CBC report - Most Canadians don't think humans are the main cause of climate change
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Another comic source!
You really know how to pick them, canada-man.
There are some real doozies there, total crackpot conspiracy theory nonsense.
If anyone wants to understand how foolish most of the denier claims are, canada-man's sources are a really entertaining place to start.
www.churchofglobalwarming.com
The only other option in the poll was 'natural variations'. These were the questions:
Of course the real odds that 15 of the last 16 years were 'natural variation' have bee worked out as being 0.01% of being correct.
That's what you get with 10 years of a government that actively stopped scientists from speaking.
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...possible-without-manmade-climate-change-study
then what caused the medieval warming period?
why was the earth warmer than today between 8000 BC and 1000BC?
And they were not wrong. The geological data says conclusively that another ice age is guaranteed. Seismologists are right, too. There's a big one coming. Tomorrow or in ten thousand years. Such predictions greatly contribute to my peace of mind. It comes, it comes, but until then- I don't give a crap- beyond my control.
Well, 45 years ago, the Club of Rome - a group comprised of what were thought to be the best scientific minds on the planet, published 'The Limits to Growth' which predicted imminent catastrophe due to an impending shortage of just about every natural resource. Hence the title - , the end of cheap resources would put an end to growth in the world economy. I suppose they probably had a 98% consensus, so the science was undoubtedly settled then too.
Shortly thereafter the prices of natural resources plummeted and stayed down for about 20 years.
There is no evidence of that provided.
One could just as easily say, "Most of the supporters the Global Warming disaster Theory are typical left-wing types who have an agenda to extend the already far-reaching tentacles of government control into further reaches of human activity.
Why would anyone care what the majority of citizens think about it? What should concern us is what the majority of climatologists think. And the consensus is overwhelming.
Yes, and the reason we don't hear about it now is not because it was false, but because we did something about it. Same with ozone depletion, we took steps to reduce ozone destroying chemicals. And the algae blooms in the Great Lakes during the 50s and 60s, we took steps to remove phosphates from detergents.
Actually, what we should be looking at is the evidence and how it compares with the predictions. And on that score, the evidence is incredibly underwhelming.
As for the views of the public, it matters in one respect -- it shows that attempts to marginalize people who have doubts have clearly failed. Faith-based appeals to authority aren't working.
The difference is that most people care about clean air, clean water and tasty food. Most people don't give a rat's ass about consensus. Personally, I blame the education system that failed to teach us that science can be settled by consensus.
EDITOR'S NOTE: CBC has made changes to this story following clarification by the researchers. An earlier version said that a majority of Canadians surveyed didn't believe that climate change was caused by humans. In fact, the study found that 61 per cent of respondents believed the earth is getting warmer partly or mostly because of human activities.
p.s. Pretty similar to polls about Canadians and evolution; again 61% support evolution.
Sue me if I listen to the scientists rather than the anti-science portion of the population.
No. One or two people put out papers that were rejected by the scientific community at large.
Actually the article quite clearly shows it. The researchers plotted the opinions by region. Alberta was the region where the fewest believed humans impact climate change.
If you actually wanted to look at things scientifically, the question is which theory produces the most reliable results. Considering you and the rest of the anti-science crew refuse to suggest a better theory....
Even the anti-evolution crowd has given an alternate hypothesis but god/magical designer is hardly a testable theory.
That's Canada-man's source, iceagetheatre.ca who was calling an ice age in 30 years, that's where he was getting some of his charts from.
No legit scientists predicted an imminent ice age.
In fact there was a study that looked at the 2 or 3% of peer assessed papers that didn't support the theory of anthropogenic climate change, when they were looked at they were found to have major issues, from ignoring data that didn't support their findings, poor science and other nonsense to the point that none of those studies could be replicated.
They were found to be just shoddy work.
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...trarian-papers?CMP=twt_a-science_b-gdnscience
