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eguapo

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They should have sent Cecil packing as well, this guys pitched like shit lately.
Cecil has no options left. No way AA would expose his best holdover from the turrible (Charles Barkleyspeak) 2014 bullpen to the waiver wire.
 

Nad Smith

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Tepera is a strike thrower....not the best guy to bring in with men in scoring position...I kind of liked him. Coke wasnt given much of a chance....who starts Friday? Sanchez? Schultz?

I want my Papelbon...or Rodriguez...and not bad thinking get a front line starter and close with Sanchez......but do something...

I still predict the orioles are going to take the lead in the division and win it...but we had a chance for a sweep.....and got beat by a better team 2 of 3

Carrera - underrated and overlooked has done very well....Schultz did well today.....too bad the ninth inning counts
 

Nad Smith

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Cecil was an effective non closer reliever....getting lefties out. Mitch Williams was a great closer for the Phils. He ran out of gas at the end and just couldnt flame throw like he used to.
 

Perry Mason

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Cecil should be moved out of the pen and into the concession stands.
He would probably be good at pitching bags of peanuts... you don't need to pitch strikes, it's like horseshoes: close is good enough!

Perry
 

Dawgger

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Thinking that trade for another pitcher is a lot closer after this series.......



Looks like there are currently 3 teams that are sellers, Phils Brewers and A's. All have pieces that the Jays can use and with 3 teams to deal with someone might be affordable.
 

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Encarnacion has now grounded into 10 double plays in 2015.
Thats in top 10 of the American league
Jim Rice was notorious for leading the league in GIDP. He sucked too.
Meanigless comment-too many factors involved. Could mean he hits the ball hard instead of striking out. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
 

AK-47

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Bottom line is Encarnacion's clutch hitting has sucked last 2 months or so. He also IIRC hasnt hit any homers last 2 months either (too lazy to google that one).

That means he's either in a slump which he'll hopefully break out of, or he's starting to go downhill. If its the latter maybe now is a good time to use EE as tradebait, even if that means as part of a trade package with some minor leaguers for Papelbon
 

gcostanza

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Bottom line is Encarnacion's clutch hitting has sucked last 2 months or so. He also IIRC hasnt hit any homers last 2 months either (too lazy to google that one).
Bottom line:

Clutch hitting exists. Every major league player is capable of it. Clutch hitters exist? Not so much.

Edwin Encarnacion has hit 11 home runs, with 36 RBI in the last 2 months.
 

AK-47

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Bottom line:

Clutch hitting exists. Every major league player is capable of it. Clutch hitters exist? Not so much.

Edwin Encarnacion has hit 11 home runs, with 36 RBI in the last 2 months.
Not true. EE hit almost all his homeruns and majority if his RBI's in first 5 to 6 weeks of the season, he hasnt hit much for most of May and June.

FACT: he's in a slump. Especially when it comes to homeruns and getting hits in clutch situations when the game is on the line

And LOL at saying clutch-hitters doesnt exist :biggrin1:
 

yogi1

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Not true. EE hit almost all his homeruns and majority if his RBI's in first 5 to 6 weeks of the season, he hasnt hit much for most of May and June.

FACT: he's in a slump. Especially when it comes to homeruns and getting hits in clutch situations when the game is on the line

And LOL at saying clutch-hitting doesnt exist :biggrin1:
I think is shoulder is worse than we are being told!
 

IM469

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Cecil should be moved out of the pen and into the concession stands.
Watching Cecil end our chances of a new record breaking winning streak and I feel sick watching continuous dismal performances that even the hottest hitting team in baseball can't overcome.

The big difference between the '92 World Series Blue Jay winners and this team are the closers. If the Jays entered the 8th inning with a one run lead - they had the game. Ward / Henke combo was terrifying to the opposition. As long as Cecil is the designated closer - even a 4 run lead can look small as the opposing team begins their 9th inning BP.
 

AK-47

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^^^^^^^ Totally agree
 

gcostanza

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Not true. EE hit almost all his homeruns and majority if his RBI's in first 5 to 6 weeks of the season, he hasnt hit much for most of May and June.

FACT: he's in a slump. Especially when it comes to homeruns and getting hits in clutch situations when the game is on the line

And LOL at saying clutch-hitters doesnt exist :biggrin1:
What is it, AK, he has hit zero home runs in the past two months or he hit almost (not all now, but almost) all of his home runs in the 1st 5-6 weeks of the season?
The 1st six weeks of the season, by the way, takes us from April 6 to May 18, rather than the last two months which takes us back to April 21st.

There's a tremendous amount of overlap in your above comments.


Since May 18, E.E. has hit HR's at a rate of .16/game (26/162), prior to that date, he was hitting HR's at a rate of .225/game (36/162).
A drop off, to be sure, but let us remember he has been playing with a shoulder sore enough to require a cortisone injection (June 6).

Prove clutch hitters exist. For that matter, what is a clutch hit?

When serious thought is put into the concept of clutch hitting/hitters, how do you measure such a thing?

Considering that having a lead makes things easier as far as game management and the higher percentage of wins for teams that score 1st, wouldn't the key time for "clutch hits" be early in the game?
You can't hit a 3 run HR without runners so a lead off single in the 2nd inning is a clutch hit.
 

AK-47

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Costanza, I'm glad you can finally admit there's been a dropoff. Question now becomes is it because of his bum shoulder, or because he's aging.

Either way he's tradebait IMO. Someone else brought up the point Phils wont trade Papelbon for EE straight up which is true, but a package deal sounds mighty enticing
 
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