldiers from NATO countries. IDF would remain to defend Israel in the event they once again shirked their duty but for so long as they were there hopefully there would be less violence.

Gaza once pacified might then join Egypt and similarly a terrorist free West Bank could eventually go to Jordan. Or the Palestinians might create a state. Or they might remain a shithole. It would really not be Israel's concern.

Here's a tenet we should apply:

Any solution should be reversible if it doesn't work. Disbanding IDF and flooding Israel with five million Palestinians isn't reversible so it's a bad option. If the Palestinians go on pogroms it will ignite another bloody civil war.

Here's another tenet:

The solution should be the most politically stable in which each resulting state has the least internal conflict. Flooding Israel with Palestinians also fails that criteria.

The Palestinians are to blame for this situation due to their refusal to accept the original partition. They don't get too go back and reverse their 1948 defeat by being being terrorists until somebody tries to appease them. They aren't going to get to refight the war. It's over. They lost.
Blame blame blame. You think racism is so unique to the Jews or Palis....look at the reaction to refugees in Europe or Mexicans in the USA. All demonstrations of sheer racism. You are as racist as any jew hating Hamas radical. That you fail to see this is really quite comical.
 

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Blame blame blame. You think racism is so unique to the Jews or Palis....look at the reaction to refugees in Europe or Mexicans in the USA. All demonstrations of sheer racism. You are as racist as any jew hating Hamas radical. That you fail to see this is really quite comical.
I absolutely blame the Palestinians. They ARE to blame.

They did reject partition. They did start a racist civil war to ethnically cleanse the Jews. They did start a terror campaign to continue that effort after they lost the civil war. They did repeatedly attack Israel from Lebanon, dragging Lebanon into the conflict. They did repeatedly refuse peace deals. They do continue to refuse peace and prefer violent, hostile solutions.

It's disturbing that you think the answer to all that Palestinian violence is to throw open the gates so they can murder, pillage, and ethnically cleanse Jews.
 

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Fact is, few people buy Israel excuses for killing thousands of civilians again, again and again. "sorry we killed your children by accident for the 100th time" is just not acceptable.
Considering on many occasions you said Israeli civilians intentionally killed were acceptable because that's what happens in a war why do you have a polar opposite view when it comes to Palestinians?
 

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For some posters it has nothing to with religion but for others it does.
Yes , Israel is targeting a specific group of people that want to wipe them out, they're called terrorists.
I'm looking up your posts, is there a reason you also focus mainly on Israel on the political forum? Are there no other countries that deserve criticism?
Such as the Arab coalition directly responsible for 2000 dead children in Yemen last year?
 

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You just justified bombing schools and hospitals by calling Palestinian civilians 'cockroaches'.
Just another example where you prove yourself to be a completely dishonest piece of shit. And instead of admitting your outright lie you are probably going to complain to the mods that insulted you. Your lie is hateful and blatantly untrue so describing you as a dishonest piece of shit is based soundly in fact.

Hamas terrorists are cockroaches but you'd rather defend them.
 

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Yes you do. You have been caught lying in order to demonize Israel. Don't play coy, you are one of this forums leading haters.
Nope, none.

you're just mad because you hate anybody that disagree with Israels foreign policy, you called everybody anti Semitic as soon they do not agree with Israel. You're just another pay to type hasbara troll
 

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Nope, none.

you're just mad because you hate anybody that disagree with Israels foreign policy, you called everybody anti Semitic as soon they do not agree with Israel. You're just another pay to type hasbara troll
Sorry but you have a history here and anybody who used phrases like "hasbara" really is identifying themselves as a bigoted person. But hey we can just look at your posting history to see what you are:

We need Hitler, bring him back from the dead.
Powerful words. But +1
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...ate-the-Jews&p=4267218&viewfull=1#post4267218

Go away you neo-nazi racist.
 

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I absolutely blame the Palestinians. They ARE to blame.

They did reject partition. They did start a racist civil war to ethnically cleanse the Jews. They did start a terror campaign to continue that effort after they lost the civil war. They did repeatedly attack Israel from Lebanon, dragging Lebanon into the conflict. They did repeatedly refuse peace deals. They do continue to refuse peace and prefer violent, hostile solutions.

It's disturbing that you think the answer to all that Palestinian violence is to throw open the gates so they can murder, pillage, and ethnically cleanse Jews.

Your comments do.not reflect just hatred. But paranoia and cowardice as well.
 

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Sorry but you have a history here and anybody who used phrases like "hasbara" really is identifying themselves as a bigoted person. But hey we can just look at your posting history to see what you are:



https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...ate-the-Jews&p=4267218&viewfull=1#post4267218

Go away you neo-nazi racist.
Bringing back a troll comment from 10 years ago proves that you don't have any significant substance to continue what is being discussed. Furthermore, it was immediately corrected as a troll comment on my behave.

But of course you would save any information whether the user meant it or not, to use against their character in the future. That's the act of a low life.
 

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It was actually four years ago, and it's you praising Hitler and agreeing he should be brought back to kill Jews.

You're done. Jew hating neo nazi racists have zero credibility.
 

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Your comments do.not reflect just hatred. But paranoia and cowardice as well.
Nope. My comments reflect the hard reality you are trying to deny. Namely that since the beginning the Palestinians have been the aggressors, driven by religious and racial bigotry, determined to ethnically cleanse Jews and refusing any opportunity for a peaceful resolution.

In such a world any kind of attempt at a one state solution, or effort to remove Israel's ability try protect itself, would result in renewed genocidal arab aggression against Jews in Israel and a replay of the 1947 civil war.
 
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