Motivational speakers.

[TESLAMotors]

Does it seem there are tons of motivational speakers out there today?
I was watching some Ted Talks on a couple of topics and then it seemed like there were a huge ton of motivational speakers.
Seems like everyone is one and wants to be one, give great advice (advice they probably don't take).

Reminds me of an article I read about a psychiatrist, David Viscott, had shows on TV and radio, heard him a few times in the mid-90s.
His style was simple but right in your face and excellent. However, he ended up getting a divorce and I wondered if he followed his own advice ever on certain life aspects.
But TedTalk speakers are popping from everywhere with their life views and they just seem tacky.

Love the science, historical, educational aspects of TED, but the "life" stuff, is getting overly saturated and bloated.

 

[Yoga Face]

It all started with Zig Ziglar and his ilk


A quick way to make big bucks is a speaker at conventions

Even more if you can sell books and have your own seminars

Tony Robbins is the king (even though he says he is not a motivational speaker but that is part of his act )

Anybody can call themselves a guru, just write a book then you become an expert

Dwayne Dwyer is full of shit and so is Depak Chopra if you listen scientifically to what they say.

Robbins charges 74 grand for the privilege of attended any of his seminars for a year around the world but you have to fly there and pay for the hotel room he is speaking at

Ted Talk cheapens itself with these charlatans

Robbins Ted Talk has Gore in the front row and Tony tells him he lost the election because of uncertainty

What a load of abstract crap and Gore actually listens along with larry king and Oprah

Nobody ever challenges his credentials, where his wisdom comes from or the results of his therapy:frusty:

Sad

 

[Chloë.]

I think once you weed out the bullshit, Ted Talks has some pretty decent content.

Same idea goes for motivational speakers.

It's just unfortunate how heavily saturated with fluff Ted's gotten.

 

[explorerzip]

It's easier to call yourself a motivational speaker or coach than to get a job a Timmies. Those that can't do teach and they try to sell you seminars, books and tapes. The sad thing is, there are gullible people out there that get on the treadmill of buying that junk and never take action on what little they might have learned.

 

[SkyRider]

It's easier to call yourself a motivational speaker or coach than to get a job a Timmies.

Anybody here need a "life coach" (for a nominal fee) to get through this life or are you going to do it on your own?
http://www.coachingbreakthroughs.ca/

 

[explorerzip]

Anybody here need a "life coach" (for a nominal fee) to get through this life or are you going to do it on your own?
http://www.coachingbreakthroughs.ca/

You must be getting a nice affiliate kickback?

 

[kherg007]

The key is what underpins the assertions in TED talks. Science, systematically collected evidence? Or anecdotes about various people? Are the concepts fuzzy - like 'fulfillment" or "vitality"......those are your first decision rules in how much to weigh a TED talk.

 

[NHFL]

You know what, I am totally against all self-help gurus, coaching and bloated Ted talks as many have said.

Having said that, a poster above mentioned Zig Ziglar. At one time I was interning at an organization during university where I had to answer the phones on occasion. The organization, which was small, hired Zig Ziglar to motivate them. One night I was stuck answering the phones and Zig called through.

What I remember was that even though I was only the "phone guy", when I mentioned my name during my greeting, he stopped, said "How are you today ******", and actually took about 3-4 minutes to talk with me before he asked for the VP with whom he wished to speak. At no time did he mention his own name or try to talk about anything other than me. After a few minutes he said "I'd like to speak with Mr. xxxxxxx. It's Zig Ziglar."

I had little idea who he was at the time, except his very odd name. I remember the conversation not so much because of who he was but because out of all the calls I have ever answered as a "receptionist" (and if you are going to work your way up in an office environment, chances are you will wind up doing this at some point in your life), he just chatted with me, and focused on me. A truly memorable experience! It actually gives me pause for thought to reconsider what some of these gurus say about living life if I remember a simple phone call almost 20 years later.

 

[IM469]

I wonder if they do morning wakeup calls ... I sure could use motivation to get out of bed and head for work.

 

[highpark]

I've been around a lot of years. I know some kick ass people who get things done and some duds who couldn't do shit with a million dollars and an eternity. I think if u reslly need a motivational speaker than you're not motivated and no one can ever get u motivated. Now.... A coach on the other hand who can show u the mechanics of a certain business or industry is worth his weight in gold. I always listen to a good coach or someone with experience and success. But fuck...... If u need someone to motivate you.....you're fucked.

 

[Yoga Face]

You know what, I am totally against all self-help gurus, coaching and bloated Ted talks as many have said.

Having said that, a poster above mentioned Zig Ziglar. At one time I was interning at an organization during university where I had to answer the phones on occasion. The organization, which was small, hired Zig Ziglar to motivate them. One night I was stuck answering the phones and Zig called through.

What I remember was that even though I was only the "phone guy", when I mentioned my name during my greeting, he stopped, said "How are you today ******", and actually took about 3-4 minutes to talk with me before he asked for the VP with whom he wished to speak. At no time did he mention his own name or try to talk about anything other than me. After a few minutes he said "I'd like to speak with Mr. xxxxxxx. It's Zig Ziglar."

I had little idea who he was at the time, except his very odd name. I remember the conversation not so much because of who he was but because out of all the calls I have ever answered as a "receptionist" (and if you are going to work your way up in an office environment, chances are you will wind up doing this at some point in your life), he just chatted with me, and focused on me. A truly memorable experience! It actually gives me pause for thought to reconsider what some of these gurus say about living life if I remember a simple phone call almost 20 years later.

interesting

I suspect a lot of these gurus believe they have the calling and are not frauds just delusional

like fundamentalists preachers

that is the only explanation I can come up with as I have listened to Ziglars tapes along with Robbins and Dwyer and Chopra and they are full of made up shit esp Chopra as I saw a debate with him and some physicists and did the ever tear him a new one

 

[TESLAMotors]

interesting

I suspect a lot of these gurus believe they have the calling and are not frauds just delusional

like fundamentalists preachers

that is the only explanation I can come up with as I have listened to Ziglars tapes along with Robbins and Dwyer and Chopra and they are full of made up shit esp Chopra as I saw a debate with him and some physicists and did the ever tear him a new one

An elderly friend of the family paid $10,000 or some ludicrous amount when Chopra came to Toronto a few years back.
Needless to say, it didn't help her much. She's still miserable with loads of cash. lol

Chopra does bother me though, can't quite peg the reason, but he is awkward to listen to.
What was this debate? I'd love to see it, I'll do a search but just in case I can't find it, let me know. Thanks.

Is this it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27ZnxgOIqX8

 

[Titalian]

Does it seem there are tons of motivational speakers out there today?

Yes too many, its getting ridiculous. If you know how to speak in public, It seems you can sell any BS. BTW including some of it coming from our politicians !!

 

[TESLAMotors]

Yes too many, its getting ridiculous. If you know how to speak in public, It seems you can sell any BS. BTW including some of it coming from our politicians !!

Some? A lot of it. lol

One of my favorite Ted talks. 1:41 truth.
The meat of the video starts at 4:00

 

[Titalian]

This is probably the last true and honest speech, l ever believed in, if not for the insistence of my Mother, for as a young women she believed in these words,
unconditionally, for herself as well as her Children. She called it honest, motivating, enlightening and constructive. Look at the news media today. Tell me what you truly think. Is transparency really there?

 

[explorerzip]

I've been around a lot of years. I know some kick ass people who get things done and some duds who couldn't do shit with a million dollars and an eternity. I think if u reslly need a motivational speaker than you're not motivated and no one can ever get u motivated. Now.... A coach on the other hand who can show u the mechanics of a certain business or industry is worth his weight in gold. I always listen to a good coach or someone with experience and success. But fuck...... If u need someone to motivate you.....you're fucked.

If you find a coach that specializes in a specific industry and worked in it, then he or she would be worth their weight in gold. Sadly, coaches tend to be generalists (at least the ones I've come across) and a lot of them these days tend to be NLP practitioners.

 

[explorerzip]

Yes too many, its getting ridiculous. If you know how to speak in public, It seems you can sell any BS. BTW including some of it coming from our politicians !!

Nothing new here. The whole of human history has been littered with great leaders that could speak extremely well in public and get people to believe or do unspeakable things.

 

[explorerzip]

You know what, I am totally against all self-help gurus, coaching and bloated Ted talks as many have said.

Having said that, a poster above mentioned Zig Ziglar. At one time I was interning at an organization during university where I had to answer the phones on occasion. The organization, which was small, hired Zig Ziglar to motivate them. One night I was stuck answering the phones and Zig called through.

What I remember was that even though I was only the "phone guy", when I mentioned my name during my greeting, he stopped, said "How are you today ******", and actually took about 3-4 minutes to talk with me before he asked for the VP with whom he wished to speak. At no time did he mention his own name or try to talk about anything other than me. After a few minutes he said "I'd like to speak with Mr. xxxxxxx. It's Zig Ziglar."

I had little idea who he was at the time, except his very odd name. I remember the conversation not so much because of who he was but because out of all the calls I have ever answered as a "receptionist" (and if you are going to work your way up in an office environment, chances are you will wind up doing this at some point in your life), he just chatted with me, and focused on me. A truly memorable experience! It actually gives me pause for thought to reconsider what some of these gurus say about living life if I remember a simple phone call almost 20 years later.

Zig Ziglar is teaching the same stuff Dale Carnegie did in How to Win Friends and Influence People: make people feel important by showing interest. I'm sure Dale Carnegie was a considered a snake oil salesman in those days too.

 

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Best motivation speakers can be found on terb, cause each time I think I am fucked up out to lunch I read some of your posts and realize that I'm not that bad, thus I keep checking this place almost daily for a nice reality reboot

I stopped listening to motivation speakers, many of them are just trying g to manipulate you and convenience you of their truth and lead you further from your own. Motivation speakers speak on success that has already happened, however the same principles will not apply because of the dynamic of the ever constant change and now that many people are following the advice. Key it to always try and think different and keep changing and integrating your self and style.

 

[Titalian]

Zig Ziglar is teaching the same stuff Dale Carnegie did in How to Win Friends and Influence People: make people feel important by showing interest. I'm sure Dale Carnegie was a considered a snake oil salesman in those days too.

I don't really mind Zig Zigler, What worries me is these maniacs !! And let us no forget what the recent words were from an Ex President. Your either with us or against us. Sound familiar to you?