Tricked?

[daddyj]

So there's a new documentary (well new to me because I just discovered it) called Tricked, on Netflix. It explores the world of escorting and brings a very negative light to hobbying. I always figured hobbying was a victimless crime...girls are empowered to do what they want with their bodies and make some money for something they have fun doing. No harm, no foul, right?

Well, this documentary explores the manipulative world of human slavery (for lack of a better term) and pimping. These pimps (slave masters) look for weak girls that they can expose and then force them into this world against their will. Many of these girls live on backpage, according to the documentary.

It kills me to think that there are women, sisters, daughters, mothers out there that are forced into sex-slavery and feel they have no way of getting out.

Today I was feeling the itch, looked at backpages, drove by a couple MPs I know of but couldn't bring myself to take the plunge out of fear that the girl on the other side isn't doing this because she wants to.

There's a quote in the movie that goes something like this "killing someone's soul is no different than physical murder, and that's what is happening to these girls". I can't get that out of my mind.

I'm curious to hear the point of view form others on this forum that have seen the film, and most interested in hearing from some of the SPs here. Is this an accurate portrayal of much of the SP industry? How does one be sure to hobby only with those that are doing this for the right reasons (ie their own will)?

 

[Chloë.]

It is accurate to a certain extent.

Younger females who are advertised have a greater likelihood of being trafficked.

I'm not speaking statistically, just in my own opinion.

The domestic pimp thing is quite accurate though. I have met a few females who had pimps and even the pimps themselves.

The dynamic was one that was hard to wrap my mind around. Only two finally left, but that was after a whole bunch of drama and it wasn't exactly pretty.

They treated the girls with respect when life was good. What I would see was that when money wasn't made, there was an emphasis to make the next night better, not to worry about it, but the stress level on some of these females was quite shocking. Some of these guys called themselves money managers. The girls actually believed it. They weren't lacking in mental capacity but they had been conditioned to such a degree that they felt they needed the guy to support them, even when they were bringing in 2-3K per night...

I don't condone that behaviour but the documentary definitely reconfirmed what I've witnessed and seen personally.

 

[frankcastle]

That doc made me think twice about backpage

I prefer massage parlours the girls need a licence and bylaw people and cops do come to check on them periodically.

I was there once when the cops not bylaw showed up.

They walked right into my room but i was not doing anything. They didn't even talk to me.

They wanted to see licenced and asked the girls if they were there of their own free will.

This is by no means perfect. But that's how i justify it.

 

[Aardvark154]

Again this show the stupidity of attempting to outlaw what cannot be eliminated, and instead merely driving it underground where pond scum thrive.

 

[Titalian]

It is accurate to a certain extent.

Younger females who are advertised have a greater likelihood of being trafficked.

I'm not speaking statistically, just in my own opinion.

The domestic pimp thing is quite accurate though. I have met a few females who had pimps and even the pimps themselves.

The dynamic was one that was hard to wrap my mind around. Only two finally left, but that was after a whole bunch of drama and it wasn't exactly pretty.

They treated the girls with respect when life was good. What I would see was that when money wasn't made, there was an emphasis to make the next night better, not to worry about it, but the stress level on some of these females was quite shocking. Some of these guys called themselves money managers. The girls actually believed it. They weren't lacking in mental capacity but they had been conditioned to such a degree that they felt they needed the guy to support them, even when they were bringing in 2-3K per night...

I don't condone that behaviour but the documentary definitely reconfirmed what I've witnessed and seen personally.

Very good Chloe and true, but I have to wonder from a females perspective. What is the attraction to these lazy good for nothing males who live off the avails. Other than these women being very young and naive.
The only answer I have is, thank god I'm good father to my young one and trying to show her the right of way. I believe many young women today have no one else to turn to than these profiteering parasites. Jmts

 

[trtinajax]

There's a theory that girls are attracted to the bad boys and don't give a second glance at the good respectable guys. I've witnessed it myself, a decent guy with a good job, good income that treated the woman with respect got dumped for the sleaze bag that couldn't hold a job, treated her like dirt, took her pay cheque and was totally unfaithful to her. She lapped him up. Pimps and traffickers, you can't get ant more bad boy than that.

 

[SkyRider]

There's a theory that girls are attracted to the bad boys and don't give a second glance at the good respectable guys. I've witnessed it myself, a decent guy with a good job, good income that treated the woman with respect got dumped for the sleaze bag that couldn't hold a job, treated her like dirt, took her pay cheque and was totally unfaithful to her. She lapped him up. Pimps and traffickers, you can't get ant more bad boy than that.

I doubt anyone on this board or in the world fully understand the female pysce. I still don't understand how that woman whore herself and gave the money to Michael Rafferty and then helped kidnapped that young girl for that's bastard demented enjoyment.

 

[GPIDEAL]

That doc made me think twice about backpage

I prefer massage parlours the girls need a licence and bylaw people and cops do come to check on them periodically.

I was there once when the cops not bylaw showed up.

They walked right into my room but i was not doing anything. They didn't even talk to me.

They wanted to see licenced and asked the girls if they were there of their own free will.

This is by no means perfect. But that's how i justify it.

Hey, I've had real dates who were with me in my parked car asked by cops if they were there of their own free will.

With respect to this thread's main topic though, one never knows (regular indies excepted I suppose) when seeing someone (if they are trafficked or desperate). So that's another reason to treat all ladies with dignity and generosity.

 

[shogun89]

Modern slavery. Hollywood would never touch this subject with a 10 foot pole as it does not instill further white guilt. Instead they pump out 10 movies a year about only 1 type of slavery out of historically 1000's that happened hundreds of years ago.

 

[GPIDEAL]

There's a theory that girls are attracted to the bad boys and don't give a second glance at the good respectable guys. I've witnessed it myself, a decent guy with a good job, good income that treated the woman with respect got dumped for the sleaze bag that couldn't hold a job, treated her like dirt, took her pay cheque and was totally unfaithful to her. She lapped him up. Pimps and traffickers, you can't get ant more bad boy than that.

I came up with a couple of answers to your question as to why they are attracted to bad boys (after being a hobbyist for quite some time, and knowing dancers, MPAs and even escorts).

The attraction to bad boys could be that they are less judgmental about such ladies' line of work. 'Decent guys' might make for good clients, but they either can't or won't get serious as in a LTR.

The other thing is that the ladies might find a 'decent guy' boring.

I find this is more prevalent with the younger ladies. As they mature, their outlook changes. I know of dancers who've dumped, or were dumped by, abusive and/or jealous bad boys, after maturing.

 

[Titalian]

There's a theory that girls are attracted to the bad boys and don't give a second glance at the good respectable guys. I've witnessed it myself, a decent guy with a good job, good income that treated the woman with respect got dumped for the sleaze bag that couldn't hold a job, treated her like dirt, took her pay cheque and was totally unfaithful to her. She lapped him up. Pimps and traffickers, you can't get ant more bad boy than that.

Hey I was a bad boy in a suit no less, when I was younger. And when your young and that age, it does work with young females.
But when you produce a child with someone you luv. Your whole perspective as a bad boy changes.

 

[freestuff]

I always figured hobbying was a victimless crime...girls are empowered to do what they want with their bodies and make some money for something they have fun doing. No harm, no foul, right?

That is pretty naïve.

 

[surferboy]

A sp that I got to know very well over a year or so was pimped. Didn't suspect anything until we went for dinner before her saying she was moving back home out of province. She was a sweet hard working girl with not a mean bone in her body, came here from a small town in search of a new life. This is the type these scums bags prey on. They befriend them,put them up in a place to stay & if there a good earner buy them some material things & show them how good they have it now. It ruined my dinner all I could think about was smashing this piece of shits face in. She was a very strong minded girl, & it still happened so I can just imagine how easy it would be on weaker prey. I would say I'm pretty street smart & could spot something like this.But you just never know. Does have a happy ending though,she found a job she loves & is very happy.

 

[frankcastle]

Watching docs like tricked you will see how women get sucked into it.

In some cases these guys start out acting like a boyfriend before turning things upside down.

Pretty fucked up.

 

[Purlieu]

A sp that I got to know very well over a year or so was pimped. Didn't suspect anything until we went for dinner before her saying she was moving back home out of province. She was a sweet hard working girl with not a mean bone in her body, came here from a small town in search of a new life. This is the type these scums bags prey on. They befriend them,put them up in a place to stay & if there a good earner buy them some material things & show them how good they have it now. It ruined my dinner all I could think about was smashing this piece of shits face in. She was a very strong minded girl, & it still happened so I can just imagine how easy it would be on weaker prey. I would say I'm pretty street smart & could spot something like this.But you just never know. Does have a happy ending though,she found a job she loves & is very happy.

I think this is another form of Domination and Submission in a way that the first post saying that they have a slave and master relationship. These ladies are meant to believe that these guys love and care for them. And I guess being so young, they think that these guys "holding onto their money" are so great because they'll buy them gifts and take them to get their hair done or their nails done or whatever, but they don't realize they're doing it with their own money.

 

[Chloë.]

I think this is another form of Domination and Submission in a way that the first post saying that they have a slave and master relationship. These ladies are meant to believe that these guys love and care for them. And I guess being so young, they think that these guys "holding onto their money" are so great because they'll buy them gifts and take them to get their hair done or their nails done or whatever, but they don't realize they're doing it with their own money.

Dom and Sub relationships have a completely different dynamic than a pimped female.

Contrary to most beliefs, the submissive technically has all the power. There are safe words and a true Dom would never push a submissive past a hard limit.

Relating the two is a huge misconception. Master and slave relationship for a Dom/sub? Sure. But remember the Dom actually cares deeply about his submissive.

At the end of the day, a pimp couldn't care less. It's money over everything. Hard limits are irrelevant.

 

[spraggamuffin]

Unfortunately true. Sometimes you just block it out of your mind as these women are strangers to you.

The low self esteemed and weak minded for money, sexually abused etc are more vulnerable than we know.

Pimps and predators including husbands don't take long to spot these women.

Only when it hits close to home you really feel it.

I fell in love with someone like this. Low self esteemed and running after guys spreading her legs for money and material things to the point of sexual wrecklessness and unprotected sex. Husband is aware and plays the role of pimp and a divorce is also in the works.

She is not on backpage but I know , even if she weren't married, beause this lifestyle is ingrained in her, I'd never be able to trust her to not continue down this road, or have a reasonably safe relationship with her. She is beyond repair, damaged mentally, physically, spiritually etc.

I still do love her, but understand it has to be unconditional and from a safe distance as I risk going down the drain with her.

I have pretty much stopped hobbying although I still visit here.

I do feel like a hypocrit for "taking advantage" of the women in the past, who may not have been the willing participants I liked to believe.

Pimps used to rely only on threats, getting her addicted to drugs and violence against the victim and her family.

I know many on here are not spiritual or believe in a divine presence, but they now also use spiritual means like black magic etc to control the girls. A seemingly more humane and undetectable method by most.

 

[SkyRider]

When young girls are asked what they want to be when they grow up, they almost never say escort or hamburger flipper. Instead they say doctor, lawyer, nurse, scientist, teacher, Jihadist bride, suicide bomber, etc.

 

[thirdcup]

Pimped girls who can leave but don't. Punching bags aka battered women.

This is why I utterly refuse to care and harden my heart towards them. I will not expend any empathy for someone who would stick around with an abusive shit and would spit on or laugh at a guy like myself. Fuck em.

There is such a thing as learned helplessness. Learned helplessness happens when people or animals become conditioned to believed that a situation is unchangeable or inescapable.

Don't judge these people too harshly. If they could be un-brainwashed, I'm sure most of them would leave in a second.

No doublt you've heard of the Stockholm Syndrome, when hostages side with their captors. Why does this happen? Because these people have been broken down so much that they think their best or only option is to stick around.

 

[frankcastle]

I am seeing some people blaming the woman but the reality is that these guys carefully select women they can work over.

If you have ever been exploited, conned or taken advantage of usually hind sight is 20 20 but when you are in it it is tough to see because you are being played.