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GPIDEAL

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You guys all foaming at the mouth with claims of "innocence", false accusations, criminal conspiracy and defamation of character!

If you read the Judgement, the Judge essentially said that

1. The accused comes to court with a presumption of innocence.

2. The Crown must provide evidence that an offence occurred, beyond a reasonable doubt.

3. The Crown's evidence was supplied by witnesses statements and testimony.

4. The witnesses attempted to deceive the Court on several matters (mostly after the fact of the alleged assaults) that essentially made them not credible witnesses, therefore their evidence was not reliable.

5. Without reliable, credible witness evidence, there was essentially no admissible evidence to overcome the presumption of innocence and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty.

6. Not guilty is NOT THE SAME AS INNOCENT!!!!!!!
Innocent means the accusation was DIS-PROVEN.
NOT Guilty means that the accusation was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

7. The Judge specifically said that this finding does not mean that the alleged assaults did not occur, just that the witnesses' own dishonest and deceptive conduct on the events that occurred after the alleged assaults resulted in them having to be deemed as non-credible witnesses.





As for suing for "defamation of character"

Ghomeshi can sue for whatever he wants. Nothing to stop him from suing the women for making a false accusation, for defaming his character. Just write up the Statement of Claim, file it in court and serve the women.

Now.... when they defend themselves by using Ghoemeshis own words that he enjoys and practices rough sex, including punching, slapping and choking I think they'd end up winning the lawsuit and getting their lawyer's costs awarded to them for Ghomeshi wasting their time, the courts time and all that money.


There is no doubt in my, or most people's minds that he did indeed slap and/or choke them without advance consent, to see if they would respond positively to this. But the women in trying to somehow demonstrate they they weren't bad irls for continuing to pursue or see him afterwards, have only themselves to blame for his acquittal.

Had the women admitted they tried to keep in contact with him, pursue him etc but that it still bothered them that he slapped or choked them earlier, then they would likely have succeeded in him being found guilty. But they lied so they exposed themselves to being humiliated for not pursuing him, but lying about it.


I understand what you're saying in point 6. After all, nobody believes O.J. was innocent (this recent finding of another knife though is interesting but too early to change things).

However, I'm sure you've heard that expression "Presumption of Innocence".

If Ghomeshi sues, it may be for wrongful dismissal if his job or the CBC's reputation depends on what happens in his bedroom, provided he is not guilty of a crime.
 

GameBoy27

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Ghomeshi is an arrogant prick. He crossed the line however his celebrity saved him because the women he was with were starstruck before and unfortunately after their encounter(s).

Where the case fell apart was when the women deliberately withheld information from the police/prosecutors, compared notes in an attempt to bring him down, and then lied under oath in terms of their contact with Ghomeshi after their encounter(s) with him.

Forget that he was up on assault charges, it could have been homicide, robbery or anything else - desexualize it. He can only be convicted by proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The conduct of the complainants after their encounter in withholding information, colluding and lying under oath made them unreliable. There was no way in the world he would be convicted period.
I suspect the women knew that if they told the police everything that was revealed during the case, JG wouldn't have been charged in the first place. So they withheld evidence, colluded and lied in an effort to destroy his career but at the same time made themselves look really bad.

Having said that, I truly believe he's a piece of shit who likes to smack women around.

If Ghomeshi sues, it may be for wrongful dismissal if his job or the CBC's reputation depends on what happens in his bedroom, provided he is not guilty of a crime.
Union employee, can't sue.
 

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Insidious Von

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Right to the point.

Jan Ghomeshi may be an arsewipe but at this stage it's very difficult to convict him. Lucy Decoutere neutron bombed the prosecution's case, it's a matter of reasonable doubt.
 

GameBoy27

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Right to the point.

Jan Ghomeshi may be an arsewipe but at this stage it's very difficult to convict him. Lucy Decoutere neutron bombed the prosecution's case, it's a matter of reasonable doubt.
All three witnesses did!
 

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on 5:30 Global News a conclave of man hating feminazis and their emasculated "male allies" are chanting "we believe survivors". while islamists at dundas square are giving out wife beating and sex slavery books without interruption.
 

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Smallcock

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6. Not guilty is NOT THE SAME AS INNOCENT!!!!!!!
Innocent means the accusation was DIS-PROVEN.
NOT Guilty means that the accusation was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.



This is why Ghomeshi needs to sue and punish these women in a court of law. There are tens of thousands of people like SchlongConery out there that misinterpret the ruling and therefore even though Ghomeshi is innocent, SchlongConery will make his life hell, for the rest of his life.
 

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Yes I agree, he need to go at them with the full force of civil court and make himself the victim. I hope he does it. In fact I would also file a criminal complaint against the women so they face criminal sanctions and show that they conspired to file false charges against him. Women everywhere need to start understanding that false accusations of rape are a very serious matter and cause great harm to both the victim and other victims of rape. These women really need to be fired from CBC as well.

This is why Ghomeshi needs to sue and punish these women in a court of law. There are tens of thousands of people like SchlongConery out there that misinterpret the ruling and therefore even though Ghomeshi is innocent, SchlongConery will make his life hell, for the rest of his life.
 

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The protesters are heading to police headquarters. Are the BLM folks still there?
#BLM = #Islamophobia = #manhatingfemis

They apply the same principles of manipulation by abusing the system through the abuse experienced through actual victims to victimize others for their own personal gains, even if actions are against the law. This is so sad, because it takes away from the actual victims and people who need the support.

If they don't persecute these women criminally then this says a lot about our system and the political influence of the above noted groups to support criminal activities and intimitade the system to enable acts that are beyond the law by not prosecuting the ones who commit criminal acts.

Why are these abusers allowed to function in our society hiding through the vails of the above noted hashtags and why do they get so much support? Why are we allowing them to victimized our society by using actual victims to support their agendas??? Fucking reminds me of my own distant family and the abuse they inflict onto each other hiding behind the catholic religion to support their ills.
 

SchlongConery

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This is why Ghomeshi needs to sue and punish these women in a court of law. There are tens of thousands of people like SchlongConery out there that misinterpret the ruling and therefore even though Ghomeshi is innocent, SchlongConery will make his life hell, for the rest of his life.

You have a fundamental bias and misapprehension of the law.

If he has any shred of a civil case he will o after them, the CBC etc ... but just watch. He has very good legal advice (even better than yours and nottibo's!) and you won't see any lawsuits because he would lose.

And trust me, I have first hand knowledge of almost exactly the same situation that was an outright fabrication. So I am highly sensitive to false allegations andd the civil and criminal legalities surrounding them. In my books, if there is any doubt, then the accused should not be convicted. Nor charged in many cases. That means a lot of people who did in fact commit the crimes go free also. I'm ok with that.
 

SchlongConery

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Yes I agree, he need to go at them with the full force of civil court and make himself the victim. I hope he does it. In fact I would also file a criminal complaint against the women so they face criminal sanctions and show that they conspired to file false charges against him. Women everywhere need to start understanding that false accusations of rape are a very serious matter and cause great harm to both the victim and other victims of rape. These women really need to be fired from CBC as well.

You also have a fundamental bias that interferes with your ability to comprehend the law.
 

AK-47

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Are you a lawyer, Schlong??
 

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Not a big shock that he was found not guilty. The amount of evidence he had he could have hired almost any lawyer.
 

SchlongConery

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Are you a lawyer, Schlong??
Nope.

But I have an interest in law and have studied more than a little. Also, in my life I have been directly and indirectly involved in many different and interesting legal cases so have a decent understanding. I also have learned that the law is not always about common sense or what seems obvious.

Read Justice's Horkin's decision to really understand the case. http://www.ontariocourts.ca/en/24Mar16.pdf
 
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