Pretty much why I and probably others don't agree with much of what you say is pretty simple. Much of what is said on your part is obviously biased due to your business interests. It further, rarely has much logical or factual basis. Every point I make is either quite logically inclined and I do put reference sources to back up what I say. Almost all your rebuttals rely on your "inside and first hand knowledge" which doesn't exactly sound compelling. Your arguments are almost like saying "I'm right because I know better than you".
It doesn't exactly take a legal genius to figure out that an injunction against a bylaw is automatically granted by a court for merely filing the paperwork for a bylaw challenge. If that were true, holistic spas would just file the paperwork saying they should be allowed to open until whenever and be nude; they could start doing this tomorrow once they file the paperwork as the law would be "stayed"? Does this make any sense to you? Everyone would be doing this for every Toronto bylaw they found inconvenient. You can preach your inside knowledge all you want, it just doesn't fly both logically and legally. It's probably that the City is continuing to enforce as it is their power to do so - but they are halting the licensing tribunals and staying the bylaw charges until the conclusion of the court challenge. That is completely different than insinuating there is some kind of legal injunction preventing them for enforcing or that the bylaw is off the books.
And if your lawyers are telling you that they think you actually have a great chance of winning then I would suggest they aren't exactly being most truthful with you. With the precedent set at the highest court of the province, it's going to be hard enough to even establish a prima facie case.
I expect that to be your interpretation. However logic should supersede your weak arguments. If there is a court case, would it really be smart of me to discuss the particulars of said case? Or keep my mouth shut similar to how the press can't post certain details? Think things through a bit honey.**
You can discredit me all you'd like, but when bylaw visit my spa, guess who talks to the officers? Me. Not you. Do you know which spas & what tickets get laid or dropped or stayed? I do. I also know that it changes. Often. And guess what, I get informed of said changes.**
As for the past cases fighting Toronto closing hrs, there were a lot of extreme & rare circumstances in the original battle. Errors, mistakes, and lawyer drama. Hardly a precedent. Your example of Vaughan is a good one; completely different city, but a good example none the less. You want past cases of success? Well, read your link. Lol. Read about Brampton as well.**
You're crazy to think a holistic owner who spends a few hundred bucks annually would fight a bylaw. Do u know how much that costs? If they lose, they get shut down. They become focus #1 for enforcement. And their hush-hush misuse of licensing would become the spotlight. How do I know? I worked in holistic spas my entire career. 8yrs to be exact.**
When I post on terb, I'm on my cell. I don't have time to search out links for you that you can easily google yourself. If I could, I'd invite you to join the BRP owners meetings with the city so you could know "the inside scoop" too. But that would cost you what every other owner has invested to get such privy info (have $200,000-$800,000 lying around?). To simply say my real-time knowledge has no basis makes zero sense. You mis-quote things, use the wrong cities as examples, and have a general tone of dislike in your responses to me. It's laughable & highlights the fact that you get disgruntled. You shouldn't take a political debate so personally honey.**
So, you want to know what's "stayed" & what isnt...call ML&S and ask them. It's a free country. Do the legwork to back up your argument. I have. And you throw stones. You quote the media & act like it's checkmate hahaha. Remember sweetie, not everything you read is true. But what you live, breathe, and see with your own eyes is real. Spend a day in my shoes before you go throwing stones.**
I know for a fact what is happening in regards to closing hrs & enforcement of such. I know for a fact which officers have what moral discretion. I know which areas focus on which infractions. And I get called when someone moves around. I pay the lawyer bills & read the reports after a ticket is argued/dropped/charged. I meet with bylaw & police weekly. I speak to them several times/week. Not even your little links know what I know.**
I've never denied I have a bias. But that bias goes several ways. Bias for vested interest. Bias for protection of our clientele. Bias for inside information. And bias thru 15yrs of practical, not just theory.**
What's your story? I'm an open book. U just throw mud. The playground is outside honey. Let the adults discuss here. **