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2015/16 Toronto Raptors Season Thread !!

How Will new Faces help the Raptors ?

  • Toronto Raptors with 43-39 Wins will finish somewhere between 6 and 8th

    Votes: 8 19.5%
  • Raptors Will Get 44-55 Wins .. Division Title and A run in playoffs wihich is more then one series

    Votes: 28 68.3%
  • Toronto Raptors take step backwards and with less then 40 wins miss playoffs

    Votes: 2 4.9%
  • This team blows up and becomes Lottery team again

    Votes: 3 7.3%

  • Total voters
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wonkyknee

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Talent level in Cleveland is approx 40% higher than Toronto. How do you compete with that? Team salary in Cleveland 107million, Toronto 70million. If MLSE decides to spend money maybe we compete for a championship. Re-sign Demar and Byombo first. It sounds like Demar is returning.....but we shall see...
 

Dawgger

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Talent level in Cleveland is approx 40% higher than Toronto. How do you compete with that? Team salary in Cleveland 107million, Toronto 70million. If MLSE decides to spend money maybe we compete for a championship. Re-sign Demar and Byombo first. It sounds like Demar is returning.....but we shall see...
both Biyombo and DeRozan sound like they prefer to play for the Raps. Both guys are saying the right things, lets see if they mean it! Still have to have money for a decent PF and unless there is a player under contract that Raps can trade for, signing a UFA will be expensive. Rogers and Bell must have made some decent revenue from Raps games, maybe they will loosen the purse strings!?!
 

thewalker

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both Biyombo and DeRozan sound like they prefer to play for the Raps. Both guys are saying the right things, lets see if they mean it! Still have to have money for a decent PF and unless there is a player under contract that Raps can trade for, signing a UFA will be expensive. Rogers and Bell must have made some decent revenue from Raps games, maybe they will loosen the purse strings!?!
I would love to see Biyombo back, but there are 2 problems:

1) Other teams are gonna throw a whole bunch of money at him that Masai might not match.

2) Biyombo will always be a bench player if Valanciunas is healthy. What if another team can guarantee he will start?
 

frankcastle

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4th quarter of game six of thunder vs warriors was a lot of fun. Both teams would have killed the r aptors and will like give lebron a run for his money.

Heard bismack might get 17 million a year. If that is the case he is too expensive to be a back up center in Toronto.
 

raptorizedguy

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4th quarter of game six of thunder vs warriors was a lot of fun. Both teams would have killed the r aptors and will like give lebron a run for his money.

Heard bismack might get 17 million a year. If that is the case he is too expensive to be a back up center in Toronto.
Wow what a game 7 .... Hitting 3's like the Warrior's means no lead is safe and also a game can get away from you very fast
igning a 17 million contract means Biyombo will have a lot of money and a lot of expectations ... Him signing 17 means there will be a lot of GM's who will have more money to spend
 

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To free up salary space, get rid of T-Ross. What is he getting ? 10 mill to come off the bench ?
 

Insidious Von

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T-Ross is a better athlete than Norman Powell, but NP blows him away with his court sense and tenacity. I would love it if Biz stayed but I'm not betting on it.

In other news:

Never worry, have no fear
Kevin Durant will soon be here,

 

K Douglas

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I would love to see Biyombo back, but there are 2 problems:

1) Other teams are gonna throw a whole bunch of money at him that Masai might not match.

2) Biyombo will always be a bench player if Valanciunas is healthy. What if another team can guarantee he will start?
As much as I love the Biz yes we shouldn't overpay for a backup C. JV needs to improve his D though. I wonder if there's another cheaper backup C on the market that is more on the defensive side?
 

ogibowt

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As much as I love the Biz yes we shouldn't overpay for a backup C. JV needs to improve his D though. I wonder if there's another cheaper backup C on the market that is more on the defensive side?
maybe Nerlens Noel of the 76 ers....or see what Bebe can do.. both are young, controllable and come cheap
 

raptorizedguy

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To free up salary space, get rid of T-Ross. What is he getting ? 10 mill to come off the bench ?
For what little Ross does I am pretty sure the 9th pick ( which the Raptors have ) can do it and do it cheaper ....

Can everyone give up trying to duplicate the Warriors ... The Warriors can do what they do cause the have Curry and klay ... Oh by the way they have them both on great contracts ... It isn't the Warriors style that wins it is Curry and Klay ... It is like ... The Triangle offense didn't win championships it was Kobe , Shaq and Jordon who won the Championship

Funny, I know how it was to be a Thunder fan cause I experienced it in these playoffs ie When ever the Raps would got close the Cavs would hit a 3 and pretty soon that one digit deficit soon became a double digit lead .. Last game Rap players were throwing bricks while Cavs hit 17 3's
 

thewalker

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maybe Nerlens Noel of the 76 ers....or see what Bebe can do.. both are young, controllable and come cheap
I like your thinking. 76ers will take Ben Simmons and they have a glut of big men, they can't possibly play them all. Noel, Embid, Okafor, Simmons.
 

frankcastle

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This may seem nuts but as much as I like JV what about trading him. Signing Biyombo. Trading Ross. Drafting the best player they can at 9th. Sign the best free agent they can. Address their perimeter shooting. This solves the problem of having two starting centers. And the trades if it includes pics should keep the Raptors relevant for the next few years.

Bruno C and Noguerra may have to be cut. I'm not sure if they will develop. But who knows maybe some more D league will help them.
 

smuddan

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This may seem nuts but as much as I like JV what about trading him. Signing Biyombo. Trading Ross. Drafting the best player they can at 9th. Sign the best free agent they can. Address their perimeter shooting. This solves the problem of having two starting centers.
You're not the only nut as I was just thinking about that possibility. Lol

JV was playing magnificently just before he was injured but I don't think he could have made the difference of beating the Cavs. Biyombo was marvelous in his own ways.

We'll lose some offense with Biyombo replacing JV but he makes it up with better defensive presence and rebounding. Ideally you'd want both but unless you can turn JV into a power forward, I really don't think you can tie up 30+ mils for two centers. I'd hate to lose JV but if we lose Biyombo we'll lose a very valuable asset. It'll be a subtraction of existing talent.

If we sign Biyombo, we can turn JV into a trading asset to fill the holes in power forward and outside shooting. Masai has said he'll need to find some creativities to keep both DD and Biyombo and maybe this is an alternative he'll have to explore.
 

frankcastle

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You're not the only nut as I was just thinking about that possibility. Lol

JV was playing magnificently just before he was injured but I don't think he could have made the difference of beating the Cavs. Biyombo was marvelous in his own ways.

We'll lose some offense with Biyombo replacing JV but he makes it up with better defensive presence and rebounding. Ideally you'd want both but unless you can turn JV into a power forward, I really don't think you can tie up 30+ mils for two centers. I'd hate to lose JV but if we lose Biyombo we'll lose a very valuable asset. It'll be a subtraction of existing talent.

If we sign Biyombo, we can turn JV into a trading asset to fill the holes in power forward and outside shooting. Masai has said he'll need to find some creativities to keep both DD and Biyombo and maybe this is an alternative he'll have to explore.
JV has good offense and average defence
BB has average to below average offence but excellent defence..... that D means extra shots for the team. Which is why I think improving the perimeter shooting is also key.

BB is not much of a post up player but at least he has a decent jump shot from the foul line and can clean up with dunks.
 

Dawgger

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The contract JV signed is really team favorable and will be even more so as the cap grows. I would take JV and his contract over Biyombo at 15 plus. Biyombo when he is on his game is awesome but I find him inconsistent as well as offensively challenged. If either of them had a decent outside shot they would be an awesome pair at the 4 and 5. Raps are so deep in youngsters and picks that they should be able to come up with something via the trade route. DeCarlo maybe about ready to play in the NBA which would give them a glut at the guard positions. Bebe and Bruno look like they are not going to make it here which is too bad as the Raps need bigs and they are or were the young bigs.
Ross is so inconsistent that I really hope he is traded and gets the Raps something more than a second rounder. Some team has to want him as there appears to be loads of undeveloped potential, it just isn't showing up here on a regular basis.
This should be an interesting off season, who will they resign, trade, release, sign draft???? The off season may almost be as interesting as the season was.
 

frankcastle

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The contract JV signed is really team favorable and will be even more so as the cap grows. I would take JV and his contract over Biyombo at 15 plus. Biyombo when he is on his game is awesome but I find him inconsistent as well as offensively challenged. If either of them had a decent outside shot they would be an awesome pair at the 4 and 5. Raps are so deep in youngsters and picks that they should be able to come up with something via the trade route. DeCarlo maybe about ready to play in the NBA which would give them a glut at the guard positions. Bebe and Bruno look like they are not going to make it here which is too bad as the Raps need bigs and they are or were the young bigs.
Ross is so inconsistent that I really hope he is traded and gets the Raps something more than a second rounder. Some team has to want him as there appears to be loads of undeveloped potential, it just isn't showing up here on a regular basis.
This should be an interesting off season, who will they resign, trade, release, sign draft???? The off season may almost be as interesting as the season was.
Good point if there is a big price difference between JV and BB that is a consideration.
 

ogibowt

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This may seem nuts but as much as I like JV what about trading him. Signing Biyombo. Trading Ross. Drafting the best player they can at 9th. Sign the best free agent they can. Address their perimeter shooting. This solves the problem of having two starting centers. And the trades if it includes pics should keep the Raptors relevant for the next few years.

Bruno C and Noguerra may have to be cut. I'm not sure if they will develop. But who knows maybe some more D league will help them.
the Raptors have committed themselves to JV, he is not going anywhere, imo...BB will command too much $, cant see him staying.....raptors 1st priority is a power forward.. back up centres can be easily found
 

ogibowt

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The contract JV signed is really team favorable and will be even more so as the cap grows. I would take JV and his contract over Biyombo at 15 plus. Biyombo when he is on his game is awesome but I find him inconsistent as well as offensively challenged. If either of them had a decent outside shot they would be an awesome pair at the 4 and 5. Raps are so deep in youngsters and picks that they should be able to come up with something via the trade route. DeCarlo maybe about ready to play in the NBA which would give them a glut at the guard positions. Bebe and Bruno look like they are not going to make it here which is too bad as the Raps need bigs and they are or were the young bigs.
Ross is so inconsistent that I really hope he is traded and gets the Raps something more than a second rounder. Some team has to want him as there appears to be loads of undeveloped potential, it just isn't showing up here on a regular basis.
This should be an interesting off season, who will they resign, trade, release, sign draft???? The off season may almost be as interesting as the season was.
I don't think Bruno is a big...he is a small forward....when he first got here ,they had him practicing 3 point shooting until he was blue in the face...centres don't do that....I actually think Bebe is ready..
 

mrcheeks

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.I actually think Bebe is ready..
Bebe was tricked to jump a lot on defense in the Miami series. He still needs more training.
 
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