And btw. To say she isn't a lying, sociopathic cunt is delusional. Stick to the premise as you please but don't ever state she isn't deserving of the hatred and vitrol. She is.
Holmolka Alive And Well Living in Quebec
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Well your "beliefs" are factually incorrect. Which is the premise behind my argument that without knowing the real facts, your arguments are fundamentally flawed.
It was Paul Bernardo's lawyer Ken Murray. At the direction of Bernardo, he retrieved the tapes that were hidden behind a pot light. In the bathroom.
He withheld them on the basis that they would discredit Homolka's testimony against his client.
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He was charged criminally, tried and acquitted of obstruction of justice. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/court-finds-bernardo-lawyer-not-guilty-1.252668
"Murray has testified he had planned to use the tapes to discredit Homolka. They would have shown her to be a liar and discredited the main witness against his client.Experts believe the plea bargain would never have happened if the courts had seen the gruesome videotapes.
In his verdict, Justice Patrick Gravely pointed out the guidelines for lawyers who come into evidence aren't clear.
"In my opinion, it does not follow that because concealment of incriminating evidence is forbidden, there is a corresponding positive obligation to disclose," said Gravely. "
The Law Society charged him with professional misconduct but later dropped the charges, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/law-society-of-upper-canada-clears-ken-murray-1.236308
Your argument is really that weak that you have to make shit up? I never said anything about her NOT being a lying, sociopathic cunt. . I am arguing the legal system of our country is more important than any one individual. And visceral, feelings-based desires for lynch mob vengance are inappropriate in Canada. More inappropriate than her being out having served her sentence.
If you like this type of justice, perhaps you might prefer to live in rural Brazil, the Middle East or aSharia Law based "justice" system.
Ah. Thanks for the correction on which had the tapes. It was an honest mistake.
As to the rest the premise is she has paid her debt to society. However society is made up of people and I think pretty much everyone agrees that she hasn't paid her debt in relation to the severity of her crimes.
The system failed. Society feels the anger and the guilt of that. And will continue to make her pay for her crimes. No one is calling for the rope but if you think she will ever be accepted as a normal functioning member of a community then you are wrong.
Good people don't want evil in their lives. She defines that.
As to the rest the premise is she has paid her debt to society. However society is made up of people and I think pretty much everyone agrees that she hasn't paid her debt in relation to the severity of her crimes.
The system failed. Society feels the anger and the guilt of that. And will continue to make her pay for her crimes. No one is calling for the rope but if you think she will ever be accepted as a normal functioning member of a community then you are wrong.
Good people don't want evil in their lives. She defines that.
I guess the point I am trying to make is that feelings and actions of vengence, even if just harassment, are not good for society in general. Despite how society may feel. The rule of law is more important than any one criminal. Or the feelings of a hundred victims families. I don't say this without regard for the incomprehesible pain they have suffered.
So you are now speaking on behalf of "society", of which "pretty much everyone agrees" ? And that makes your argument valid?
I am not going to spend time going into deconstructing logical fallacies, including "Argumentun ad populum" but I recognize you as an intelligent man and you might learn something by reading up on it here http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/popular.html
Introduction to LogicArgumentum Ad Populum
Abstract: The argument based upon what most or all people think or believe is characterized and shown to be sometimes persuasive but normally fallacious.
Argumentum ad Populum (popular appeal or appeal to the majority): The fallacy of attempting to win popular assent to a conclusion by arousing the feeling and enthusiasms of the multitude.
