http://investmentwatchblog.com/pres...climate-change-nobel-prize-winning-scientist/
Finally...a voice of reason.
Finally...a voice of reason.
President Is Dead Wrong About Climate Change: Nobel Prize Winning Scientist
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I would wager he knows a thing or two about sound research methodology as well is being pretty good at interpreting data...Worth noting that his Nobel was for physics research on quantum tunneling in 1973.
Because one Nobel prize winning scientist says otherwise, it must be true?I would wager he knows a thing or two about sound research methodology as well is being pretty good at interpreting data...
Some background on the fellow perhaps.
http://m.snopes.com/2015/07/08/nobel-ivar-giaever-obama-climate-change/
"I am not really terribly interested in global warming. Like most physicists I don’t think much about it.
But in 2008 I was in a panel here about global warming and I had to learn something about it. And I spent a day or so — half a day maybe on Google, and I was horrified by what I learned.
And I’m going to try to explain to you why that was the case."
While Giaever is certainly a highly accomplished physicist, that does not automatically make him a climate expert as well.
As Giaever himself has admitted, he has spent very little time researching the subject, and it shows.
He simply bounces from one climate myth to the next, demonstrating a lack of understanding of Climate Science 101, and then insults the entire scientific field by comparing it to a religion.
Giaever has used his position of scientific authority as a Nobel Laureate to misinform people about a subject on which he has not even done the most basic research.
That is not how a good scientist should behave, and that is why Giaever has rightfully and deservedly been criticized.
Koch brothers as well.I wonder what the oil companies are paying him for this.
However, he is a member of the conservative think tank The Heartland Institute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute
http://polluterwatch.org/blog/dear-greenpeace-5-lies-heartland-institute
Al Gore is a douchebag for cashing in on the whole thing, total douchebag no doubt about it.
But when a scientist claims he thinks it's all a religion and didn't know a single thing about it all only a few years ago? Hmmmm.
But when a scientist claims he thinks it's all a religion and didn't know a single thing about it all only a few years ago? Hmmmm.
About the same the "green" leeches are paying their mouthpieces.I wonder what the oil companies are paying him for this.
Both sides are definitely about green on this issue.About the same the "green" leeches are paying their mouthpieces.
Over 40 years ago - highly unlikely he is actively contributing now but it is not a bad idea to sell his Nobel credibility as a carte blanche genius in unrelated fields. I can't wait for his latest recommendations of brain surgery techniques.Worth noting that his Nobel was for physics research on quantum tunneling in 1973.
You would think a lot of money because of the overwhelming number of scientists supporting global warming but apparently big oil has the billions more in revenue than the green leeches whose source of income I haven't quite pinpointed.About the same the "green" leeches are paying their mouthpieces.
Over 40 years ago - highly unlikely he is actively contributing now but it is not a bad idea to sell his Nobel credibility as a carte blanche genius in unrelated fields. I can't wait for his latest recommendations of brain surgery techniques.
You would think a lot of money because of the overwhelming number of scientists supporting global warming but apparently big oil has the billions more in revenue than the green leeches whose source of income I haven't quite pinpointed.
Both excellent and very valid points.
Various gov't grants is where the money comes from. The private sector expects results. Gov'ts don't.Over 40 years ago - highly unlikely he is actively contributing now but it is not a bad idea to sell his Nobel credibility as a carte blanche genius in unrelated fields. I can't wait for his latest recommendations of brain surgery techniques.
You would think a lot of money because of the overwhelming number of scientists supporting global warming but apparently big oil has the billions more in revenue than the green leeches whose source of income I haven't quite pinpointed.
LOL! There's a "green" energy revolution happening in the developed world. Expensive sources of energy(solar, wind) are being added to the grid in the face of market forces. All of it is driven by tax dollars. The 'big oil" can only dream about having the resources of the western governments. There's so much tax revenue in the system, it's beyond belief. It has to be seen to appreciate the sheer scale of this fool's errand. The "big oil" is a great bogey man, all the while we're being fucked right up the ass by the direct and indirect subsidies being thrown at the "green" economy. This is a gigantic scandal that has not matured. Yet. But, it's coming...Over 40 years ago - highly unlikely he is actively contributing now but it is not a bad idea to sell his Nobel credibility as a carte blanche genius in unrelated fields. I can't wait for his latest recommendations of brain surgery techniques.
You would think a lot of money because of the overwhelming number of scientists supporting global warming but apparently big oil has the billions more in revenue than the green leeches whose source of income I haven't quite pinpointed.
Climate Change: The Facts
http://www.amazon.ca/Climate-Change...7080&sr=8-1&keywords=climate+change+the+facts
If after reading this you still believe that man made climate change is a threat to our existence then there really is no hope for you.
Alternatively sit through this youtube video. You may not agree with everything he says. But at the very least you will be amused and will gain some knowledge about modern thought. Truly insightful, I've actually watched it twice. And I'm going to order his book next
http://www.amazon.ca/Climate-Change...7080&sr=8-1&keywords=climate+change+the+facts
If after reading this you still believe that man made climate change is a threat to our existence then there really is no hope for you.
Alternatively sit through this youtube video. You may not agree with everything he says. But at the very least you will be amused and will gain some knowledge about modern thought. Truly insightful, I've actually watched it twice. And I'm going to order his book next
What research? He says he googled for a few hours.He obviously doesn't agree with global warming and isn't a disciple of the Al Gore philosophy of screwing the little guys out of their money therefore his views, his research must be ignored Got it!
Since we were talking about profit and funding motives, it seems that Ball and his organizations are at least partly funded by the oil industry.Climate Change: The Facts
http://www.amazon.ca/Climate-Change...7080&sr=8-1&keywords=climate+change+the+facts
If after reading this you still believe that man made climate change is a threat to our existence then there really is no hope for you.
Alternatively sit through this youtube video. You may not agree with everything he says. But at the very least you will be amused and will gain some knowledge about modern thought. Truly insightful, I've actually watched it twice. And I'm going to order his book next
For the love of God when are the pro AGW crowd going to stop using the red herring of the BIG OIL BOGEYMAN. Not only is it wrong it is highly hypocritical. Can we look at the facts for once. Here are a fewSince we were talking about profit and funding motives, it seems that Ball and his organizations are at least partly funded by the oil industry.
1. Since 1850 there has been about 0.8 degrees celsius of surface warming in areas that had temperature measurement data read North America and Europe. How much of the Earth does that comprise...maybe 20%?
2. For the majority of this Earth's existence it has been warmer than now and atmospheric carbon levels were on average 3 times what they are currently.
3. Since 1998 the surface temperature of the Earth as well as the surface of the oceans have not seen any warming whatsoever despite carbon dioxide emissions rising from 369.5 ppm to over 400 ppm.
4. There is no renewable energy technology available presently (or even remotely on the horizon) that can replace the efficiency and effectiveness of fossil fuels. Not even nuclear or hydro electric power which the greens don't approve of anyway.
5. Green energy policies of the 1st world are needlessly killing hundreds of thousands of people globally per year by making basic needs of food and energy unaffordable or inaccessible.
The fossil fuel industry is rolling in cash compared to research money.For the love of God when are the pro AGW crowd going to stop using the red herring of the BIG OIL BOGEYMAN. Not only is it wrong it is highly hypocritical. Can we look at the facts for once. Here are a few
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dark-money-funds-climate-change-denial-effort/
False, its global temperature change, not local.1. Since 1850 there has been about 0.8 degrees celsius of surface warming in areas that had temperature measurement data read North America and Europe. How much of the Earth does that comprise...maybe 20%?
The only times CO2 levels have been higher there have been mass extinctions and dramatically higher oceans. Wishing that on us again is suicide.2. For the majority of this Earth's existence it has been warmer than now and atmospheric carbon levels were on average 3 times what they are currently.
False, 14 of the 15 warmest years have happened this century. 2014 was the warmest year on record and 2015 is on record to break that. The claim that there was a 'pause' has been retracted under better research and modelling.3. Since 1998 the surface temperature of the Earth as well as the surface of the oceans have not seen any warming whatsoever despite carbon dioxide emissions rising from 369.5 ppm to over 400 ppm.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dark-money-funds-climate-change-denial-effort/
Ontario is already running 80% of its energy off of nuclear and hydro. Costa Rica is green. More countries are investing in wind and solar then new fossil fuel plants.4. There is no renewable energy technology available presently (or even remotely on the horizon) that can replace the efficiency and effectiveness of fossil fuels. Not even nuclear or hydro electric power which the greens don't approve of anyway.
Nonsense.5. Green energy policies of the 1st world are needlessly killing hundreds of thousands of people globally per year by making basic needs of food and energy unaffordable or inaccessible.
That's just ridiculous nonsense.
Just click through this to recognize how ridiculous you sound.
Even the anti-vax crowd sound more realistic.
