1. Calling it a war started by the Arab nations is dishonest. Typical of you, just more lies and spam.
2. Israel has refused to allow half of the refugees they created back to their homes.
Revealed: How the five wealthiest Gulf Nations have so far refused to take a refugee
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2. Israel has refused to allow half of the refugees they created back to their homes.
It is a historical fact, whether you like it or not, that Arab nations invaded Israel in 1948 in an illegal war of aggression with the expressly stated purpose of destroying the Jewish state and expelling the Jews.1. Calling it a war started by the Arab nations is dishonest. Typical of you, just more lies and spam.
2. Israel has refused to allow half of the refugees they created back to their homes.
And Israel has accepted over 800,000 refugees from the conflict, Jews who fled the ethnic cleansing carried out by the Arab side. That is roughly half the refugees, the other half being the Palestinians.
The Arab aggressors who started the war and are to blame for the refugees need to step up.
No. Either you or your online sources are lying though if they claim that applies to the majority.So is Rabin lying when he wrote in his memories that Ben Gurion ordered to deport them and that he used shotguns to force them to march?
There were some villages that attacked Jewish villages that were forcibly cleared. According to groggy's posting in the past, that amounted to less than 2% of those who fled. The vast majority left due to fear. Another small number left because their local leaders told them to. And to be equitable in historical treatment, there were also Jewish villages that were forcibly cleared by Arab fighters or the Jordanian army.
More accurately created by the Arab states who launched the war.So why do you expect countries like Germany and Sweden to solve a refugee problem created by Israel?
What idiocy. Israel committed an ethnic cleansing but they forgot about a quarter of the Arabs in their borders?Sure they did.
Israel tried to ethnically cleanse Palestine to take it over.
Just as they are trying to do now slowly through settlements.
The only ethnic cleansing was by Arab forces in the war. Jordan, Syria, and Egypt cleansed every single Jews from territory they conquered but Israel left every Arab willing to be Israeli in peace.
Actually by your own example, Israel has much more in common with India. India has a significant Muslim minority. Israel has a significant Muslim minority. Pakistan has a very small Hindu community as most were chased out. Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan, and the PA have zero (or next to it) Jews as most were chased out.Thank you for confirming that Israel is a racist state like Pakistan that was created by ethnic cleansing of Hindus and non Muslims like Israel was created by ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. There are more muslims living in India than Pakistan and they enjoy more rights and freedoms in a secular and multi-ethnic democracy than in Pakistan. Israel has much more in common with Pakistan than India
1. Why is it dishonest to say that the Arab war was the fault of the Arabs?1. Calling it a war started by the Arab nations is dishonest. Typical of you, just more lies and spam.
2. Israel has refused to allow half of the refugees they created back to their homes.
The Jewish leadership of British Palestine agreed to the Partition and the borders. If the Arab leaders okayed it, there would be a Palestinian state for the past 70 years. No Arab refusal, no Arab invasion, no refugees.
2. Israel already accepted 800,000 refugees from Arab lands, more than the number of Arabs who fled Israel.
3. Israel has no duty to allow a 'return' to anyone. They are obligated to a 'just solution' when a peace deal is signed.
Is that 800,000 more than what the Gulf States have accepted? If yes, why are some folks bitching about Israel?Israel already accepted 800,000 refugees from Arab lands,
Those were Jewish refugees from Arab lands so of course it made sense for Israel to endure massive economic hardship to accept them.Is that 800,000 more than what the Gulf States have accepted? If yes, why are some folks bitching about Israel?
On the other hand, it is stupid for Arab Muslim states to accept Arab Muslim refugees despite the ridiculous wealth they have.
Get it?
Both sides share some blame.1. Why is it dishonest to say that the Arab war was the fault of the Arabs?
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There were skirmishes and 'terrorism' on both sides before, during and after.
Blaming one side only is just more fuji style lying and spamming.
Wrong. The Jewish side accepted the partition plan. The day after the UN vote the Palestinians began large scale widespread attacks on Jews. Not skirmishes. Not minor terrorism. All out war.Both sides share some blame.
There were skirmishes and 'terrorism' on both sides before, during and after.
Blaming one side only is just more fuji style lying and spamming.
Then without any provocation from Israel the surrounding Arab nations invaded Israel with the express war aim of stealing the territory the UN allotted to Israel and with the express goal of expelling the Jews.
That is the historical fact.
The Jews fought a purely defensive war for months, concentrating on defending their villages from Arab raids and sieges, and escorting supply convoys between their towns.
During this time the widespread expectation was that the Jews would lose and be "driven into the sea". And they were losing. The Arabs razed village after village, killing everyone, driving them out. The Jewish position was collapsing.
Only after months of losing the war against the attacking Arabs did the Jews do what you consider a "catastrophe": they finally went on the offensive and executed Plan D. That strategy proved effective and ultimately won the civil war, at which point the Arab nations invaded to reverse the Palestinian defeat.
There is no historical doubt that the Palestinians started the civil war, and no historical doubt that the Arab nations invaded.
The Arabs rejected the existence of Israel and started that war to annihilate it. They lost, but then tried again several more times, launching multiple wars to try and annihilate Israel.
More spam and lies.Wrong. The Jewish side accepted the partition plan. The day after the UN vote the Palestinians began large scale widespread attacks on Jews. Not skirmishes. Not minor terrorism. All out war.
Both sides were to blame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab–Israeli_War
Yes, you already said you think Israel is to blame for existing.Both sides share some blame.....
Funny thing is despite all your claims of blaming both side, you seem loathe to blame anything on Arabs or Palestinians. This thread is a great example where instead of criticizing the Arab states for abandoning fellow Arabs you shifted the topic to Israel.
And you think any of that refutes what fuji said in that quote? Shit you are desperate.
Sadly for those uninterested in actual facts, the Israeli was not populated with refugees from WWII. Half of Israeli society is descended from Jews who were in Arab states before Zionism, Jews have been the largest group in Jerusalem at the turn of the last century, and Jews were a clear majority in the land on their area of the partition.Right, Germans should also accept a partition plan with those Syrian refugees
From at least 1919, there were organized attacks on Jews because they were Jews and the targets of those early attacks were not Jews brought there by zionism but rather Jews who had been there for centuries. There is no denying that if the Arab states accepted the partition and were willing to live in peace with Israel there would be a Palestinian state instead of refugees.
No wonder Jews are wary of Arabs.From at least 1919, there were organized attacks on Jews because they were Jews and the targets of those early attacks were not Jews brought there by zionism but rather Jews who had been there for centuries.
Nope. You are trying to lie your way past the HISTORICAL FACT that the Jews accepted the partition plan. The civil war began the day after the UN vote when Palestinians attacked. The Arab nations then invaded because the Palestinian militias were losing.
You really are a pathological liar trying to rewrite history.
They also announced that they didn't accept the partition plan borders and felt that they were free to take as much land as they could take.Nope. You are trying to lie your way past the HISTORICAL FACT that the Jews accepted the partition plan. The civil war began the day after the UN vote when Palestinians attacked. The Arab nations then invaded because the Palestinian militias were losing.
You really are a pathological liar trying to rewrite history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Declaration_of_IndependenceOn the border issue, the original draft had declared that the borders would be that decided by the UN partition plan. While this was supported by Rosen and Bechor-Shalom Sheetrit, it was opposed by Ben-Gurion and Zisling, with Ben-Gurion stating, "We accepted the UN Resolution, but the Arabs did not. They are preparing to make war on us. If we defeat them and capture western Galilee or territory on both sides of the road to Jerusalem, these areas will become part of the state. Why should we obligate ourselves to accept boundaries that in any case the Arabs don't accept?"[9] The inclusion of the designation of borders in the text was dropped after the provisional government of Israel, the Minhelet HaAm, voted 5–4 against it.[10] The Revisionists, committed to a Jewish state on both sides of the Jordan River (that is, including Transjordan), wanted the phrase "within its historic borders" included but were unsuccessful.
That's not accepting the UN plan, the UN plan had specific borders.
Both sides are to blame.That is winning the war that the Arabs started on 30 November 1947.
Twit.
But what else would I expect from you, there isn't a single act of depravity committed by Israel that you don't support.
Like shelling kids on a beach in Gaza.
You still back that one, right?
