200th Anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo

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Andrew Jackson was fighting the Spanish in FL to try and kick them out.
Florida, Texas and California came this close to being part of Mexico. The locals really lucked out when they became part of the U.S. although Texas wanted out in 1860 but President Lincoln sent in the shock troops to convince the Texans that succession was a bad idea.

BTW: Nathan Rothchild made a fortune from the Battle of Waterloo.
 

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Florida, Texas and California came this close to being part of Mexico. The locals really lucked out when they became part of the U.S. although Texas wanted out in 1860 but President Lincoln sent in the shock troops to convince the Texans that succession was a bad idea.

BTW: Nathan Rothchild made a fortune from the Battle of Waterloo.
California was part of Mexico until 1849. Texas was part of Mexico until 1838(?). Florida was a Spanish possession until the late 18-teens or early 20's, IIRC. (Mexico didn't obtain its independence from Spain until the 1820's).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican–American_War
 

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Florida, Texas and California came this close to being part of Mexico. The locals really lucked out when they became part of the U.S. although Texas wanted out in 1860 but President Lincoln sent in the shock troops to convince the Texans that succession was a bad
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Some Texans are still anticipating shock troops...
The irony ermerging from the photo that started the string is that it appears Napolean's descendant is the tall one.
 

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One of the most jarring sights I've ever seen: going to a hotel dining room in Romania for breakfast & seeing a mural covering an entire wall showing Napoleon, something you'd never see growing up in a British-founded country like Canada.
 

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One of the most jarring sights I've ever seen: going to a hotel dining room in Romania for breakfast & seeing a mural covering an entire wall showing Napoleon, something you'd never see growing up in a British-founded country like Canada.
Napoleon has a big rep in Central Europe. People saw him as a liberator.
 

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The war was fought in a number of disconnected campaigns, hundreds of miles apart. We held Lake Ontario and Central Ontario. We burned Washington, but got beaten at Baltimore and New Orleans. And crucially, we lost the Battle of Lake Erie to Commodore Perry. This meant we had to evacuate Indiana and Northern Ohio and Western Ontario. As the Americans held Lake Erie, they could isolate and destroy any British and Canadian units who were left West of Brantford. And that pretty much did it for an Indian state in the Midwest - which would not have lasted for more than 10 or 15 years anyway. There were a lot of Americans and they really, really wanted that land.

Even if we had "won" the War of 1812, the US would still be a super power today. Britain basically wanted to beat Napoleon and defend Canada. It didn't have any real strategic interest in the land south of the great lakes. The borders would probably have ended up exactly as they were in any event.


I wonder if the Indians could of held land if we had given them the land we promised, they would have needed our protection and how long would that have lasted

We never defeated America because of some bad leadership in a couple of crucial battles

The battle of new Orleans occurred after the treaty of Ghent but no one knew the war was over, so it does not count as a loss

If I was a foot soldier for the British I would have wanted to be posted in Kingston

The fort was so strong the Americans considered attack futile and it was never attacked

The fort at Niagara is reconstructed as the original was burned down along with the town

only the churches were not burned and they stand today
 
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I wonder if the Indians could of held land if we had given them the land we promised, they would have needed our protection and how long would that have lasted

We never defeated America because of some bad leadership in a couple of crucial battles

The battle of new Orleans occurred after the treaty of Ghent but no one knew the war was over, so it does not count as a loss
There was likely many battles going on for months in both Canada and US before the word finally reached the camps,outposts,forts on both sides.
 

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There was likely many battles going on for months in both Canada and US before the word finally reached the camps,outposts,forts on both sides.
Weirdly, the British and Canadians were about to mount an expedition along the upper Mississipi south to capture St Louis when the war ended!
 

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Presumably you mean Fort Eire. Certainly not the "French Castle" at Fort Niagara in Youngstown, New York which dates to 1726.
it is now called NIAGARA ON THE LAKE

BACK THEN IT WAS CALLED NEWARK AND WAS OUR CAPITOL
 

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We are missing another important milestone, it's the 1500th anniversary of the martyrdom of St Curazz. He brought Christianity into the land of the Huns, but his method of baptism was unorthodox.

It didn't end well.
 

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it is now called NIAGARA ON THE LAKE

BACK THEN IT WAS CALLED NEWARK AND WAS OUR CAPITOL
Ah, is that what you were going for. Fort George is in Niagara-on-the-Lake, which was originally Newark. Fort Niagara (which was site of the French fortifications) is on the U.S. side just a smidgen downstream in Youngstown, New York.

Fort Eire (at the opposite end of the Niagara River) was also destroyed during the War of 1812.
 

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I think York was already the capital by 1812, although Niagara on the Lake was indeed called Newark.
 
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