Uber is now officially legal in Toronto

GameBoy27

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I take Uber every time if I'm going somewhere and will be having a couple drinks. I'll also use Uber Assist if I need to get my elderly parents somewhere and I'm unable to drive them. The last few times they took a regular taxi, the drivers took them the "long" way and helped themselves to a huge tip by not giving them any change back. With Uber I can see the route they're taking in real time and there's no cash transaction for them to worry about. It's also less expensive.

This is great news!

Toronto rolls out welcome mat for Uber with new rules.

New rules approved by city council late Tuesday include allowing cabs to use “surge pricing” and raising the minimum fare for private transportation companies.

After months of protests and turmoil, Torontonians have a legal, regulated UberX travel option for getting around the city.

New rules approved by city council in a marathon Tuesday meeting will further revolutionize Toronto travel by allowing taxis to start using Uber-style “surge” peak-time pricing on fares booked via a Smartphone app.

Some councillors are warning, however, that the road to legalizing ride-hailing services, which use smartphone apps to connect passengers to non-professional drivers using their own vehicles, has made roadkill out of cabbies’ livelihoods and passenger safety.

Mayor John Tory convinced council to vote 27-15 in favour of the new rules.

He got there by winning the support of formerly anti-Uber councillors, including Jim Karygiannis and Giorgio Mammoliti, with a package that rolls back 2014 taxi reforms long and loudly opposed by taxi plate owners.

“The status quo is not satisfactory,” Tory told council Monday afternoon as he stood to move the package of reworked recommendations, causing a stir among left-leaning councillors who thought they had his support for a less Uber-friendly package.

“We cannot end up going out of this chamber without having put some regime in place and there is no ideal answer that is going to satisfy everybody.”

Councillor Gord Perks replied that “the billionaires and millionaires” who invested in Uber and Toronto taxi plates will benefit from Tory’s plan.

The losers, he said, will be taxi drivers and passengers with fewer safety protections, such as cameras in every vehicle.

Among the measures approved by council:

- Allow private transportation companies (PTCs) like Uber to operate in Toronto, booked only through a smartphone app, with a $3.25 minimum fare, no maximum fares and “surge” peak-time pricing.

- Allow taxis to adopt “surge” peak-time pricing for rides booked via smartphone app, and to discount pricing as long as drivers aren't forced to pay the cost of the discount.

- Maintain requirements for taxis to have cameras, and flashing emergency lights, but not for PTCs. Have city staff report back next year on whether PTCs need cameras.

- Ensure PTCs and taxis have insurance of at least $2 million on all drivers for bodily injury, death and damages to people or property.

- Undo 2014 reforms that would have phased out ownership of “standard” plates as a commodity and ensure all cabs be disabled-accessible by 2024.

Uber Canada general manager Ian Black said the company can live by the new rules.

“We're certainly pleased. This is a great day for the riders in the city of Toronto, a great day for drivers as well using the Uber platform,” Black said after the vote. He singled out Tory's leadership, “for shepherding this issue through council to a big step forward today.”

Questioned by councillors earlier in the day, city staff said relaxed requirements for the taxi industry were meant to “empower” them to compete with the sudden popularity of Uber in Toronto.

Tracey Cook, the head of city licensing, said some people were interpreting a “level playing field” between Uber and taxis as one that prevents competition.

“The level of the playing field depends on the viewpoint you’re standing from,” Cook told council. “Many people’s view in the taxi industry of a level playing field means the same playing field and that there is no room for anything outside of taxicab service.”

Cook said, in creating a unique set of rules for private transportation companies, staff tried to assess the “risk” associated with each group of drivers and regulate accordingly.

Unconvinced were hundreds of taxi industry supporters wearing yellow T-shirts urging councillors not to approve a “two-tier” system.

Their boisterous support for those arguing against rules legalizing Uber grew quiet as it became obvious that Tory and his supporters were about to do just that.

They had an unexpected supporter in the form of former councillor Doug Ford, who made an afternoon appearance in the council chamber and said it was not about the future of the Ward 2 seat held by his late brother, Rob Ford.

“We’re here to support the taxi folks,” Ford said during a media scrum, after pulling on a yellow T-shirt.

Uber Canada has said they welcome regulations and are flexible on some requirements, but that their business model relies on part-time drivers who would be dissuaded from signing up for the app if it costs too much or takes too long to be licensed.

Tory’s office said it wanted regulations that encourage other, smaller ride-hailing companies such as Lyft to set up shop in Toronto.

Lyft executive Michael Masserman emailed councillors Monday.

“These regulations maintain rigorous consumer safety standards, while recognizing the unique part-time nature of the ride-sharing industry,” the email said. “In fact, 80 per cent of Lyft drivers are only doing this 10-15 hours a week, which means that burdensome requirements would impede the ability of ride-sharing, and the benefits associated with it, to be successful in Toronto.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2016/05/03/toronto-city-council-debates-uber-rules.html
 

destillat

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I use Uber all the time now. I'll never use a taxi ever again.
You said you use Uber Assist... how does that work?
I have wondered on a few occasions if I could request an Uber for someone else.
For example, my SO does not have data on her phone, if we were not together, could I send an Uber to pick her up and take her somewhere and bill it to my account?
 

Terminator2000

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how does uber eats, work?

Does some random person just deliver/bring u food?

Never tried it before.
 

SashaRose

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Yes finally! I find über drivers to be more professional, more accommodating and easier to communicate with. The pros of taking uber far outweigh any cons if any.
 

GameBoy27

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I use Uber all the time now. I'll never use a taxi ever again.
You said you use Uber Assist... how does that work?
uberASSIST is designed to provide additional assistance to seniors and people with disabilities. Driver-partners are specifically trained by Open Doors Organization to assist riders into vehicles and can accommodate folding wheelchairs, walkers, and scooters. Instead of selecting uberX you simply select uberASSIST on your smartphone. It works and costs the same as uberX.

I have wondered on a few occasions if I could request an Uber for someone else.
For example, my SO does not have data on her phone, if we were not together, could I send an Uber to pick her up and take her somewhere and bill it to my account?
I do this all the time. My wife doesn't have the app so I just arrange her trip for her. If we're having a party, I'll often send people home by uber. It's so simple.

I'll use uberPool if I'm not in a hurry. It's less expensive than uberX and we often don't even stop to pick up anyone else.

Yes finally! I find über drivers to be more professional, more accommodating and easier to communicate with. The pros of taking uber far outweigh any cons if any.
100% ^^^ :nod:
 

destillat

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I'll use uberPool if I'm not in a hurry. It's less expensive than uberX and we often don't even stop to pick up anyone else.
Yea, I've contemplated trying that.
I am in the burbs and I am almost positive that we wouldn't pick up anyone else.
But UberX is already much cheaper, I'd kinda feel bad for the driver if I used UberPool and paid less and he didn't have another paying fare.
 

GameBoy27

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Anyone know an easy way to find out how each Clowncillor voted?
 

KBear

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Yes finally! I find über drivers to be more professional, more accommodating and easier to communicate with. The pros of taking uber far outweigh any cons if any.
Many girls have told me this, and that the drivers are more respectful. Would think that for some ladies, knowing that the driver is identified would be a plus.
 

AdamH

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I like Uber. I like being able to see where my cab is as it's coming to me. I like being able to see who my cab driver is before I get in. I like being able to report my driver to their "boss" if they're driving dangerously (as I did last weekend) and have it actually result in somebody talking to the driver (and possibly the driver losing his ability to drive for Uber) and then following up with me about my concerns. The fact that Uber is also usually CHEAPER is just icing on the cake.
 

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uberASSIST is designed to provide additional assistance to seniors and people with disabilities. Driver-partners are specifically trained by Open Doors Organization to assist riders into vehicles and can accommodate folding wheelchairs, walkers, and scooters. Instead of selecting uberX you simply select uberASSIST on your smartphone. It works and costs the same as uberX.



I do this all the time. My wife doesn't have the app so I just arrange her trip for her. If we're having a party, I'll often send people home by uber. It's so simple.

I'll use uberPool if I'm not in a hurry. It's less expensive than uberX and we often don't even stop to pick up anyone else.



100% ^^^ :nod:
Even if you choose uber pool, if you aren't matched with an additional rider, you get charged the UberX rate. Not the uberPOOL rate.
 

Danielle@SFT

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Is being charged the uberx rate if not matched new? Took it a couple weeks ago and it was still guaranteed price, even if no one else was picked up.
 

Chloë.

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Is being charged the uberx rate if not matched new? Took it a couple weeks ago and it was still guaranteed price, even if no one else was picked up.
Actually wait! I lied, you are right.

I'm thinking of the drivers. It was $4 guaranteed rate no matter the distance last week or the week before but apparently drivers were being paid the rate it was supposed to be. Like from here to Waterloo was $4 during the promo for riders lol! Uber was footing the rest of the bill for the drivers.
 

doggystyle99

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The city has asked all Uber drivers to have a $2M insurance liability and so far no insurance company has or is willing to give a blanket insurance policy to Uber drivers due to the wide variables, and no Uber X driver will go and purchase a commercial insurance policy that averages at about $700-900/month when the majority of Uber X drivers drive part time. So it would be really interesting to see what happens in the next few months with the Uber X drivers?
Whether they abide with the laws or they just stop driving? Also I am not sure if there was a deadline put on all of this as I didn't read a date anywhere.

Also the city has de regulated the taxi industry again by letting cab companies use surge pricing (like uber) if mobile apps are used, and CPR and first aid training for cab drivers have been removed.

It is really unfortunate that the city counsel is so divided on this matter and some of them are so partisan due to the fact that they have been bought by either industry and are in the pockets of either the taxi or uber industry rather than putting the publics interest first.

What they should have done is they should of made Uber platform drop it's pricing to compete with the taxi industry and gotten rid of the Uber X platform since it does not abide by the laws in the industry. and if they didn't want to abide by those laws kick them out of the city.
I do hope Lyft and other platforms come to Toronto and hope Halo tries again to come to this city to keep the Uber platform in check so they don't just do whatever they please without any competition.
 

doggystyle99

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You obviously didn't read the whole article. From the article:

“We are very concerned that an Aviva announcement that ‘an approved product exists and is available for purchase’ will be misconstrued by politicians to mean ‘20,000 illegal UberX drivers are now insured,’
"Aviva’s coverage is an addition to its personal auto policy and will be available to drivers licensed for at least six years, who spend up to 20 hours a week participating in ride hailing, and for a maximum of eight occupants."

"Uber Canada said it hasn’t reviewed Aviva’s policy, but it is encouraged to see interest from insurers.
Uber and Intact have been working with provincial regulators for a number of months and Intact has completed their full submission for approval,” said spokeswoman Susie Heath."

Again as it stands right now Uber x drivers do not have full $2M liability insurance.
 

Chloë.

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You obviously didn't read the whole article. From the article:

“We are very concerned that an Aviva announcement that ‘an approved product exists and is available for purchase’ will be misconstrued by politicians to mean ‘20,000 illegal UberX drivers are now insured,’
"Aviva’s coverage is an addition to its personal auto policy and will be available to drivers licensed for at least six years, who spend up to 20 hours a week participating in ride hailing, and for a maximum of eight occupants."

"Uber Canada said it hasn’t reviewed Aviva’s policy, but it is encouraged to see interest from insurers.
Uber and Intact have been working with provincial regulators for a number of months and Intact has completed their full submission for approval,” said spokeswoman Susie Heath."

Again as it stands right now Uber x drivers do not have full $2M liability insurance.
https://newsroom.uber.com/canada/en/innovative-ridesharing-insurance-2/

Intact Financial's been working with Uber to develop a plan since at least Sept 2015. Now with the regulations clearly in play, things will be clearer. That is a good thing.
 
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