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AK-47

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Don't do this and put your email in these kind of things since they could be a bait tactic to obtain your email
Yes, I agree. I put in a bunch of fake email addys with long characters so it wouldnt be a duplicate of somebody elses real email acct, and they all came back negative.

Email I tried was JoeBlow19654567320768@live.com and a bunch of variants thereof. None matched
 

GameBoy27

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Considering the list of names was illegally obtained and distributed by an anonymous source and can't be verified, do you think mainstream media has the right to start reporting names?
 

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Considering the list of names was illegally obtained and distributed by an anonymous source and can't be verified, do you think mainstream media has the right to start reporting names?
Good question are they breaking the law by contributing to this and can they be sued??? Not that I have anything to worry about ...:fear:
 

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I don't think most people sign up for AM with real names and email addresses anyways. It's the CC information that's the issue, and that's happened before. Not good, but not the Worst Thing Ever.
The CC information includes your real information so if you signed up as "Ottawa Super Stud" and gave your credit card they know from the credit card that "Ottawa Super Stud" is actually Peter MacKay, etc.
 

GPIDEAL

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Sorry AK, but I disagree here. They would get your IPs and informatuon on each time you decided to log in and when. Then all somebody has to do is search your IP on the web and there you go you get a file stating each time your IP has accessed terb and details.

Maybe Fred has a way to delete the IP history to keep us safe, but this would be a privacy issue if leaked.
IP addresses do not have your name on them, unless it relates to a personal web page or email address with your name in it.

Only your ISP can link your unidentifiable IP address to your name (a bone fide legal investigation or court order could force your ISP to give up your personal I.D. for a given IP address).
 

GPIDEAL

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The CC information includes your real information so if you signed up as "Ottawa Super Stud" and gave your credit card they know from the credit card that "Ottawa Super Stud" is actually Peter MacKay, etc.
Lol.
 

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No way. If your wife or SO knows your IP, Simple copy and paste to a find function and there you go it gives you everything to that IP.

Now say you use a web site where you use your IP with your real name such as ordering a products from sites like newegg or goinggear. Ect...now somebody hacks these sites, has your IP to your real name and bam bam bam blasts your name and privacy to shit, particularly if you are somebody like Peter Fing Mackay...not that I have anything to worry about :fear:

IP addresses do not have your name on them, unless it relates to a personal web page or email address with your name in it.

Only your ISP can link your unidentifiable IP address to your name (a bone fide legal investigation or court order could force your ISP to give up your personal I.D. for a given IP address).
 

geeky

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I hope this is obvious to people- but a word of caution: If you download the torrent you are in possession of stolen personal data. That is a crime. And a pretty serious one.

If you are curious if you, or someone you know is on the list you are much better off using one of the websites (I'm sure a BUNCH more will be coming) to check vs. downloading the data yourself.
 

GPIDEAL

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No way. If your wife or SO knows your IP, Simple copy and paste to a find function and there you go it gives you everything to that IP.

Now say you use a web site where you use your IP with your real name such as ordering a products from sites like newegg or goinggear. Ect...now somebody hacks these sites, has your IP to your real name and bam bam bam blasts your name and privacy to shit, particularly if you are somebody like Peter Fing Mackay...not that I have anything to worry about :fear:

Yes, BUT as I said, ONLY if your I.P. address is associated with a personal web page or email address that has your real name in its description.

Eg. Our Terb handles are associated with an I.P. address but that won't reveal your real name. To uncover your name, it would have to be matched to the internal records of your ISP who record your I.P. address for billing and legal reasons. One would need a court order to uncover that, unless a hacker hacked your ISP's billing or customer database.
 

GPIDEAL

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I hope this is obvious to people- but a word of caution: If you download the torrent you are in possession of stolen personal data. That is a crime. And a pretty serious one.

If you are curious if you, or someone you know is on the list you are much better off using one of the websites (I'm sure a BUNCH more will be coming) to check vs. downloading the data yourself.
Why is downloading different than viewing a website? How could that website post those records without breaking the law itself?
 

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Yes, BUT as I said, ONLY if your I.P. address is associated with a personal web page or email address that has your real name in its description.

Eg. Our Terb handles are associated with an I.P. address but that won't reveal your real name. To uncover your name, it would have to be matched to the internal records of your ISP who record your I.P. address for billing and legal reasons. One would need a court order to uncover that, unless a hacker hacked your ISP's billing or customer database.
How about emails, isn't there a way to tell the IP a person used to send an email. I would always air on the side of caution if you need to hide this hobby life for personal reasons....I consider IP like a home address linking you to your online activity... Call me paranoid, but its not worth the damage it can cause particularly if you generally are living an honest life with a little hobby on the side for spiritual healing.
 

geeky

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Why is downloading different than viewing a website? How could that website post those records without breaking the law itself?
My understanding is the websites just confirm if the user exists or not - it doesnt' report back the full details that were dug up.

Its also a matter of scope. Even if you do view full data for the one user you look up - that is relatively minor and the data is downloaded to a temporary browser cache that will likely be purged (or immediately purged if you use private browsing). On the other hand, downloading the torrent means you are putting all 36 million users on your hard drive.

As for how the websites can provide this service without breaking the law? 1) they are offshore with different laws, or 2) they are breaking the law and are potentially opening themselves up to prosecution.
 

AK-47

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I hope this is obvious to people- but a word of caution: If you download the torrent you are in possession of stolen personal data. That is a crime. And a pretty serious one
Technically you are right, but unless you plan on using hacked information (like credit cards) for personal gain its unlikely cops will come after you.

Cops never came after downloaders of the Fappening or Climategate either
 

GPIDEAL

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How about emails, isn't there a way to tell the IP a person used to send an email. I would always air on the side of caution if you need to hide this hobby life for personal reasons....I consider IP like a home address linking you to your online activity... Call me paranoid, but its not worth the damage it can cause particularly if you generally are living an honest life with a little hobby on the side for spiritual healing.
An email address using your real name that is linked to an I.P. address is easy prey too.

Some email addresses that do NOT include your real name in the body of the address, can reveal your identity if you have DESCRIBED said email with your real name, then it can as well.

Eg. Username in Outlook or Hotmail that has your first and last name, can be linked to an unidentifiable address such as "Stud@hotmail.com", which has an I.P. address.


Ask AK-47 if his downloaded database includes I.P. addresses?
 

geeky

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I agree that prosecution is unlikely, but there is a big difference between looking at pictures of naked celebrities, and downloading a 10 gig data dump of some of the most damaging information you can get on people. If they do decide to go after people that downloaded it - and it would be relatively easy to do so... there are only a couple of trackers for the legit data dump right now - the consequences could be severe.

However, I am all about personal choice -if you want to do it, I'm not going to stop you... just figured someone needed to be the guy to point it out.
 

GPIDEAL

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My understanding is the websites just confirm if the user exists or not - it doesnt' report back the full details that were dug up.

Its also a matter of scope. Even if you do view full data for the one user you look up - that is relatively minor and the data is downloaded to a temporary browser cache that will likely be purged (or immediately purged if you use private browsing). On the other hand, downloading the torrent means you are putting all 36 million users on your hard drive.

As for how the websites can provide this service without breaking the law? 1) they are offshore with different laws, or 2) they are breaking the law and are potentially opening themselves up to prosecution.

You are a scholar besides geeky. Thank you.
 

GPIDEAL

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There's a website where you can enter your (or any) email address and it will tell you if that email is registered with the site.

ashley dot cynic dot al

Hopefully none if you us are on there. The while thing was a fucking scam anyway.
Some people register and don't even use the service, or never 'benefited' from it. It may cause some strife between couples.
 

roger20

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Just downloaded the whole thing. Its IMO useless because its a bunch of massive .asc files, and I have no clue how to open it.

I'm pretty sure housewives wont know either
The .asc files are just the signed version of the file to ensure that you got it from the right place as there's a bunch of different versions of the files online. The credit card information, emails, phone numbers etc... are in daily CSV files (comma seperate value file which is viewable in text or easier in a spreadsheet) from March 21, 2008 up to June 28, 2015 and that's what people are using to search. The other files are member logins which contains chat logs and stuff but that's in a mysql (database) dump.

BTW, IP addresses aren't linked to people, they're linked to companies who own (lease?) blocks from ARIN or another body. You might get issued the same IP each time sure, but only your ISP knows who's on the other end of it. When the cops hunt down a CP ring or whatever, they need to go to the ISP with a warrant, they just don't plug the IP from a blog into some database and figure out who you are!
 

roger20

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A simple case of Buyer Beware again ..... "Nothing is EVER FREE in this world."

Has it dawned on anybody that downloading or previewing any of the ill gotten AM info may open yourself and others up to a wider hacking conspiracy.
There maybe a program within the program to operate at a later date. You may have contracted a virus worse than herpes simplex.
It's text files, you can't contract viruses from that! The link you posted below is referring to the torrent client that you installed, not the stuff you're downloading using it.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/212351-your-torrent-client-could-help-hackers-hijack-your-computer

In this day and age, hackers are hacking hackers .... and the game is played like chess on the world map.
Whether the hackers are working for sovereign governments, corporations, Anonymous, or thrill seekers and spy agents .... the chess game gets bigger and the potential for catastrophic calamity increases exponentially worldwide.
The next great war will be fought and won by computers.
The beast already has your number. You just don't realize it yet.
You can bet your life on that. :p
On goes the tinfoil hat then?
 
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