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black booty lover

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The confusion is that you are only concentrating on his BA. JB hit above .260 only twice in his career but so what. That is only one measure of hitting. RM has a career OPS of .750, which is a more complete picture of offence. he takes walks and has some pop for a catcher.

He has also gone to the playoffs in 9 of his 10 years with 4 different teams. That may be luck but He is a proven winner. He is in an epic bad slump (1 extra base hit in the first 46 games!) but as a proven winner with good defence, we don't have any better options. Plus we have him for $70 mil over the next 4 years so get used to it.

Guys will then say trade him but we will be on the hook for prob half his salary which means it limits the quality of his replacement.
Right, but the comments I'm referring to is that people keep talking about how Russell Martin is slumping at the plate. You can call this a bit of a slum if you want, but don't expect him to bat like Tulo. He's not that far off his career average. He's a career average 250 hitter. You take out his first 3 years and it's probably closer to 230. His power numbers are all over the map. He's had years where he's hit 5 and 7 home runs, and last year hit the most in his career with 23, so who knows what that means. My point is that don't expect much more than a 230 average. Yeah so he's hitting 170 right now, a bit under what you'll see but September, but this is what you should expect.
 

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Batting average is a confusing stat. It misleads because it only represents a very small piece of the puzzle. Productivity is much more interesting.

Assuming about 600 at bats for a season... the .300 hitter gets 180 hits; the .240 hitter gets 144 hits.

The difference is 36 hits... over 162 games, that is one hit every 4.5 games.

Suppose you had a monkey who consistently hits .199... but every hit is a home run. That works out to about 120 home runs a year!!!

And, oh what a beautiful day today!

Perry
 

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Joey Siddell brought up a good point yesterday, most of the blame rests on Storen and not so much the rest of bullpen.
If Storen was doing his job properly this team would be a few games over .500 and at least in contention for a WC spot.
You can't expect guys like Floyd and Chavez to do Storen's job, they are simply not good enough.

Having said that if Shapiro had gotten 2 quality relievers instead of these 2 guys, our bullpen depth might have been able to cover for Storen's shitty start. So some of this is Shapiro's fault as well
 

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Suppose you had a monkey who consistently hits .199... but every hit is a home run. That works out to about 120 home runs a year!!!
Rob Deer?:D
 

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Let's not forget that the Jays had 3 relievers go down with injury in spring training-Aaron Loup, Bo Schultz and Franklin Morales. Loup and Schultz are now rehabbing for the Bisons and Morales is a few weeks away from beginning his rehab stint.

As for Drew Storen being available for trade-In other news, I have some 8-tracks tapes that I would like to sell.
 

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Let's not forget that the Jays had 3 relievers go down with injury in spring training-Aaron Loup, Bo Schultz and Franklin Morales. Loup and Schultz are now rehabbing for the Bisons and Morales is a few weeks away from beginning his rehab stint.

As for Drew Storen being available for trade-In other news, I have some 8-tracks tapes that I would like to sell.
Storen is being shopped around, the Jays have made that clear. Plus he's a UFA after this season so the Jays might as well get something for him if he doesn't fit into their long term plans.
 

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Storen is adjusting to American League hitters, he has a five week window to figure it out.
Yeah, I think Storen put that out as an excuse. The problem is that, if anything, he's been worse this season against NL teams.
Overall he's 0-2 7.80 ERA
Against NL teams he's 0-1 9.00 ERA. I'll admit that it's a small sample size (3 appearances, 2 IP).
 

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and Chavez to do Storen's job, they are simply not good enough.

Having said that if Shapiro had gotten 2 quality relievers instead of these 2 guys, our bullpen depth might have been able to cover for Storen's shitty start. So some of this is Shapiro's fault as well
So once again who are these multiple "quality" relievers he could have gone out and gotten? Storen was one of the top bullpen arms available.
 

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Let's not forget the horrible spring that Cecil had in 2015 before he turned on a switch and did not give up a run in his last 36 outings including the playoffs.
Also Miguel Castro was the young closer and Osuna was a curiosity last year coming off arm surgery before he became the closer by default.
Steve Delabar was an Allstar a few seasons ago. Middle relief is a crap shoot to say the least.
 

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So once again who are these multiple "quality" relievers he could have gone out and gotten?
Oh I dunno, anyone with an ERA under 4.00 maybe???
 

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Oh I dunno, anyone with an ERA under 4.00 maybe???
middle relievers are always a crap shoot and roll of the dice. They can be an all-star one year and terrible the next. Look at Steve Delabar. There are plenty of examples like that.
 

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Forget the bullpen. They are scoring 1.5 run less a game this year. When 2/3 of the lineup Is struggling badly below career numbers, it's hard not to blame the hitting coaches.
 
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Another stinker tonight, falling further behind the Red Sox. Can't see the Sox slowing down anytime soon.
 

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Forget the bullpen. They are scoring 1.5 run less a game this year. When 2/3 of the lineup Is struggling badly below career numbers, it's hard not to blame the hitting coaches.
Actually it's quite easy not to blame the coaches. How about we blame the professional baseball players?
 
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