Taxpayers pay for Trudeau’s Nannies

[MattRoxx]

You mean like the 12 buck OJ?

The press on ALL sides of the spectrum are happy to play the gotcha game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bev_Oda
It was $16.
Conservatives really suck at numbers. But you bring up a good point: Bev Oda had a history of gouging taxpayers and living high off the hog (ie, committing fraud against taxpayers) and no one in the ruling Conservative party had a problem with it.

In 2006, Oda paid back $2,200 to taxpayers after the Liberals found that she had incurred nearly $5,500 in limousine rides at the 2006 Juno Awards in Halifax.[12] In 2008, she was accused of hiding over $17,000 of limousine expenses billed to taxpayers.[12]

In February 2011, Bev Oda admitted to directing one of her staff to add a handwritten annotation to an already signed Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA) memo in 2009 that resulted in a funding recommendation for KAIROS being ignored.[13] The memo was altered by the addition of 'not'[1] into the recommendation line of the document.[14] When asked about the matter, Oda had at first told Parliament that she did not know who had made the change.[13] Opposition MPs on the House Foreign Affairs committee requested that the Speaker rule on the possible contempt of parliament against Oda but Prime Minister Harper continued to support Oda.[15] On March 9, 2011, the Speaker of the House made a ruling on the issue of Oda's behaviour, stating that "on its face" Oda's statements had caused confusion, which still persisted. Oda replied in the House that she was ready to answer to the confusion, at a House of Commons special committee meeting to be held over three full days the following week.[16] Speaker Peter Milliken found on prima facie that the controversy warranted further investigation by a formal parliamentary committee; however, the committee was not able to reach a decision regarding Oda, as the parliamentary session was brought to an end following the non-confidence motion that triggered the 2011 federal election.[17][18] That election saw Oda retain her seat with 54% of the popular vote.[19]

On April 23, 2012, it was reported that during a 2011 conference on immunization of poor children Oda had refused to stay in the conference hotel (the Grange St. Paul) furnished by hosts.[20] She instead stayed at the Savoy Hotel at a cost of $665 per night for three nights, ordered orange juice at a cost of $16 and hired a limousine to transport her between her new hotel and the conference. She was also charged $250 for smoking in a non-smoking room.[21] The costs incurred were at public expense.[20] Only after widespread media reports of this misuse of public money emerged approximately ten months after the conference did Oda repay the difference in hotel costs but not the limousine costs incurred by her decision.[22] The total amount she paid back after she was exposed by the media was $1,353.81.[23] By April 26, it was announced that Oda had repaid the expenses incurred on the taxi rides as well.[24]

 

[trippingwalker]

worst. thread. ever.

 

[MattRoxx]

And as I said before, Rona Ambrose (and Postmedia) still appear to have no idea what went wrong with the Conservative party and campaign, what matters to Canadians, and how to change in order to possibly succeed.

Do Conservatives Understand Why They Lost?http://ipolitics.ca/2015/12/03/do-the-conservatives-understand-yet-why-they-lost/
As any recovering addict will tell you, the first step towards getting clean is admitting you have a problem.
By that measure, the Conservative Party of Canada is still deep in the throes of withdrawal — and the addiction to absolute power is the hardest habit of all to kick. Their thrashing on October 19 came about because of what they did with that power — that, and the fact that they allowed their party to become a cult led by a man who diminished them all. The lesson clearly hasn’t sunk in.

How else can one explain the fact that there are still people in and around the party denying the need for change, and doing the revisionist history thing on the Harper years — Steve as a bright star in the Conservative firmament. Or, as Wayne Gretzky described the former PM, “one of the greatest.” Dreck.
The truth — and it’s a hard truth Conservatives are going to have to get past, if they want to get anywhere at all — is that Harper was one of the worst prime ministers this country has ever seen. The main problem with the Harperless Conservatives is that the interim leadership has gone to someone just as unrepentant about the Harper years as Steve is himself.

Rona Ambrose (and almost all of the full-time leadership hopefuls) sat around the cabinet table for every bum decision that was made — from deceiving Canadians about the cost of the F-35 fighter jet to abandoning the environment file. Ambrose does not represent renewal. She represents the same dead-end gang that Canadians rejected with glee.

 

[MattRoxx]

worst. thread. ever.

I know! The economy, jobs, environment, ISIS, crime, refugee crisis, corporate welfare and tax evasion, cannabis legalization....let's ignore those trivial matters and focus on the much more important distinction of job responsibilities between $15/hr housekeepers vs nannies.

Making this an important issue is what's going to turn around the fortunes of both the Conservative party and their propaganda tool Postmedia LOL.

 

[Butler1000]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bev_Oda
It was $16.
Conservatives really suck at numbers. But you bring up a good point: Bev Oda had a history of gouging taxpayers and living high off the hog (ie, committing fraud against taxpayers) and no one in the ruling Conservative party had a problem with it.

See. Each side is happy to play the gotcha game. But I don't fixate. Not on if I can. Sometimes it does piss me off. And Bev Oda was one that did too.

I couldn't bother to Google the exact dollar amount of the nefarious OJ. That is was overpriced in an overpriced hotel was enough.

But Justin has been touted as a different politician. (as they all seem to be touted)

All this proves is he isn't any better right?

 

[Titalian]

I don't actually have a problem with taxpayers footing the bill. But after he stated during his campaign that rich families like his and former prime minister Stephen Harper’s didn’t need taxpayers’ help, what does he do? He hires taxpayer funded nannies. That makes him a hypocrite!

We voted in a man, who has children in the house. What is the issue here ??? Fuk I can't believe I'm reading this BS. Most of you are grasping at straws GROW UP.

 

[K Douglas]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bev_Oda
It was $16.
Conservatives really suck at numbers. But you bring up a good point: Bev Oda had a history of gouging taxpayers and living high off the hog (ie, committing fraud against taxpayers) and no one in the ruling Conservative party had a problem with it.

That is not true. Many in the party had an issue with it but the problem was overall that she was a competent minister and a female Japanese Canadian which was good optics for the party. But after the Savoy incident they had no choice but to remove her from cabinet. She resigned just ahead of the planned cabinet shuffle.

 

[lucky_blue]

Brian Mulroney classified his nannies as maids during his time in office.

Yes - that may be true. I don't recall ever saying that these blood sucking parasites are confined only to the Liberal party - it's just that it seems to be the norm for liberals to benefit at the expense of other people.

The welfare state encourages people to ignore, to violate–even to pretend does not exist–the moral principle that it is wrong to live at other people’s expense.

 

[K Douglas]

We voted in a man, who has children in the house. What is the issue here ??? Fuk I can't believe I'm reading this BS. Most of you are grasping at straws GROW UP.

The issue is he makes $330,000 per year base salary plus extensive benefits. He should be paying for his own child care like every other Canadian. He chose the role knowing that it required extensive travel for himself, and occasionally his spouse. That being said I have no problem with subsidizing his nannies when he and Sophie are away on official business representing Canada.

 

[trippingwalker]

I know! The economy, jobs, environment, ISIS, crime, refugee crisis, corporate welfare and tax evasion, cannabis legalization....let's ignore those trivial matters and focus on the much more important distinction of job responsibilities between $15/hr housekeepers vs nannies.

Making this an important issue is what's going to turn around the fortunes of both the Conservative party and their propaganda tool Postmedia LOL.

exactly my point. cheers!

 

[lucky_blue]

exactly my point. cheers!

Imagine what the chart would look like for the CBC (Liberal propaganda tool - if it were a publicly listed company) and it lost it's billion dollar plus taxpayer subsidy. Instead Trudeau II bribes them with a promise of an extra $150 million if he wins the election. It is truly disgusting.

 

[Titalian]

The issue is he makes $330,000 per year base salary plus extensive benefits. He should be paying for his own child care like every other Canadian. He chose the role knowing that it required extensive travel for himself, and occasionally his spouse. That being said I have no problem with subsidizing his nannies when he and Sophie are away on official business representing Canada.

Douglas I really don't give a shit. Is this the only thing you can up with, to try and destroy this guys reputation. Man, talk about cheap.

 

[lucky_blue]

It is an employment benefit. Claiming that the employment benefits of any government employee are tax benefits is stupid beyond belief. Dumber than petrified wood. An employment benefit has nothing to do with tax policy or social programs.

Really you make yourself into a figure of fun: what are we to conclude from this thread, that conservative voters are dumber than fence posts? Can't tell the difference between an employment benefit and a tax benefit???

How many employers cover the cost of two nannies for an employee? It is a fraction of a fraction of 1%. Trudeau II is not a one percenter but a 0.1 percenter.

 

[lucky_blue]

Douglas I really don't give a shit. Is this the only thing you can up with, to try and destroy this guys reputation. Man, talk about cheap.

What reputation? Snowboard instructor or theater teacher? Seriously - you think this guy is qualified to be the Prime Minister of Canada?

 

[Titalian]

What reputation? Snowboard instructor or part time theater teacher?

A lot better than than greedy lawyers. Don't you think ?

 

[Titalian]

What reputation? Snowboard instructor or theater teacher?

Lets give him a couple of years at the least. NO? Lets see what happens.

 

[lucky_blue]

A lot better than than greedy lawyers. Don't you think ?

You mean like the large number of liers/lawyers in his cabinet and members of parliament?

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/elec...ations-for-candidates-in-each-party-1.2602533

Or better than his (likely islamist) Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs ?

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/12/is-omar-alghabra-of-canadas-liberal-party-an

Apr. 16, 2013 update: Canada's Liberal Party has elected Justin Trudeau as its leader; one press account calls Alghabra "a long-time personal friend" of his.

Dec. 2, 2015 update: Alghabra has been appointed Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs with a focus on consular affairs. As the CBC article reporting this news explains, parliamentary secretaries "assist and represent ministers in their absence, including taking questions in the House of Commons on the minister's behalf."

 

[Titalian]

You mean like the large number of liers in his cabinet and members of parliament?

Or better than his (likely islamist) Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Foreign Affairs ?

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/12/is-omar-alghabra-of-canadas-liberal-party-an

I believe your paranoid, I'll leave it at that.

 

[lucky_blue]

I believe your paranoid, I'll leave it at that.

lol - I'm paranoid for posting a link from Daniel Pipes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pipes

Tashbih Sayyed, former editor of the Muslim World Today and the Pakistan Times (not the Pakistani newspaper of the same name), stated about Pipes, "He must be listened to. If there is no Daniel Pipes, there is no source for America to learn to recognize the evil which threatens it... Muslims in America that are like Samson; they have come into the temple to pull down the pillars, even if it means destroying themselves." Similarly, Ahmed Subhy Mansour, a former visiting fellow at Harvard Law School, writes, "We Muslims need a thinker like Dr. Pipes, who can criticize the terrorist culture within Islam."

Well about 280 million people have been killed by islamic jihadis since Muhammad started the jihad in 624 AD.

The Liberal party has been openly courting the Islamist vote for more than a decade. Big difference between opening your eyes to reality and being paranoid.

 

[Butler1000]

I believe your paranoid, I'll leave it at that.

Considering your posts on 9/11 I think this statement is quite laughable.