October Smashes Temperature Records Practically Guaranteeing 2015 Will Be HottestYear

[Moviefan-2]

So what is your problem with the numbers, are you claiming that there is something dishonest in the changes?

I don't have any problem with the numbers -- they confirm there wasn't a single month in 2015 that NASA had reported as a record-breaking month.

Once again, you were completely wrong.

(Or are you still trying to claim that 84 is a bigger number than 87 and 88?)

 

[Frankfooter]

I don't have any problem with the numbers

If you have no problem with the numbers they you must accept that 2015 is a record breaking year.
They now confirm what NOAA has been reporting.

The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for October 2015 was the highest for October in the 136-year period of record, at 0.98°C (1.76°F) above the 20th century average of 14.0°C (57.1°F). This marked the sixth consecutive month a monthly global temperature record has been broken and was also the greatest departure from average for any month in the 1630 months of recordkeeping, surpassing the previous record high departure set just last month by 0.13°F (0.07°C). The October temperature is currently increasing at an average rate of 0.06°C (0.11°F) per decade.

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201510

You must agree, since you have no problem with the numbers.

Globally, last month was the hottest October ever recorded, according to information released today by NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The global average temperature on land and ocean surfaces combined was 1.76 degrees above the 20th century average, marking a bigger departure from the average than September's record-breaking temperatures were.

So far 2015 has experienced the highest temperatures on average since 1880, according to a report from NOAA.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/18/climate-change-october-was-the-hottest-on-record.html

 

[PornAddict]

Right, so your defence that you're not a conspiracy wingnut is to link to a comment on some denier blog post.
That about sums up your lack of self awareness.

thanks.

You so fucking a nutjob!!
When the globe warming is debunked totally by the year 2030 when the mini-ice age arrives.. This will prove you leftwing kooks climate scientists got it totally wrong because of hubris and plus also of job security!! Think of it logically without the globe warming theory they would be out of a job..that a fact.. Over 1 trillion dollar spend worldwide on this theory all this countries in total!
The angry by the public on scientists will be immense and the public will never ever trust climate scientist again.. On the plus side the right wing government like the conservative will be proven right and conservative will be trusted and hopefully the canadian public will always will vote for conservative party if they are proof corrected!!

And Obama legency will be how much money and nasa and NAOA Wasted due to a flaw theory and due to hubris on climate !
The sad part is billions wasted and could have been spent on cancer research or helping the poor!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...na-commerce-secretary-to-get-noaa-documents/#


Congressman now threatens to subpoena commerce secretary over global warming report


By Lisa Rein November 18 2015

Smokestack of a coal-fired power plant in northern China (Mark Schiefelbein/AP)
House Science Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Tex.) opened another front in his war with federal climate researchers on Wednesday, saying a groundbreaking global warming study was “rushed to publication” over the objections of numerous scientists at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.


In a second letter in less than a week to Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker, Smith urged her to pressure NOAA to comply with his subpoena for internal communications. Smith says whistleblowers have come forward with new information on the climate study’s path to publication in June.The study refuted claims that global warming had “paused” or slowed over the past decade, undercutting a popular argument used by those who refute the scientific consensus that man-made pollution is behind global warming.

[NOAA climate feud: Pursuit of scientific truth vs. public accountability ]

The research, considered a bombshell in the climate change debate, set off alarms among skeptics. Smith, a prominent congressional skeptic, claimed that scientists manipulated data to advance President Obama’s agenda and timed the study’s release to coincide with the administration’s new limits on emissions from coal plants.

He is seeking NOAA’s internal communications and e-mails among its researchers, and in October subpoenaed Administrator Kathryn Sullivan for the documents. But she has refused to turn them over, saying that deliberative communications between scientists should be protected.

[As Congress probes the global warming ‘pause,’ actual temperatures are surging]



Smith told Pritzker that the whistleblowers’ allegations make it more crucial that he be provided with the scientists’ internal e-mails and communications. If NOAA does not produce the e-mails he is seeking by Friday, the chairman said, “I will be forced to consider use of compulsory process,” a threat to subpoena the commerce secretary herself.

Whistleblowers have told the committee, according to Smith’s letter, that Thomas Karl — the director of NOAA’s National Centers for Environmental Information, which led the study — “rushed” to publish the climate study “before all appropriate reviews of the underlying science and new methodologies” used in the climate data sets were conducted.


“NOAA employees raised concerns about the timing and integrity of the process but were ignored,” he wrote.

[Congress demands climate change documents as scientists warn of ‘chilling effect’[

NOAA Communications Director Ciaran Clayton, one of the officials whose communications the committee has subpoenaed, said in an e-mail:

“The notion that this paper was rushed to publication is false. In December 2014, the co-authors of the study submitted their findings to Science — a leading scientific journal. Following a rigorous peer review process, which included two rounds of revisions to ensure the credibility of the data and methodologies used, Science informed the authors that the paper would be published in June.

“The notion that NOAA is ‘hiding something’ is also false. We have been transparent and cooperative with the House Science Committee to help them better understand the research and underlying methodologies. … We stand behind our scientists who conduct their work in an objective manner.”

An aide to the Science Committee told The Post that the committee “has been in continual contact with whistleblowers for some time and received new information as recently as yesterday.”


Lisa Rein covers the federal workforce and issues that concern the management of government.

 

[MissCroft]

I thought I was high-strung. (not directed at anyone in particular)

 

[PornAddict]

I thought I was high-strung. (not directed at anyone in particular)

It a passionated arguments which both side ( climate alarmist or climate warmier denier) felt that they are corrected... I strongly feel that by 2030 ( very few or hardly any sunspot / solar activity have stopped on the sun ) that when the mini-ice age the global warming theory will be debunked! That will be my proof Observation of sunspot have been-recorded in the galieo time. ! Climate changed is part of the natural cycle of the Earth. Earth go through a warm and cool phase and it been shown on a geology time scale ! It been shown that Earth go through ice age when measured in 100,000 of year!

The sad part is over 1 trillion dollar spent on global warming / climate changed have been wasted that money could have been better spend on health care or helping the poor! The globe warming / climate changed have been too politicalized and or became also a quasi-religion among the people who are non religious also with the environmentist too. Only one side can be corrected!

PS. Frankfooter and others ( mostly the leftwing on the political spectrum ) post their link with peer review journals saying they are corrected . Me and movie fan and others will post peer review journals with links saying we are corrected. I feel the climate alarmist scientists has become hubris on the matter of climate changed / global warming that will be their downfall!
In the end only one side can be corrected! Think of it logically if envirnomental Canada cannot predict the weather what going be like in 6 month from now how are you going to predict the weather 100 year from now?

 

[Frankfooter]

You so fucking a nutjob!!
When the globe warming is debunked totally by the year 2030 when the mini-ice age arrives.. This will prove you leftwing kooks climate scientists got it totally wrong because of hubris and plus also of job security!! Think of it logically without the globe warming theory they would be out of a job..that a fact.. Over 1 trillion dollar spend worldwide on this theory all this countries in total!
The angry by the public on scientists will be immense and the public will never ever trust climate scientist again.. On the plus side the right wing government like the conservative will be proven right and harper conservative will be trusted and hopefully the canadian public will always for conservative party.

And Omaba legency will be how much money and nasa and NAOA Wasted due to a flaw theory and due to hubris on climate !
The sad part is billions wasted and could have been spent on cancer research or helping the poor!

'you so fucking nutjob'.

Nice one.

And I really like your prediction of a mini ice age in 2030, its really quite amusing, in a pathetic kind of way.
I'm sure that the thousands of hours of research you've spent over at wattsuppwiththat or whatever its called, has given you a firm grasp of reality.
And while you're on such a dedicated and serious mission, do you mind also do some research on the sasquatch?
I'm sure its only one shelf over in the kooks section at the library.

 

[PornAddict]

'you so fucking nutjob'.

Nice one.

And I really like your prediction of a mini ice age in 2030, its really quite amusing, in a pathetic kind of way.
I'm sure that the thousands of hours of research you've spent over at wattsuppwiththat or whatever its called, has given you a firm grasp of reality.
And while you're on such a dedicated and serious mission, do you mind also do some research on the sasquatch?
I'm sure its only one shelf over in the kooks section at the library.

http://www.cdapress.com/columns/cli...8a5-6870-5b84-8aad-0be108c60e69.html?mode=jqm

Weatherman scientists predict a century of global cooling
Weather Gems
Posted Dec 23, 2013

Two German scientists, Horst-Joachin Luedecke and Carl-Otto Weiss of the European Institute for Climate and Energy, say that "two naturally occurring climate cycles will combine to lower global temperatures during the next century."

They added, "by the year 2100, temperatures on this planet will plunge to levels seen at the end of the 'Little Ice Age' in 1870."

These researchers used historical data detailing temperatures as well as cave stalagmites to show a recurring 200-year solar cycle called the DeVries Cycle.

They likewise featured into their studies a well-established 65-year Atlantic and Pacific Ocean oscillation cycle of warming that has occurred since 1870 and will soon shift to a much cooler cycle of sea-surface temperatures, in other words, more chilly 'La Ninas' and less warm 'El Ninos.'

Solar activity is one area of evidence that scientists have used for decades in predicting both global warming and global cooling. Low sunspot activity has been linked to the 'Little Ice Age' between 1350 and 1870. The recent warmer periods have been associated with much higher than normal solar activity.

But, despite the current sunspot 'maxima' phase, which has been weaker than normal, we've seen a series of very harsh winter seasons in both hemispheres in the past several years, especially in Europe and Asia.

Already this bitterly cold 2013-14 winter season, we've seen killer blizzards and minus-40 degree actual air temperatures with wind-chill factors of minus-55 degrees on Montana's Glacier National Park earlier this month. My gas and electric bill that I received this week was near $300.

Elsewhere around the planet, it was one of the coldest and snowiest winters in 200 years in parts of South America between June and August. Some weather stations in northern Argentina and Paraguay saw their first measurable snowfalls this past July in living memory. This July likewise saw the coldest temperature ever on earth in Antarctica, an incredible minus-135.8 degrees Fahrenheit.

In the past 10 days, as of this Friday, Dec. 20 writing, Cairo, Egypt saw its first measurable snowfall in more than 100 years. Its domes and minarets were coated with a rare covering of snow, a picture of winter beauty. Kids of all ages had snowball fights in the streets of Cairo with ice, rather than bullets, much more fun to say the least. Imagine seeing the Pyramids and the Sphinx covered in snow!

Syrian refugee camps in Jordan saw their flimsy shelters collapsed by the heavy snows. The snows in Jerusalem were the heaviest in 60 years, more than three feet deep in places. Hundreds were stranded in vehicles on impassable roads. Jerusalem's major, Nir Barkat, called the rare heavy snowstorm, "a snow tsunami."

What's next weatherwise in 2014 is anyone's guess.

NORTH IDAHO WEATHER REVIEW AND LONG-RANGE OUTLOOKS

I wrote this North Idaho weather review on a chilly, snow-covered Saturday morning, Dec. 21, the first official day of the winter season.

The temperatures was a frigid 24 degrees at my station on Player Drive at 10 a.m. More than three inches of powdery snow blanketed the landscape, a last minute gift from the departing mostly rainy fall season of 2013. Kevin Cooper had to plow my driveway for the first time this season.

The $64,000 question remains, will we still have at least an inch of snow left on the ground on Dec. 25 to quality for a WHITE CHRISTMAS? At the time of this writing, the chances were between 55 and 60 percent for the city of Coeur d'Alene and near 85 percent for areas north and east of us above 3,000 feet. Remember, I've frequently preached the 'gospel of elevation' for the past couple of months. If you're 'too low,' you get 'less snow,' pure and simple.

After a brief warmup early in the week, I see colder temperatures returning by Christmas Eve and Christmas Day along with a slight chance of more snow flurries. What bothered me this Saturday morning was the rainstorm on Monday that could "wash it all away." This is the typical 'La Nada' sea-surface winter pattern, extremes in both temperature and precipitation.

Longer-term, I still believe that the next six weeks into early February will feature slightly cooler and snowier weather conditions than normal across North Idaho and the rest of the Inland Empire. I also see the possibility of an early spring arrival this late February or March. Once again, only time will tell.

Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS, folks, weather or not.

Cliff Harris is a climatologist who writes a weekly column for The Press. His opinions are his own. Email sfharris@roadrunner.com

 

[PornAddict]

'you so fucking nutjob'.

Nice one.

And I really like your prediction of a mini ice age in 2030, its really quite amusing, in a pathetic kind of way.
I'm sure that the thousands of hours of research you've spent over at wattsuppwiththat or whatever its called, has given you a firm grasp of reality.
And while you're on such a dedicated and serious mission, do you mind also do some research on the sasquatch?
I'm sure its only one shelf over in the kooks section at the library.

A peer review paper that been published by a well respected. Solar Scientist !

A 'mini ice age' is coming in the next 15 year

http://www.sciencealert.com/a-mini-ice-age-is-coming-in-the-next-15-years
Solar activity is predicted to drop by 60 percent in 2030.
BEC CREW 13 JUL 2015


A new model that predicts the solar cycles more accurately than ever before has suggested that solar magnetic activity will drop by 60 percent between 2030 and 2040, which means in just 15 years’ time, Earth could sink into what researchers are calling a mini ice age.

Such low solar activity has not been seen since the last mini ice age, called the Maunder Minimum, which plunged the northern hemisphere in particular into a series of bitterly cold winters between 1645 and 1715.


The prediction is based on what’s known as the Sun’s '11-year heartbeat'. The Sun’s magnetic activity is not the same year in year out, it fluctuates over a cycle that lasts between 10 and 12 years. Ever since this was discovered 172 years ago, scientists have struggled to predict what each cycle will look like.

But just last week at the National Astronomy Meeting in Wales, mathematics professor Valentina Zharkova from Northumbria University in the UK has presented a new model that can forecast what these solar cycles will look like based on the dynamo effects at play in two layers of the Sun. Zharkova says she can predict their influence with an accuracy of 97 percent.

What exactly are these so-called dynamo effects? They’re part of a geophysical theory that explains how the motion of Earth’s outer core moves conducting material, such as liquid iron, across a weak magnetic field to create an electric current. This electric current also interacts with the fluid motion below the surface of Earth to create two magnetic fields along the axis of its rotation.

When Zharkova’s model applied this theory to the Sun, it drew its predictions assuming that there are dynamo effects in two subterranean layers - one deep down in the convection zone, and another up near the surface, each fluctuating between the northern and southern hemispheres.

Zharkova explained her findings at the conference:

"We found magnetic wave components appearing in pairs, originating in two different layers in the Sun's interior. They both have a frequency of approximately 11 years, although this frequency is slightly different, and they are offset in time. Combining both waves together and comparing to real data for the current solar cycle, we found that our predictions showed an accuracy of 97 percent."

Looking at these magnetic wave patterns, the model predicted that there would be few sunspots over the next two 11-year heartbeats - called Cycle 25, which peaks in 2022, and Cycle 26, which runs from 2030 to 2040.

"In Cycle 26, the two waves exactly mirror each other - peaking at the same time but in opposite hemispheres of the Sun. Their interaction will be disruptive, or they will nearly cancel each other. We predict that this will lead to the properties of a 'Maunder minimum'," said Zharkova.

During the original Maunder Minimum, the entire River Thames froze over in England. So I guess time to get your skates ready?

 

[Frankfooter]

A peer review paper that been published by a well respected. Solar Scientist !

A 'mini ice age' is coming in the next 15 year

http://www.sciencealert.com/a-mini-ice-age-is-coming-in-the-next-15-years
Solar activity is predicted to drop by 60 percent in 2030.
BEC CREW 13 JUL 2015

Except that's not what the researcher predicted, its some blown out of proportion article.
You do fall for those types of articles easily, don't you?
Do you ever check to see if they could be total nonsense before you post them?

 

[Moviefan-2]

You must agree, since you have no problem with the numbers.

Let's return to the point I was actually making.

Prior to the adjustment, there wasn't a single month in 2015 that was a record breaker, according to NASA.

I assume you have accepted that the numbers are accurate and will concede that I am correct. More importantly, you will concede that your claim about NASA's numbers for March 2015 was wrong.

 

[Moviefan-2]

Let's review the history of Frankfooter's responses to my statement that NASA's records show there wasn't a single record-breaking month in 2015, prior to the adjustment.

Here is the original quote.

Indeed.

Prior to the rather controversial adjustment of the data, NASA's records show their wasn't a single month in 2015 that was a record breaker:

http://bit.ly/1O6YPsX

In fact, most months weren't even close to the record.

Here are a number of his responses:

I see, you are one of those conspiracy wingnuts who think that every climatologist in the world is on a big conspiracy to make Al Gore rich, or something like that.
And you fall for the conspiracy talk really easily, now you're posting some screen grab that cuts off the important info at the top, which would state where and when the data comes from.
You are so easy to fool, aren't you?

This conspiracy thread business, that NASA, NOAA, the IPCC and all scientists all over the world, except for a plucky band financed by oil tycoons, is pure bunk.

Your kooky ideas are probably less popular then the 9/11 truthers.

That's just more of your wacko, 9/11 truther type, conspiracy talk.

Ok, I know you conspiracy types love your ridiculous claims.

First, provide evidence, legit evidence that NASA changed their measurements.
Next, tell us what date that change happened on.

You are trying to backpedal and change what you claimed retroactively.

You really should start looking at other sites then wattsupwiththat, it just leads you to post really embarrassing claims.
March 2015 was reported as the warmest March on record at the time, pre-'adjustment' in this continuing thread in which you embarrass yourself daily.

And after I did your research for you I found that once again your claims are ridiculous.

You claim they did it to fudge the numbers, that's the conspiracy part of the claim.
Or are you backing down on this claim that there were no record temperatures in 2015 until they 'adjusted' the numbers?

This is all your wingnut business, I'm just trying to clarify how kooky todays claims are.

Do you think that NASA adjusted their numbers honestly, as an upgrade in their methodology, or for some devious, conspiracy theory plan to hoodwink us all?

So what is your problem with the numbers, are you claiming that there is something dishonest in the changes?

Quite a list.

In response to my statement that NASA's numbers show there wasn't a single record-breaking month this year before the adjustments, Frankfooter said:

-- I was a conspiracy nut.
-- My facts were wrong.
-- My facts had somehow been faked.
-- I was backpedalling on my statement.
-- Etc.

I stand by my statement -- and the numbers confirm that I was right: https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-HottestYear&p=5405287&viewfull=1#post5405287

The data clearly show that NASA hadn't recorded a single month in 2015 that was a record-breaking month, prior to the adjustments.

http://www.reportingclimatescience....nasa-may-2015-ties-as-second-warmest-may.html

Now, after two days' worth of claims that I'm a conspiracy nut and have the wrong facts, etc., Frankfooter is trying to change the subject -- and refusing to admit he has been completely wrong.

He is a total loon.

 

[Frankfooter]

Let's return to the point I was actually making.

Prior to the adjustment, there wasn't a single month in 2015 that was a record breaker, according to NASA.

I assume you have accepted that the numbers are accurate and will concede that I am correct. More importantly, you will concede that your claim about NASA's numbers for March 2015 was wrong.

So what is the point you are making?
That you are whining because they adjusted their methods?

I do agree the posted recent NASA numbers, which agree with the NOAA findings, are accurate.
Just stop whining.

2015 is the warmest year on record and you are on track to lose the bet.
Just accept it.

 

[Frankfooter]

Let's review the history of Frankfooter's responses to my statement that NASA's records show there wasn't a single record-breaking month in 2015, prior to the adjustment.

In response to my statement that NASA's numbers show there wasn't a single record-breaking month this year before the adjustments, Frankfooter said:

-- I was a conspiracy nut.
-- My facts were wrong.
-- My facts had somehow been faked.
-- I was backpedalling on my statement.
-- Etc.

Lets review your claims:
1) that climatologists in over 100 countries are conspiring to fake reports
2) you repeatedly claim that the IPCC is 'spectacularly wrong', even in the face of our bet, in which the IPCC projection is off by 0.01ºC.
3) you have repeatedly posted claims about studies that were in direct contradiction to the results posted by their authors
4) you seem to think that NASA is up to no good when they upgrade their work
5) etc


Answer the question, do you accept that the latest published numbers by NASA are legit?

 

[PornAddict]

Except that's not what the researcher predicted, its some blown out of proportion article.
You do fall for those types of articles easily, don't you?
Do you ever check to see if they could be total nonsense before you post them?

This not only an article but a peer researched paper published in a well respected journal!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150709092955.htm

i guess you like to makup things when it do go your way!

This peer review researhed proofrd you wrong..maybe you should practiced what you preached ! wHy dont you read the journal first!!

Solar activity predicted to fall 60% in 2030s, to 'mini ice age' levels: Sun driven by double dynamo
Date:
July 9, 2015
Source:
Royal Astronomical Society (RAS)
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A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645.
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Montage of images of solar activity between August 1991 and September 2001.
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A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645.

Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.

It is 172 years since a scientist first spotted that the Sun's activity varies over a cycle lasting around 10 to 12 years. But every cycle is a little different and none of the models of causes to date have fully explained fluctuations. Many solar physicists have put the cause of the solar cycle down to a dynamo caused by convecting fluid deep within the Sun. Now, Zharkova and her colleagues have found that adding a second dynamo, close to the surface, completes the picture with surprising accuracy.

"We found magnetic wave components appearing in pairs, originating in two different layers in the Sun's interior. They both have a frequency of approximately 11 years, although this frequency is slightly different, and they are offset in time. Over the cycle, the waves fluctuate between the northern and southern hemispheres of the Sun. Combining both waves together and comparing to real data for the current solar cycle, we found that our predictions showed an accuracy of 97%," said Zharkova.

Zharkova and her colleagues derived their model using a technique called 'principal component analysis' of the magnetic field observations from the Wilcox Solar Observatory in California. They examined three solar cycles-worth of magnetic field activity, covering the period from 1976-2008. In addition, they compared their predictions to average sunspot numbers, another strong marker of solar activity. All the predictions and observations were closely matched.

Looking ahead to the next solar cycles, the model predicts that the pair of waves become increasingly offset during Cycle 25, which peaks in 2022. During Cycle 26, which covers the decade from 2030-2040, the two waves will become exactly out of synch and this will cause a significant reduction in solar activity.

"In cycle 26, the two waves exactly mirror each other -- peaking at the same time but in opposite hemispheres of the Sun. Their interaction will be disruptive, or they will nearly cancel each other. We predict that this will lead to the properties of a 'Maunder minimum'," said Zharkova. "Effectively, when the waves are approximately in phase, they can show strong interaction, or resonance, and we have strong solar activity. When they are out of phase, we have solar minimums. When there is full phase separation, we have the conditions last seen during the Maunder minimum, 370 years ago."

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[Frankfooter]

This not only an article but a peer researched paper published in a well respected journal!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150709092955.htm

i guess you like to makup things when it do go your way!
.

Dude, its a study on possible magnetic patterns in the sun.
Good luck on predicting those accurately.

And then, figure out exactly how much influence solar activity has on the climate, its not as much as CO2.

And as the author stated:

We didn't mention anything about the weather change,

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/mini-ice-age-not-reason-ignore-global-warming

Much ado about nothing.

 

[Moviefan-2]

2015 is the warmest year on record and you are on track to lose the bet.

Little coward, you must suffer from short-term memory issues.

This has been explained to you many times -- there won't be any discussion of the numbers until you agree to settle. I don't want to waste my time on this until it is time for me to collect.

Really, who could blame me?

You spent more than two days challenging my statement about NASA's pre-adjustment numbers. And now that it is impossible for you to deny that I was right, you make pathetic attempts to try to change the subject (such as your question below).

Sorry, Mr. Basement Dweller -- until you work up the courage to settle, we won't be reviewing the numbers in the bet.

Cluck, cluck, cluck.

Answer the question, do you accept that the latest published numbers by NASA are legit?

That question has nothing whatsoever to do with the statement I posted. It is a pathetic attempt to change the subject.

Frankfooter is a complete nutjob.

 

[Frankfooter]

That question has nothing whatsoever to do with the statement I posted. It is a pathetic attempt to change the subject.

Then I have to assume that you recognize that the recent NASA numbers are correct and that all you are doing is whining that you are going to lose the bet.

Just read the news, boy.

Just how hot are we getting? Take a look at this impressive list of global all-time-hottest-ever-recorded records that have fallen in just the last twelve months:

Hottest calendar year ever recorded
Hottest 12 month period ever recorded
Hottest December ever recorded
Hottest February
Hottest March
Hottest May
Hottest June
Hottest July
Hottest August
Hottest September
Hottest October
Hottest Northern Hemisphere
Hottest Southern Hemisphere
Hottest global ocean temperatures
Hottest global land temperatures

http://www.nationalobserver.com/201...at-records-falling-dominoes-world-heads-paris

Now that we fully agree that the latest NASA numbers are correct and agree with NOAA's, of course.

 

[bishop]

misposted

 

[Moviefan-2]

...all you are doing is whining that you are going to lose the bet.

Little coward, it almost looks like you're starting to develop a spine.

But you know the rules. If you want to discuss the numbers, you have to muster up the courage to agree to settle.

Put up or shut up.

Cluck, cluck, cluck.

 

[Frankfooter]

Little coward, it almost looks like you're starting to develop a spine.

But you know the rules. If you want to discuss the numbers, you have to muster up the courage to agree to settle.

Put up or shut up.

Cluck, cluck, cluck.

More nonsense.

The only rule for our bet is that it comes to term when NASA publishes their global average temperature anomaly for 2015.

All this whining about NASA's numbers and your constant attempts to weasel out of the bet by settling early while the numbers were still barely in your favour are just that.
Whining.

And we will continue to discuss how spectacularly wrong you are with every monthly update, now with only 2 more months left.