New stealth fighter is dead meat in an air battle
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Trying to build VTOL capability in a variant of the plane is the most asinine decision in the history of military procurement. It has added cost a reduced capability for the plane that is supposed to deliver the bulk of western Air Power over the next 50 years. All for a niche capability that could have been provided with a revised and updated Harrier. If it cannot defeat an F-16 reliably, then the SU-35 will slaughter it. The avionics on the F-35 are quite amazing though, as a fighter bomber it is still impressive.
WHY..is it that these guys(engineers)think that building a better(more exspensive) mouse trap is always better??
take your work horse fighter jet and just mass produce it.
what was the problem(s) with the 117A Stealth?
Who Dog Fights anymore?
Wouldnt it be cheaper to improve the S.A.M capabilities and take them out BEFORE they get in range?
surely to fuck it would be cheaper!
a Trillion dollars?!!
take your work horse fighter jet and just mass produce it.
what was the problem(s) with the 117A Stealth?
Who Dog Fights anymore?
Wouldnt it be cheaper to improve the S.A.M capabilities and take them out BEFORE they get in range?
surely to fuck it would be cheaper!
a Trillion dollars?!!
AAM (air to air missiles) are always getting better. Also with helmet mounted sights, manuvering is less important. The F-35 is more of a bomb truck then a fighter.
<tick tock> Awaiting press release from Harper Government reassuring "our Allies" that nothing has changed and Canada is re-committing to buying this over-engineered exercise in technical masturbation that is grossly unsuited to Canada's mission.
The agility of F-35 is flawed. No view from the rear of F-35, helmet to big and cockpit to small. Wtf. A trillion dollars for what.
The view to the rear is not there but the avionics on this plane are really quite amazing. The sensor suite gives the pilot full visual awareness via the helmet. He can even see what is under his feet if he looks down. It remains to be seen if agility is really that big a deal. One amazing thing is it can carry 10 tons of bombs. That is impressive. For Canada's needs I would prefer we get the SAAB Gripen as we could get more and it would be much cheaper to operate. But the chances of that happening are pretty much zero.
No agility, lots of avionics, heavy bomb load. Sounds like a bomber. What range does it have?
Methink a stealth bomber could have been built for a lot less.(but I really have no idea)
It's a clusterfuck designed by committee. It's not intended for dogfighting. It's a stealth fighter; engaging beyond visual range and shooting its wad before the bad guys even know they're in the air.
I still don't understand the desire to cater to the Marine's demands when they will only buy a handful of them.
I still don't understand the desire to cater to the Marine's demands when they will only buy a handful of them.
Any contract from Europe would be a slap in the face to the Americans. We should be making our own fighter jets aka Arrow.
Canada does not need any advanced fighter jets. Buy a fleet of the new Bombardier C series airplanes.
When was the last time another country sent up fighters against the USA or USN? These are multi-role aircraft designed to operate as part of a system for ordnance delivery and ground troop support.
