John Tory's pledge to freeze TTC fares an election language?

[boodog]

TTC fares to go up 10¢, Tory announces

TTC fares will increase by 10¢ on March 1, but Mayor John Tory says the hike will help pay for service improvements.

Tory announced the fare hike Monday morning, adding it will help fund a $95-million investment package. That plan, which still must be approved as part of the city budget, would see restoration of many bus lines cut during 2011, free rides for children under 12 years old, and reduced wait times on some of the city's busiest routes.

The 10¢ increase will not apply to cash fares.

The fare increase is an about-face for Tory, who pledged to freeze TTC fares during the election campaign. Tory said once he began to take a look at the books, it became apparent a fare freeze wasn't possible if he wanted to invest in the service.

Tory made the announcement flanked by TTC chairman Josh Colle and agency CEO Andy Byford. Byford called the investment "vindication" for transit planners who released a plan last summer calling for upgrades to the service.

Many of the initiatives in that plan are included in this announcement, he said.​

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/19/mayor-john-tory-makes-major-funding-announcement

 

[destillat]

Sounds like a fair trade-off... a small fare hike in return for new bus lines and reduced wait times.

 

[Anbarandy]

Another promise made, another promise reneged upon.

In addition to his campaign promise of a 'No TTC fare increase', Sir John 'The Story Teller' Tory also poo-pooed Olivia Chow's plans to improve lower order TTC services during the campaign.

Genetically hardwired and then re-wired by Nick Kouvalis, Mr. Tory is a pure political panderer, promising anything to get elected with zero substance buttressing his 'vote4me' pledges.

 

[destillat]

Mr. Tory is a pure political panderer, promising anything to get elected with zero substance buttressing his 'vote4me' pledges.

Except he's getting shit done.

 

[boodog]

"Tory said once he began to take a look at the books, it became apparent a fare freeze wasn't possible if he wanted to invest in the service."

Didn't read the book and didn't ask TTC before pledging, eh Snake-Oil salesman John Tory?

Very seasonal and experienced CEO, isn't he?

 

[Anbarandy]

Except he's getting shit done.

Some of his promises during the campaign were:

1) "NO TTC FARE INCREASE". A promise made a promise not kept.

2) "A free and at no cost" GhostTrack. Utter fantasy and bullshit.

That is in just 1 month in office. Hold onto yer seats, ya'all fiscal conservative wannabes, there is much more tax and spend on his agenda.

 

[destillat]

"Tory said once he began to take a look at the books, it became apparent a fare freeze wasn't possible if he wanted to invest in the service."

Didn't read the book and didn't ask TTC before pledging, eh Snake-Oil salesman John Tory?

Very seasonal and experienced CEO, isn't he?

You're a fucking idiot. Because mayoral candidates have full and open access to 'the books', right?

 

[destillat]

Some of his promises during the campaign were:

1) "NO TTC FARE INCREASE". A promise made a promise not kept.

2) "A free and at no cost" GhostTrack. Utter fantasy and bullshit.

That is in just 1 month in office. Hold onto yer seats, ya'all fiscal conservative wannabes, there is much more tax and spend on his agenda.

Was this the first time you have ever seen an election campaign?
At least he didn't win the Mayor's seat, then race right over to his sister's basement to smoke some crack and snort some blow... he's actually doing what a Mayor is supposed to do, you know, show up and work.

 

[cdnsimon]

I'm curious... how many of the people that complain about the TTC actually use it everyday, or use it as their only means of transportation?

If the debate is behind broken election promises - then get in line. [sarcasm]I don't know of a single politician that breaks promises.[/sarcasm] A promise to a politician is more of a 'I'll give it the old college try'.

 

[explorerzip]

I'm wondering why they didn't do an across the board fare hike including those paying the cash fares? So basically the people paying fares using tickets, tokens and Metropass are part subsidizing those paying cash.

 

[destillat]

I'm wondering why they didn't do an across the board fare hike including those paying the cash fares? So basically the people paying fares using tickets, tokens and Metropass are part subsidizing those paying cash.

It is standard operating procedure for many municipalities to raise the pass fares and the cash fares at different times.

 

[explorerzip]

It is standard operating procedure for many municipalities to raise the pass fares and the cash fares at different times.

Makes sense, but what's the reasoning?

 

[kkelso]

It is standard operating procedure for many municipalities to raise the pass fares and the cash fares at different times.

It raises fares for those with higher incomes first, where the fare hike is least likely to be noticed, and actually impact ridership. It is a form of income redistribution. The same with toll roads in the eastern U.S.

KK

 

[basketcase]

"Tory said once he began to take a look at the books, it became apparent a fare freeze wasn't possible if he wanted to invest in the service."

Didn't read the book and didn't ask TTC before pledging, eh Snake-Oil salesman John Tory?

Very seasonal and experienced CEO, isn't he?

Yeah. How awful for a mayor to promise no tax hikes then raise taxes 3 of his 4 years. Oh wait. Wrong mayor.

Do we really have to put up with 4 years of boo cyberstalking Tory just because his man lost?

 

[destillat]

Makes sense, but what's the reasoning?

I can only think that it has to do with coin denominations.
I know in Mississauga, ticket fares will incrementally go up 5 or 10 cents ($2.50, $2.60, etc.) but cash fares only increase in 25 cent intervals.
I know the machines can accept 5 and 10 cent coins... but this is just a trend I have noticed.

 

[explorerzip]

It raises fares for those with higher incomes first, where the fare hike is least likely to be noticed, and actually impact ridership. It is a form of income redistribution. The same with toll roads in the eastern U.S.

KK

It's simply not possible for the TTC to collect data on which riders are paying cash let alone know who is in a higher income bracket. Lots of people pay cash: tourists, riders that ran out of tokens, tickets or passes, or occasional riders. It doesn't mean that they are earning higher incomes.

 

[explorerzip]

I can only think that it has to do with coin denominations.
I know in Mississauga, ticket fares will incrementally go up 5 or 10 cents ($2.50, $2.60, etc.) but cash fares only increase in 25 cent intervals.
I know the machines can accept 5 and 10 cent coins... but this is just a trend I have noticed.

Now this is logical. I guess the TTC and MiWay don't want to be bothered counting extra nickels and dimes.

 

[Butler1000]

Yeah. How awful for a mayor to promise no tax hikes then raise taxes 3 of his 4 years. Oh wait. Wrong mayor.

Do we really have to put up with 4 years of boo cyberstalking Tory just because his man lost?

Him and Anbarandy both are pissed and I can guarantee won't stop. While both have opposing agendas both can't stand the thought of Tory being effective as it will keep there choices out.

Considering why the hikes are going in I'm willing to give him a pass. As long as the extra service comes to fruition. I'm not sure if I agree with the free for 12 and under but can deal with it.

 

[happ]

They need money for the $750,000 per copy buses.

He looked pathetic today blaming Ford.

A good lesson for the kids life is "free weeee"

 

[Anbarandy]

Him and Anbarandy both are pissed and I can guarantee won't stop. While both have opposing agendas both can't stand the thought of Tory being effective as it will keep there choices out.

Considering why the hikes are going in I'm willing to give him a pass. As long as the extra service comes to fruition. I'm not sure if I agree with the free for 12 and under but can deal with it.

Pissed?

Not in the least. Just stating the facts, the evidence to the bootlickers and lemmings out there who blindly licked and swallowed the utter fantasies promised by their hollow leader during his mayoral campaign of false promises and disingenuous hope and who are now still willing to defend and follow his highness over the fiscal conservative cliff and into the abyss.

A campaign built upon a foundation of 'lies' and vote buying pledges can only lead to disaster in reality.

+$2billion of scarce taxpayer dollars to be wasted and squandered upon the Tory endorsed BDL Gravy Train extension.

A deceptive pledge and utter bald faced lie that his 'baby', GhostTrack' will be absolutely 'free and at no cost' when he knew and knows it will cost $4-$5 billion dollars.

"Read my lips. No new TTC fare increase." Tory must either be the most clueless person in Toronto or just a liar. I'd say both.

"Tax increases below or at the rate of inflation!" For what Tory has pledged and promised, that is utter bullshit.

The evidence was there during the campaign. He is just a more polished version of Rob Ford .... that's it! Is that your standard?

Bought Scarborough with +2billion taxpayer dollars for an utterly unnecessary and useless subway. Bought Torontonians with $4-$5billion worth of transit fantasy with his repeated pledges that it's actually, really and truly 'free and at no cost'. Bought the fiscal nut-jobs and tax-a-phobes with 'efficiencies and other levels of government', whatever the fuck that means. Bought the faux 'social services' quasi-lefties with his 'inclusive Toronto' nonsense on the cheap fantasy.

This is what the gullible, the bootlickers and lemmings voted for.

I say, "deliver m*otherfucker!"

Enough of "The Fords", ''The Harpers", '"The McGuintys'", "The Wynns'" and now 'The Torys'".

84 days 'on the job' and already the campaign lies are being exposed.


Oh yeah, you state the you are willing to pay through the nose for his lies. That is not what Torontonians were promised nor voted for.

Give your heads a collective shake.